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Kobe's a roleplayer too if Dwade and Lebron are.
Kobe's a roleplayer too if Dwade and Lebron are.
Remember how you are following your boy's asinine conclusions of who is marquee. MJ didn't have a marquee player for any of his rings, just role players. While, on the other side of the spectrum, Shaq was the marquee player of the Lakers.
Luva got a few turkey rolls ta roilin'. tee, hee.
Wade has one ring... but he's not marquee? Why? Because he had Shaq?... hmmm... better not go that route...
lulz. 6 > 1
Kobe is also a marquee player.
Seriously though man why does Laker fan bring up Kobe's 4 rings and compare them to other guys' rings (like Timmy or MJ) as if all things were equal? As if Kobe is as responsible for the Lakers' sucess as much as Duncan/MJ are for the Spurs/Bulls sucess. The latter were the clear cut centerpieces of their teams' sucess and the former simply wasnt. Kobe was still a great player but the centerpiece of the 00-02 Lakers was Shaq. Plain and simple.
Yea, Kobe is a great roleplayer.
Indeed I can argue it, because you're a moron, which you already proved. You can't have things both ways. It's apparent, according to your logic, he has no clue what "marquee" means. So, don't try to proclaim you're some knowledgeable basketball fan, when it's conclusive you don't know .
Cuz it drives you Kobe haters nutty-nuts. It do not get better than that.
nutty-nuts?
you're in the midst of proving you're are an idiot over and over. Success!
Im not really arguing that he wouldnt have the rings without Shaq, thats a given. Just like Shaq wouldnt have the rings without Kobe. All Im saying is you simply cannot equate them to Tim's for instance or MJ's if he ever reaches 6. Shaq had 1 MVP and 3 Finals MVPs from 00-02...that was his team. Shaq was 1a and Kobe was 1b there really is no arguing that. The Spurs and Bulls on the other hand were always Tim's and MJs teams.
I dont really see it as Magic/Kareem either, if it was the present day Kobe that played with 00-02 Shaq I would buy it. Young Kobe still had alot of things to figure out though he wasnt there yet.
Where are the MJ quotes where he says Barkley and Drexler are not superstars?
Let me know if you need help finding them...
It's really simple. You could have replaced Kobe with at least 10-15 different players in 00-02 and still won. The only player you could have replaced Shaq with back then and still won was Duncan. You know that, I know that. Most Lakerfan secretly know that too.
I'll be waiting for the quotes...
Look man, noone is saying Shaq didnt need Kobe. Noone is saying Kobe wasnt all league from 00-02. It was a nice partnership but ultimately it was Shaqs team even if it was by the smallest of margins. Which is why its re ed to try to equate Kobe's rings to TD's who has been the clear cut centerpiece of his team his entire career. The same with MJ if Kobe were to ever reach 6.
As far as being the go-to guy. That had to do with Shaq's FT woes as well as Kobe definitely being one clutch ass mofo, that doesnt really change the fact that it was Shaq's team though. Ginobili regularly has the ball in his hands late in games yet I dont see anyone arguing that the Spurs are his team just as much as theyre Duncan's.
lulz. " ." Why don't you pull out your GED and put it to some good use.
Please learn what marquee means.
No dependable move? GTFO the man was the most dominant player on the planet from 00-02, if you gave him the ball in the paint your chances were good. In late moments though teams would wrap him up and send him to the line where he wasnt very good. That coupled with Kobe's clutchness is the real reason and you know it. You do know I never said Kobe couldnt win without Shaq? You do know Shaq has won without Kobe just as much as Kobe has without him? You do know 'being on his way' means jack until it actually happens?
Love the way you ignore rest of the post too, so tell me...how exactly do Kobe's 4 equate to Timmy's 4 despite the fact that Kobe was second fiddle (even if it was by the smallest of margins) for three of them?
Hey, it's YOU making the claims. It's YOUR job to back up what you say.
Let's see it. MJ saying neither Barkley or Drexler are superstars or even HOF'ers for that matter.
Otherwise we would have to assume you're full of , which really would be par for the course...
Eh, perhaps LakaLuva setting the bar a hair too high, but it makes for an interesting discussion.lulz. " ." Why don't you pull out your GED and put it to some good use.
Please learn what marquee means.
Kobe needs at least 3 more rings to catch up to Duncan and Shaq... Just like we would ask Wade to win 4 more also...
Right now, he's the best and most dominant player in the league. He has a ring being that. I don't think he has enough left for two more runs, but we'll see.
Incorrect. It didn't take me 5 pages. It took me one post for draw you into your incorrect assumptions, and one more post to show you the error of your ways, which you still can't see. Why? Because, you're a small minded ing moron. You don't know about anything, and you post repe ively changing your point. Those two posts alone, as well as many others in this thread have shown you don't know . Kobe used marquee out of context, as well as you saying what players aren't. I'm sorry you don't get that. LOL.
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