vince young

[mookie2001]

ok so now its we're talking average season good season

Vince young has never had a wideout capable of putting up anywhere near those numbers

[Blake]

yes youre right, did he owe you money or something?, i think its well known that hes a different guy who really didnt give a about football anymore, he was a millionare, and an adult.

I think it's well known he didnt give a about anything........until I'm guessing that the money started running low.

youre saying that proves he was coddled 15 years ago under mackovic, who recruited him and coached him for 3 years, and that THAT made mack brown coddle benson and vy and not prepare them for the nfl, and thats texas' style

thats a stretch but i get you

I'm saying that UT coddles it's players and they aren't prepared for life.

[Blake]

now we know colt mccoy is gonna suck in the nfl by default

probably.

although Shipley might be one of the exceptions to the rule.

[mookie2001]

I think it's well known he didnt give a about anything........until I'm guessing that the money started running low.



I'm saying that UT coddles it's players and they aren't prepared for life.

did ricky owe you something? i dont get your angle here, are you a lifelong miami dolphins fan? or a few years ago did you think texas did not coddle its players and ricky proved you wrong?


saying an entire university coddles all their players and doesnt prepare them for life is wrong, you know youre wrong and so does everyone who would read that statement

[mookie2001]

if only texas tech university had dozens of players in the nfl so we could all evaulate their coddling percentages

[Blake]

did ricky owe you something? i dont get your angle here, are you a lifelong miami dolphins fan? or a few yeard ago did you think texas did not coddle its players and ricky proved you wrong?

what angle? Did or didn't Ricky get thumped because of his doping?

saying an entire university coddles all their players and doesnt prepare them for life is wrong, you know youre wrong and so does everyone who would read that statement

Looking at Benson, Young, Roy, and Ricky and based on the perception of coddling that has been noted by various writers, I'll go ahead and stick with my opinion.

[Blake]

if only texas tech university had dozens of players in the nfl so we could all evaulate their coddling percentages

Being in the pros has nothing to do with Mack Brown's coddling.

Leach clearly does not coddle...... I'm not sure why you want to talk about Tech.

[mookie2001]

yes the ricky williams story is well known

i just dont see what that has to do with coddling actually i dont even know what coddling means, like holding a baby

thats what mackovich and mack brown did to orakpo, jammer, dan neil, casey hampton, michael griffin, aaron ross, shaun rogers, priest holmes, held them so tight that they wouldnt get picked in the top 5 of the draft, that was their favor.


just using tech an example, they have a handful of players in the nfl compared to dozens for texas, more are going to be good, more are going to average and more are going to be busts

[Blake]

actually i dont even know what coddling means

think Im done here

[mookie2001]

blake is my dictionary



like babies how cute

[LOL texans]

eh, it's easy to get you and and whisky dog confused as your posts are pretty much the same crap.

although I will say whisky dog is slightly more stupid and I don't think I've ever seen you and stretch in the same thread at the same time.

...thats your excuse for lack of reading comprehension...okay.


I think its funny that you let your "Longhorn hate" make you look like a complete dumb fool.

I mean seriously, what kind of person, no loser, holds a grudge against college football players who are now in the NFL. According to blake... "every Longhorn player who has ever played in the NFL and every future Longhorn player who will play in the NFL will suck because Im a bitter Tech fan"...Thats basically your sentiment.

And apparently, you think you can predict that Vince would of gone 0-6. Apparently you have some crystal ball that told you that. Obviously the ans are a far better team with Vince at the helm. They would of won some of those game. But if you are so confident in your abilities to predict the "going on's" in the NFL then I'd like to see you predict every single game correctly in the NFL so I can lay some bets and make some money....you know, since you know everything and all.

And Tech prepares their players for the NFL better than Texas???? son, Tech doesn't even prepare their players to make it to that level hardly, if ever. That's the reason you fail to see a Tech QB even be a suitible back up in the NFL. Thats the reason hardly see any tech players in the NFL

I spout my Longhorn fandom proudly, but Im not some loser who says OR believes every single OU player and A&M player sucks in the NFL, or that future OU and A&M players will suck. On the contrary. , I hated Crabtree last season, but I don't hate him anymore. In fact, I've tried to watch the 49ers just to see how he is playing in the NFL our of intrest.

Maybe its different for me, because my Longhorns have dominated Tech and always will. Maybe its different for me because my Longhorns have actually done something in the college football landscape and have some hardware in their trophy case.

I think your mentality on bashing NFL players based on where they played their college ball speaks volumes of you as a person.

[Blake]

...thats your excuse for lack of reading comprehension...okay.


I think its funny that you let your "Longhorn hate" make you look like a complete dumb fool.

I mean seriously, what kind of person, no loser, holds a grudge against college football players who are now in the NFL. According to blake... "every Longhorn player who has ever played in the NFL and every future Longhorn player who will play in the NFL will suck because Im a bitter Tech fan"...Thats basically your sentiment.

And apparently, you think you can predict that Vince would of gone 0-6. Apparently you have some crystal ball that told you that. Obviously the ans are a far better team with Vince at the helm. They would of won some of those game. But if you are so confident in your abilities to predict the "going on's" in the NFL then I'd like to see you predict every single game correctly in the NFL so I can lay some bets and make some money....you know, since you know everything and all.

And Tech prepares their players for the NFL better than Texas???? son, Tech doesn't even prepare their players to make it to that level hardly, if ever. That's the reason you fail to see a Tech QB even be a suitible back up in the NFL. Thats the reason hardly see any tech players in the NFL

I spout my Longhorn fandom proudly, but Im not some loser who says OR believes every single OU player and A&M player sucks in the NFL, or that future OU and A&M players will suck. On the contrary. , I hated Crabtree last season, but I don't hate him anymore. In fact, I've tried to watch the 49ers just to see how he is playing in the NFL our of intrest.

Maybe its different for me, because my Longhorns have dominated Tech and always will. Maybe its different for me because my Longhorns have actually done something in the college football landscape and have some hardware in their trophy case.

I think your mentality on bashing NFL players based on where they played their college ball speaks volumes of you as a person.

your obvious longhorn nuthuggery makes you think the ans are a "far better team with Vince at the helm."

what's your excuse for a lack of reading comprehension?

you're an idiot, lol whisky texan.

[Spursfan092120]

your obvious longhorn nuthuggery makes you think the ans are a "far better team with Vince at the helm."

what's your excuse for a lack of reading comprehension?

you're an idiot, lol whisky texan.

And your longhorn hate and complete and total ignorance makes it impossible for you to realize that 3-0 is far better than 0-6.

[spursncowboys]

Watching Vince against the Niners this past Sunday, he's not nearly as bad as I remembered. He even threw a few nice deep balls. Overall he managed the game and didn't make mistakes. He's certainly improved from his last run of starts a few years ago. If he can continue to improve he'll certainly avoid the 'bust' label.

But the main reason the ans won that game is Chris Johnson. End of story. That, plus, Alex Smith sucks balls. (and so do the Niners, pretty much)

I agree. It seems like he lost his newby style pf playing. He looks and plays a little more calmer. It is only two games though.

[Spursfan092120]

Watching Vince against the Niners this past Sunday, he's not nearly as bad as I remembered. He even threw a few nice deep balls. Overall he managed the game and didn't make mistakes. He's certainly improved from his last run of starts a few years ago. If he can continue to improve he'll certainly avoid the 'bust' label.

But the main reason the ans won that game is Chris Johnson. End of story. That, plus, Alex Smith sucks balls. (and so do the Niners, pretty much)

Not to discount your post or anything, but where did you see him have a real bad game? Vince was a decent QB before the whole injury/so called suicide incident that put him on the bench, where he's been ever since. I mean, the guy was 20-10 or 19-10 as a starter at that point. In my opinion, doing that in your first few seasons, coming in as a rookie starting QB is pretty damn good.

[Spursfan092120]

true ricky williams had 130 yards and 3 tds tonight and that proved he was coddled 15 years ago under mackovic


you could have a longer threa than this about ricky

I was damn proud of Ricky last night. My fantasy opponent had him on his team and got 30 points, so I just might lose, but it'll be alright with me to see Ricky run the ball so well. I'll still be in first anyway, even with the "L"

[Blake]

And your longhorn hate and complete and total ignorance makes it impossible for you to realize that 3-0 is far better than 0-6.

how many more games do you think the ans would have won if Vince had started all year?

maybe Vince will make the Super Bowl this year like Vick did.

[Blake]

It is only two games though.

It's been 3.

The Vince huthuggers remind us every day.

[Whisky Dog]

Hmmm... VY, Ricky, Roy W... all black. No wonder Blake thinks they're "coddled".

Besides, some fail to realize that the job of the college coach is to win and be successful at his program, not to be an NFL training grounds. Mack's success + NC speaks for itself. Call them "coddled" all you want, I'll gladly take a "coddled" NC than whatever it is growing dust bunnies in Tech's trophy case.

I will admit I'm amused at the irrational levels a hater will go to when trying to hate on success. How do you hate on success?

[Whisky Dog]

probably.

although Shipley might be one of the exceptions to the rule.

What a surprise.

[Blake]

Hmmm... VY, Ricky, Roy W... all black. No wonder Blake thinks they're "coddled".

Hmmm.....more points about the color of players' skin. No wonder I think you are a racist.

Besides, some fail to realize that the job of the college coach is to win and be successful at his program, not to be an NFL training grounds. Mack's success + NC speaks for itself. Call them "coddled" all you want, I'll gladly take a "coddled" NC than whatever it is growing dust bunnies in Tech's trophy case.

I'd take it too. If coddling is what it takes to win games at the college level, then great, Mack is doing his job.

I will admit I'm amused at the irrational levels a hater will go to when trying to hate on success. How do you hate on success?

Nobody hates success. Apparently you hate learning to read.

[Blake]

I've just made another racially charged remark.

what a surprise.

[Spursfan092120]

how many more games do you think the ans would have won if Vince had started all year?

maybe Vince will make the Super Bowl this year like Vick did.

aww..how sweet..when he's owned he goes back to posts from a while back to try to own someone else in retaliation..you are such a ...lmao..

3-0 >>>>>>> 0-6

yes...this Tennessee team is FAR better with Vince than Kerry...numbers don't like, dumbass. I could say....you know what, it doesn't matter that that Colts are undefeated...the Rams are better than them..

[Whisky Dog]

what a surprise.

I'm just curious - did it eat you up inside having to cheer for Michael crabtree? Did you feel like you were letting your fuher down? Did you have to turn all of your nazi/clan items and pictures face down out of inner shame while you cheered him on?

[mookie2001]

welker, now that guys a gritty hard worker, he has a high football IQ