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    Just because Bogans had a good game does not make Malik obsolete.. My opinion on Malik hasn't changed one bit. He is just as good as Bogans if not better. He rebounds better then Bogans, he is more athletic then Bogans, and he can get to the rim. Bogans has answered the one question we had about him coming into this season though. He can be out on the court without being an offensive liability.

    Truth be told what I want to happen is Pop lets Malik take Finleys minutes. Atleast as an experimentation. Finley is stopping no one out there on the floor. I could guarantee you that even though Malik is undersized he is still fully capable of staying in front of his man as well as contest the shot as it goes up. Finley plays hard and plays disciplined, but doesn't have the gear to put pressure on opposing players on the defensive end.

    The best defense Finely and Mason play are on themselves. These two scrubs have done nothing this year and yet they continue to get minutes. Malik should have a shot to at the very least earn some minutes. If he fails, then send him back to the bench. If he contributes, then that bodes well for the rest of the team and the rest of the season.

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    i would wave Mason before him. he was very good when he got minutes last year. esp in that game against Denver. showed a lot of heart, toughness and athleticism. he can defend, too. and in preseason he was hitting his threes.

    i see a lot more upside with him than i do Mason.

    I hope Mason isn't pulling an Udoka on us but, he looks like he realizes his time here is short. Mason needs to do more than just shoot the spot-up 3. Even Bonner did a 2 handed dunk the other night.

    It would be nice if Pop could find some floor time for Hairston against OKC.

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    I'd rather see Hairston get minutes now than Mason or Finley. Now is the time early in the year to break him in and see what he can do, what with all the days off and extra practice time that won't be available after the all-star break.

    It would be nice if he could help Bogans bring and really harass people on the perimter, something Finley and Mason can be counted on to never do.

    PHX is doing a lot better now because of Dudley, and when Earl Clark comes around it will be worse. If the Spurs had the perimeter guys bringing it like that it would make life easier on the bigs not having to cover up for the usual Finley/Mason blow-bys.

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    It's a combination of things..

    I think loyalty is also a big part in this..

    Hairston is 22 years old..he just made his first NBA cut, he's significantly improved already, and will continue to get better..he's gonna have a lot of time in the NBA..

    We talk a lot about Duncan's last run, but this is likely Finley's last year in the NBA..if we're going to make a run, I highly doubt Pop puts him on the IL for the duration of it..he's too respected on this team..it looks like we're starting to see his decline in minutes though, so at least that's a positive..

    Mason signed last year with aspirations of competing at a high level with this team..I highly doubt Pop would put him on the IL just a season after Mase had a surprising regular season and helped us win some games..

    Hairston is a better player than Finley IMO, I don't see how he couldn't be..I don't really believe Finley is still an NBA-level player, just an NBA-level shooter at this point..Mason is a 1-D player that is currently in a slump, only preferred over Finley due to his age..

    I hope he plays, he's a better fit for this team and can fill a need better than either Finley or Mason..loyalty will be key here, so I doubt Hairston gets his shot..I believe the FO believes he can already play though, which is why they kept him when they didn't have to..he's already an NBA-level player with a lot of upside, and already has good chemistry with our other young players..

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    It's a combination of things..

    I think loyalty is also a big part in this..

    Hairston is 22 years old..he just made his first NBA cut, he's significantly improved already, and will continue to get better..he's gonna have a lot of time in the NBA..

    We talk a lot about Duncan's last run, but this is likely Finley's last year in the NBA..if we're going to make a run, I highly doubt Pop puts him on the IL for the duration of it..he's too respected on this team..it looks like we're starting to see his decline in minutes though, so at least that's a positive..

    Mason signed last year with aspirations of competing at a high level with this team..I highly doubt Pop would put him on the IL just a season after Mase had a surprising regular season and helped us win some games..

    Hairston is a better player than Finley IMO, I don't see how he couldn't be..I don't really believe Finley is still an NBA-level player, just an NBA-level shooter at this point..Mason is a 1-D player that is currently in a slump, only preferred over Finley due to his age..

    I hope he plays, he's a better fit for this team and can fill a need better than either Finley or Mason..loyalty will be key here, so I doubt Hairston gets his shot..I believe the FO believes he can already play though, which is why they kept him when they didn't have to..he's already an NBA-level player with a lot of upside, and already has good chemistry with our other young players..
    I totally agree and I wouldn't doubt that loyalty has a lot to do with it. But screw loyalty. Loyalty doesn't win games, talent does. I know I'm preaching to the choir, but I had to get that out.

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    It's a combination of things..

    I think loyalty is also a big part in this..

    Hairston is 22 years old..he just made his first NBA cut, he's significantly improved already, and will continue to get better..he's gonna have a lot of time in the NBA..

    We talk a lot about Duncan's last run, but this is likely Finley's last year in the NBA..if we're going to make a run, I highly doubt Pop puts him on the IL for the duration of it..he's too respected on this team..it looks like we're starting to see his decline in minutes though, so at least that's a positive..

    Mason signed last year with aspirations of competing at a high level with this team..I highly doubt Pop would put him on the IL just a season after Mase had a surprising regular season and helped us win some games..

    Hairston is a better player than Finley IMO, I don't see how he couldn't be..I don't really believe Finley is still an NBA-level player, just an NBA-level shooter at this point..Mason is a 1-D player that is currently in a slump, only preferred over Finley due to his age..

    I hope he plays, he's a better fit for this team and can fill a need better than either Finley or Mason..loyalty will be key here, so I doubt Hairston gets his shot..I believe the FO believes he can already play though, which is why they kept him when they didn't have to..he's already an NBA-level player with a lot of upside, and already has good chemistry with our other young players..
    I really can't see Mason and Finley lasting the whole season. One or the other has to go. It's redundant to keep both on the roster.

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    i would wave Mason before him. he was very good when he got minutes last year. esp in that game against Denver. showed a lot of heart, toughness and athleticism. he can defend, too. and in preseason he was hitting his threes.

    i see a lot more upside with him than i do Mason.

    i agree

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    I really can't see Mason and Finley lasting the whole season. One or the other has to go. It's redundant to keep both on the roster.
    Could it be that Pop is coming to the same realization? Again, I don't believe that either Finley or Mason will be waived. Perhaps one or the other gets traded? Still, the Spurs don't need 3 one-trick ponies on the roster (Bonner being the other - and he isn't going anywhere).

    If Pop wants to improve the team defense, he will continue to have to limit the minutes of these guys. In Finley's case, let's hope he's being phased out alltogether.

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    Theres no minutes available.

    If Ginobili can't go saturday I'd say he will get some burn.

    IMO Finley is slowly being fazed out.

    Last night in the 4th quarter was a typical Pop time to play him (offense sputtering needing spacing) and he didn't see the court hardly at all.

    Hairston is one year away still but he will get his chances and hopefully he takes advantage.
    looks to me its happening already ... the more the new guys produce within their capabilities the less time fin will see the court ... its about time... i wonder if he doesnt look at the mirror and tell himself that he cant do it no more? cmon hes gotta feel like hes letting the team down with his play atleast .....

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    just being on the spurs roster to this point guarantees him a long career in the NBA.

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    The BBIQ level on this board has taken a massive downturn. Sad really.

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    Wait until the current group is acclimated to the situation before putting another unknown in there. A team an easily get a .500 record by infusing a ton of new players at once. We will know a lot more around January.

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    The final nail in the coffin is that Bogans is showing that he can real keep up the intensity. Mason and Finley aren't replaceable unless their traded, but that means someone else will come in to take minutes.
    Weren't you advocating Bogans be waived before?

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    I hope this guy can play 15-20 minutes per game.

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    I would be happy to see Hairston in garbage time. If he can produce in garbage time, at least there is hope for him gain extra minutes. Suddenly throwing him into the fire against legit NBA players might make him look quite bad and we might get "Waive Malik Hairston" or "Malik Hairston sucks" threads.

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    do I dunk too much?

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