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  1. #151
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    This is true, he finally settled into his role. Lord knows leading a team was not part of his make-up.
    Yeah, he was a horrible leader. He only won the MVP and the scoring le while carrying a talentless roster to the playoffs year after year before Duncan got there. Look what it did to his back, carrying the load by himself all those years. His back was bound to give out sooner or later.
    Did I mention he also won Defensive Player of the Year? Yeah, but he was just a role pleyr his whole career...

    What other career role players have won the MVP, scoring le, and DPOY?

  2. #152
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    Considering that your brain has images of Elmer Fudd and Karate Kidd floating around I'll take that as a compliment.
    Danka.

  3. #153
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    Tkae DRob off those early 90's teams and put a prime Kobe in his place... Do the Spurs get any closer to a championship with a prime Kobe instead of a prime Duncan?

    Do they beat the Rockets in 95 or does Hakeem average 50 against them instead of 38?

    Kobe's team post-Shaq and before Gasol were way more talented than any early 90's Spurs roster, yet he missed the playoffs one year and was bounced in the first round twice.

    Guess that means Kobe is just a role player too?

  4. #154
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    But, you ferget, Dunc: Kobe rang/sans Daddy. Robinson never rang/sans Duncan.

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    Yeah, he was a horrible leader. He only won the MVP and the scoring le while carrying a talentless roster to the playoffs year after year before Duncan got there. Look what it did to his back, carrying the load by himself all those years. His back was bound to give out sooner or later.
    Did I mention he also won Defensive Player of the Year? Yeah, but he was just a role pleyr his whole career...

    What other career role players have won the MVP, scoring le, and DPOY?
    well i guess that makes him the greatest role player in history

  6. #156
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    Right now I'd say it is closer than Spurs fans will admit. But there is no way a Tim Duncan in his prime can be compared to a Pau Gasol in any point of his career.
    This.



    And how can people say what position he is listed at is more important than the position he actually plays? That's ridiculous. The spurs can list him as whatever they want but that doesn't change REALITY. And in REALITY and he plays center and has for a long time. Call me crazy but I always thought reality and the truth trumped what the Spurs write down on some piece of paper. I don't understand what the Spurs/Spurfans obsession is with Tim Duncan being considered a power forward anyway. It's not an insult or a slight to him, it's simply the truth.

  7. #157
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    Sorry LakeShow I misunderstood your post, like it or not Duncan is listed as a PF. I couldn't give a damn if he was listed as the greatest of all time, and i'm sure he couldn't give a either.
    but Timmie did give a . Why? Why did he care so much about being listed as a PF instead of a Center? hmmm, I'll throw out one possible reason that he may have requested the change. 1st team all NBA nominations? At center he would have had a hard time getting any nominations. I'm just saying......

  8. #158
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    You guys bash Dirk, but praise DRob. Dirk won MVP. He's always at the top in scoring. He choked when he had the best team, and so did DRob.
    if u look at stats DROB isnt even that much better then Pau and Pau almost has as many 'ships as DROB to AND Pau never choked!!!!! Pau is probably better then Duncan right now to overall. Pau will be above Dirk DROB & Duncan when he retires.......

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    Believe. LakasRool4eva's Avatar
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    but Timmie did give a . Why? Why did he care so much about being listed as a PF instead of a Center? hmmm, I'll throw out one possible reason that he may have requested the change. 1st team all NBA nominations? At center he would have had a hard time getting any nominations. I'm just saying......
    i been sayin that 4 a long time to. u know Duncan cares about all that stuff but acts like he dont!!!! its obvious to anybody thats not a blind homer.

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    Pau will be above Dirk DROB & Duncan when he retires.......
    You've GOT to take off those purple and gold sunglasses.

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    Pau Gasol was irrelevant before joining the lakers. You can't say the same about Duncan's career.

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    if u look at stats DROB isnt even that much better then Pau and Pau almost has as many 'ships as DROB to AND Pau never choked!!!!! Pau is probably better then Duncan right now to overall. Pau will be above Dirk DROB & Duncan when he retires.......

    This guy is the funniest poster on ST.

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    This guy is the funniest poster on ST.
    yeah...my jaw pretty much hit the floor on that one

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    yeah...my jaw pretty much hit the floor on that one

    You know you're in the presence of greatness when there's a Laker fan who thinks Chloe Kardashian marrying Lamar Odom is actually something for the Lakers to be proud of.

  15. #165
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    if u look at stats DROB isnt even that much better then Pau and Pau almost has as many 'ships as DROB to AND Pau never choked!!!!! Pau is probably better then Duncan right now to overall. Pau will be above Dirk DROB & Duncan when he retires.......
    Shock post.

  16. #166
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    I sure hope the OP was trolling if not, ugh...

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    You know you're in the presence of greatness when there's a Laker fan who thinks Chloe Kardashian marrying Lamar Odom is actually something for the Lakers to be proud of.
    It's obviously a troll.






    It better be anyway. There are already enough embarrassing laker fans on this site. "LakazRool4eva"? That's just too much.

  18. #168
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    Pau Gasol is getting a taste of what it's like playing with another 7 footer in the starting lineup. Something Timmie has experienced most of his career in the NBA.
    By "most of his career", do you mean "his first four years"?

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    As of right now, i would say Duncan and Pau are pretty darn close. If you swapped either one, im not sure you notice much difference between the two teams, they are very similar players. I would give Duncan just a slight edge because of rebounding and defense.

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    By "most of his career", do you mean "his first four years"?
    No, most of his career. You tote up the cyphers, blanket-head.

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    I sure hope the OP was trolling if not, ugh...
    I see a sensible Laker fan!

    .... Get him! They're like the ing California Condor around here!

  22. #172
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    Offensively, I believe that Pau has the edge.

    Defensively, there is no comparison: Duncan can anchor one. Pau can not. Duncan in his prime could do almost as much as Ben Wallace in his prime, and give you 20+ ppg at the same time. Pau has no lateral movement on defense.

    Either way, Duncan has proven time and time again that he is, on both sides of the ball, more clutch than Pau.

  23. #173
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    Offensively, I believe that Pau has the edge.

    Defensively, there is no comparison: Duncan can anchor one. Pau can not. Duncan in his prime could do almost as much as Ben Wallace in his prime, and give you 20+ ppg at the same time. Pau has no lateral movement on defense.

    Either way, Duncan has proven time and time again that he is, on both sides of the ball, more clutch than Pau.

    Last edited by JD909; 11-30-2009 at 03:45 AM.

  24. #174
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    Yo so I guess we should consider Kobe a PF or maybe even a C this year since he's doing most of his work posting up in the paint? Dirk needs to be considered a SG/SF as well cause he lives out on the perimeter, he aint a real PF or C. Lebron aint no SG/SF, he has the ball in his hands 98.7% of the time sounds like a PG to me.

  25. #175
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    Yo so I guess we should consider Kobe a PF or maybe even a C this year since he's doing most of his work posting up in the paint? Dirk needs to be considered a SG/SF as well cause he lives out on the perimeter, he aint a real PF or C. Lebron aint no SG/SF, he has the ball in his hands 98.7% of the time sounds like a PG to me.
    One of the best post's ever on this board.

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