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Gimmme LINKS>>>>FOR GOD SAKES GIMME LINKS...where the you been...You haven't heard of the jihad?
What electorally significant political party?
Gimmme LINKS>>>>FOR GOD SAKES GIMME LINKS...where the you been...You haven't heard of the jihad?
Sure. And See of Rome tried to capture Jerusalem. Repeatedly. Your point?
O.K. I'm out you're beyond stupid at this point.
Well you may have noticed he's ing dead , and he's not ing with me or mine.
There ain't no one big nasty jihad. If there is, it's on you to show it even exists.
The Roman's are no longer around, the Muslims are.
No, you're beyond stupid. You beg the question of a jihad and a caliphate of no great geographical or political magnitude. You can't give any evidence but your own conviction that it even exists, other than pointing darkly at terrorism, sowing fear and encouraging everybody's fearful imagination to fill in the rest.
It's a a hackneyed bete noir. A bogeyman. Fit perhaps to frighten the young and the feebleminded. Terrorism ain't that big a deal, compared to us. Against us, the only chance it stands is making us lose our chickenheaded minds, just like you lost yours.
No sharia law exist in any foreing country. Move along.
BBC NEWS
Execution of a teenage girl
A television do entary team has pieced together details surrounding the case of a 16-year-old girl, executed two years ago in Iran.
On 15 August, 2004, Atefah Sahaaleh was hanged in a public square in the Iranian city of Neka.
Her death sentence was imposed for "crimes against chas y".
The state-run newspaper accused her of adultery and described her as 22 years old.
But she was not married - and she was just 16.
Sharia Law
In terms of the number of people executed by the state in 2004, Iran is estimated to be second only to China.
In the year of Atefah's death, at least 159 people were executed in accordance with the Islamic law of the country, based on the Sharia code.
Since the revolution, Sharia law has been Iran's highest legal authority.
Alongside murder and drug smuggling, sex outside marriage is also a capital crime.
As a signatory of the International Convention on Civil and Political Rights, Iran has promised not to execute anyone under the age of 18.
But the clerical courts do not answer to parliament. They abide by their religious supreme leader, Ayatollah Khamenei, making it virtually impossible for human rights campaigners to call them to account.
Code of behaviour
At the time of Atefah's execution in Neka, journalist Asieh Amini heard rumours the girl was just 16 years old and so began to ask questions.
"When I met with the family," says Asieh, "they showed me a copy of her birth certificate, and a copy of her death certificate. Both of them show she was born in 1988. This gave me legitimate grounds to investigate the case."
So why was such a young girl executed? And how could she have been accused of adultery when she was not even married?
Disturbed by the death of her mother when she was only four or five years old, and her distraught father's subsequent drug addiction, Atefah had a difficult childhood.
She was also left to care for her elderly grandparents, but they are said to have shown her no affection.
In a town like Neka, heavily under the control of religious authorities, Atefah - often seen wandering around on her own - was con uous.
It was just a matter of time before she came to the attention of the "moral police", a branch of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard, whose job it is to enforce the Islamic code of behaviour on Iran's streets.
Secret relationship
Being stopped or arrested by the moral police is a fact of life for many Iranian teenagers.
Previously arrested for attending a party and being alone in a car with a boy, Atefah received her first sentence for "crimes against chas y" when she was just 13.
Although the exact nature of the crime is unknown, she spent a short time in prison and received 100 lashes.
“ Atefah was soon caught in a downward spiral of arrest and abuse ”
When she returned to her home town, she told those close to her that lashes were not the only things she had to endure in prison. She described abuse by the moral police guards.
Soon after her release, Atefah became involved in an abusive relationship with a man three times her age.
Former revolutionary guard, 51-year-old Ali Darabi - a married man with children - raped her several times.
She kept the relationship a secret from both her family and the authorities.
Atefah was soon caught in a downward spiral of arrest and abuse.
Local pe ion
Cir stances surrounding Atefah's fourth and final arrest were unusual.
The moral police said the locals had submitted a pe ion, describing her as a "source of immorality" and a "terrible influence on local schoolgirls".
But there were no signatures on the pe ion - only those of the arresting guards.
“ Men's word is accepted much more clearly and much more easily than women ”
Mohammad Hoshi,
Iranian lawyer and exile
Three days after her arrest, Atefah was in a court and tried under Sharia law.
The judge was the powerful Haji Rezai, head of the judiciary in Neka.
No court transcript is available from Atefah's trial, but it is known that for the first time, Atefah confessed to the secret of her sexual abuse by Ali Darabi.
However, the age of sexual consent for girls under Sharia law - within the confines of marriage - is nine, and furthermore, rape is very hard to prove in an Iranian court.
"Men's word is accepted much more clearly and much more easily than women," according to Iranian lawyer and exile Mohammad Hoshi.
"They can say: 'You know she encouraged me' or 'She didn't wear proper dress'."
Court of appeal
“ She was my love, my heart... I did everything for her, everything I could ”
Atefah's father
When Atefah realised her case was hopeless, she shouted back at the judge and threw off her veil in protest.
It was a fatal outburst.
She was sentenced to execution by hanging, while Darabi got just 95 lashes.
Shortly before the execution, but unbeknown to her family, do ents that went to the Supreme Court of Appeal described Atefah as 22.
"Neither the judge nor even Atefah's court appointed lawyer did anything to find out her true age," says her father.
And a witness claims: "The judge just looked at her body, because of the developed physique... and declared her as 22."
Judge Haji Rezai took Atefah's do ents to the Supreme Court himself.
And at six o'clock on the morning of her execution he put the noose around her neck, before she was hoisted on a crane to her death.
Pain and death
During the making of the do entary about Atefah's death the production team telephoned Judge Haji Rezai to ask him about the case, but he refused to comment.
The human rights organisation Amnesty International says it is concerned that executions are becoming more common again under President Mahmoud Ahmedinajad, who advocates a return to the pure values of the revolution.
The judiciary have never admitted there was any mishandling of Atefah's case.
For Atefah's father the pain of her death remains raw. "She was my love, my heart... I did everything for her, everything I could," he says.
He did not get the chance to say goodbye.
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/h...es/5217424.stm
Published: 2006/07/27 19:01:07 GMT
© BBC MMIX
The Muslims aren't our enemy, pinhead.
Why doesn't Obama say that?
Not all muslims, but the ones that actually have to adhere to the Quran.
This sort of thing happens in Saudi Arabia from time to time. Are they our enemy, too?
Yeah you and Obama preach this while not only the people outside the Islamic world are terrorized,but the people in the muslim world suffer under the bootheel of a form of spiritual mongloidisim.
Yeah it's a far cry from your lawn chair in the suburbs, but I just had dinner the other night with a couple from Kashmir in India they'd beg to differ with you and greenwald. Denial and lies is no argument.
Sharia is a neighborhood system of justice. It varies from place to place. It's not one big evil thing either.
I was talking about us, not Kashmir. Keep your eye o n the ball.
What kind of diseased hampster is running around in your gourd....Happens from time to time......from time to time......christ.........I personally don't care what you believe, as long as you keep it in your own yard.
Don't sugarcoat it, micca. Please tell us what you really think.
The politics forum is my own backyard.
The problems of the real world must seem easy to solve from the barstool of a kitchy little micro brewery in the suburbs.
So you're reduced to trolling....
trolling.
Whereas you never rose above it. So don't pat yourself on the back too hard for noticing.
An enemy of my enemy rule.
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