Dejaun Blair Hype

[BOHOLANO#21]

irony

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[exstatic]

No, last year Boozer was unexpected out most of the year AND Milsap was in a contract year.

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edit: And by the way, Millsap is a great illustration of how production on the second unit doesn't necessarily extend to production on the first unit.

And this year, Booz unexpectedly DIDN'T opt out like he said he was going to for 2 years. Having to share a position cuts anyone's numbers. Booz is not in the Jazz plans. He'll be gone next year at the latest, but quite possibly by the trade deadline. Then you'll see Millsap's nubmers return to where they were when he was the starting 4 last year.

BTW, your starter/reserve argument is . Millsap did quite fine as the starter last year. I don't know where you were going with that, but it was a fail.

[jack0fspeed]

DeJuan Blair is averaging 5.6 and 5.2 as a rookie, playing only 14 minutes a game. Millsap is averaging 10.5 and 6.3 as a 4 year vet playing 27 minutes a game. not exactly a fair comparison. ...

I didn't bring Millsap into this conversation, but I actually think it's a fair comparison.

We are all looking at this rookie and trying to figure out his upside. It sounds like Paul Millsap upside is something we can all agree on? Or do some people think he's got more upside than that?

If he's got Paul Millsap upside and given his current production, I don't see why anyone is excited.

[Spursfan092120]

I didn't bring Millsap into this conversation, but I actually think it's a fair comparison.

We are all looking at this rookie and trying to figure out his upside. It sounds like Paul Millsap upside is something we can all agree on? Or do some people think he's got more upside than that?

If he's got Paul Millsap upside and given his current production, I don't see why anyone is excited.

How is it a fair comparison? Millsap has been in the league for 4 years and is getting 27.1 minutes per game, and Blair has almost as many rebounds with 14 minutes a game. You can't compare a rookie to a 4 year vet..no matter what. The guy is a rookie, playing an average of just over a quarter per game. He hasn't had enough compe ion on NBA level to show what his future holds. All I know is if he plays 30 minutes on his current play level, which he should, considering he seems to play better as time goes by, he will average 11.5 points a game and 10.7 rebounds per game. And for a rookie, averaging a double double, that's pretty damn successful.

[jack0fspeed]

And this year, Booz unexpectedly DIDN'T opt out like he said he was going to for 2 years. Having to share a position cuts anyone's numbers. Booz is not in the Jazz plans. He'll be gone next year at the latest, but quite possibly by the trade deadline. Then you'll see Millsap's nubmers return to where they were when he was the starting 4 last year.

BTW, your starter/reserve argument is . Millsap did quite fine as the starter last year. I don't know where you were going with that, but it was a fail.

Millsap got 8 and 6 in 20 minutes as a backup. 13.5 and 8 is not too much more production in 10 extra minutes.

If your starting PF is going to give you that production he better be a defensive ace a la Udonis Haslem. Otherwise you need to go find another PF. The Jazz would be smart to keep Boozer. The only reason why they wouldn't is because of their cap situation.

[Cane]

What the is with this focus on stats? Watch the game if you want to see how a rookie is doing.

And comparing Dejuan Blair to vets makes the OP's case look dumber especially since he's the one bringing them up. If you know anything about the Spurs, Pop is still juggling the lineups and this season Blair has been given limited minutes which is the norm for the Spurs.

Give Blair more minutes and he'd be averaging a double-double or close to it.

Imo jack's an idiot.

[jack0fspeed]

What the is with this focus on stats? Watch the game if you want to see how a rookie is doing.

And comparing Dejuan Blair to vets makes the OP's case look dumber especially since he's the one bringing them up. If you know anything about the Spurs, Pop is still juggling the lineups and this season Blair has been given limited minutes which is the norm for the Spurs.

Give Blair more minutes and he'd be averaging a double-double or close to it.

Imo jack's an idiot.

If you don't like stats, I asked you for an eyeball guess ... who is his upside comparable to? My eyeballs say Paul Millsap. And I wasn't the first person to mention his name.

If he averages a double double in starter minutes but he can't defend anyone do you honestly think the Spurs couldn't find someone else that would help them more?

[Cane]

If he averages a double double in starter minutes but he can't defend anyone do you honestly think the Spurs couldn't find someone else that would help them more?

Yea, their names are Antonio McDyess and Theo Ratliff.

There was no better person to draft than Dejuan Blair for the Spurs - he was a steal and is a young big that hustles for the rebounds and a of a lot better than previous starts in terms of scoring (Oberto anyone).

Blairs upsides: young, wide, rebounds on an NBA level including offensive boards, hustles, and can score the ball

Downsides: he's a short rookie, he' playing for the Spurs so he won't get very many minutes, and threads like these

[exstatic]

Actually, I think Blair's upside is probably the flip side: 8-9 points, 13.5 rebounds. Once, he stops committing stupid fouls, and getting called for ticky-tacky ones, he's going to be a machine on the glass.

[HarlemHeat37]

This thread reeks of jealousy..

[jack0fspeed]

Yea, their names are Antonio McDyess and Theo Ratliff.

There was no better person to draft than Dejuan Blair for the Spurs - he was a steal and is a young big that hustles for the rebounds and a of a lot better than previous starts in terms of scoring (Oberto anyone).

Blairs upsides: young, wide, rebounds on an NBA level including offensive boards, hustles, and can score the ball

Downsides: he's a short rookie, he' playing for the Spurs so he won't get very many minutes, and threads like these

I'm not saying the Spurs shouldn't have drafted him. As someone said earlier, finding a backup level player in the second round is good.

All I'm saying is that with his limited upside, I don't get all the hype.

[Spursfan092120]

I'm not saying the Spurs shouldn't have drafted him. As someone said earlier, finding a backup level player in the second round is good.

All I'm saying is that with his limited upside, I don't get all the hype.

limited upside? A rookie averaging 5.6 and 5.2 in 14 MPG is limited? Wow...so I guess Lebron was "somewhat decent" his rookie year, huh?

[Spursfan092120]

That made me want to look at stats...if you take Lebron's rookie year and give him DeJuan's minutes, he averages 7.73 points and 2.03 rebounds per game...Blair's close to that on points and more than double that in rebounds. Want to compare someone in his position? Let's take the guy who's probably the best PF in the league right now, and probably your fave, Dirk Nowitzki...take his rookie numbers and give him Blair's minutes, he gets 5.87 points and 2.5 rebounds per game. NOW do you see the hype? Take Dirk's entire career, and give him Blair's minutes, he averages 9.1 points and 3.43 rebounds per game.

[exstatic]

If he averages a double double in starter minutes but he can't defend anyone do you honestly think the Spurs couldn't find someone else that would help them more?

Not for less than $1M a year for 4 years, and certainly not in our draft position. That's the steal. That's the upside. To get that, plus defense in a player under 30 probably costs you $8-10M per year. Bigs always get overpaid and evaluated on potential rather than production. That's a fact of NBA life.

[jack0fspeed]

limited upside? A rookie averaging 5.6 and 5.2 in 14 MPG is limited? Wow...so I guess Lebron was "somewhat decent" his rookie year, huh?

First of all Lebron played 40 mpg in his rookie year precisely because his team knew he could become a superstar level player.

The fact that Blair is getting 14 mpg is right in line with Millsap upside.

[Cry Havoc]

Watching jackOfspeed get owned in this thread is pleasurable to me.

7.6 Points
1.9 Rebounds
1.3 assists
1.58 turnovers
.3 blocks
In 15.5 minutes

Want to guess who's rookie numbers those are, jack?

[exstatic]

Watching jackOfspeed get owned in this thread is pleasurable to me.

7.6 Points
1.9 Rebounds
1.3 assists
1.58 turnovers
.3 blocks
In 15.5 minutes

Want to guess who's rookie numbers those are, jack?

He's already been Dirk-scoffed. I don't expect him to acknowledge it this time when he ignored it last.

[TinTin]

First of all Lebron played 40 mpg in his rookie year precisely because his team knew he could become a superstar level player.

The fact that Blair is getting 14 mpg is right in line with Millsap upside.

That made me want to look at stats...if you take Lebron's rookie year and give him DeJuan's minutes, he averages 7.73 points and 2.03 rebounds per game...Blair's close to that on points and more than double that in rebounds. Want to compare someone in his position? Let's take the guy who's probably the best PF in the league right now, and probably your fave, Dirk Nowitzki...take his rookie numbers and give him Blair's minutes, he gets 5.87 points and 2.5 rebounds per game. NOW do you see the hype? Take Dirk's entire career, and give him Blair's minutes, he averages 9.1 points and 3.43 rebounds per game.

So if you can quote the guy, why can't you quote his very next post?

Man everyone is a troll nowadays

[duhoh]

lol at Spurs fan hyping on one of their own players in a Spurs message board. Oh the nerve of it all.

I can see your point Mavs fan. I mean really...what do they talk about on a Mav's site? Rookie players compared to vets? Missing trophies? Dust?

/thread

[Interrohater]

That made me want to look at stats...if you take Lebron's rookie year and give him DeJuan's minutes, he averages 7.73 points and 2.03 rebounds per game...Blair's close to that on points and more than double that in rebounds. Want to compare someone in his position? Let's take the guy who's probably the best PF in the league right now, and probably your fave, Dirk Nowitzki...take his rookie numbers and give him Blair's minutes, he gets 5.87 points and 2.5 rebounds per game. NOW do you see the hype? Take Dirk's entire career, and give him Blair's minutes, he averages 9.1 points and 3.43 rebounds per game.

[Spursfan092120]

First of all Lebron played 40 mpg in his rookie year precisely because his team knew he could become a superstar level player.

The fact that Blair is getting 14 mpg is right in line with Millsap upside.

ah..so everyone knows when someone is going to be a superstar player? It's not possible for someone to sneak up there? Jeez...Guess Manu and Tony aren't superstars...I guess Scottie Pippen and John Stockton sucked...Bill Laimbeer, Karl Malone? Horrible.

[Cry Havoc]

Well that's ONE cure for swine flu.

[K-State Spur]

I've been hearing what geniuses Spurs management were for "stealing" Blair in the second round. Furthermore all offseason the talk was of how great the Spurs did. Where is it? Which of the offseason acquisitions looks great so far?

Frankly I look at the Mavs and even if Shawn Marion looks a little shaky everything else the Mavs did in the offseason looks great.

I agree.

In the two meetings with the Spurs this year, despite the fact that the Spurs were missing 2 of their big 3 for both those meetings - the Mavs looked nothing short of stellar. Even though they got s acked by a team without Duncan & Parker and needed OT to eek by a team without Parker & Ginobili - they looked nothing short of stellar. "Great" i tell you "great!"

[Spursfan092120]

Well that's ONE cure for swine flu.

ouch

[Spursfan092120]

Maybe this will teach Mav fan to come onto the Spurs Forum to bash a Spur...lol