Gasol = Duncan

[LakeShow]

I sure hope the OP was trolling if not, ugh...

I see a sensible Laker fan!

.... Get him! They're like the ing California Condor around here!

Funny how out of all the Lakers fans who posted in this thread with intelligence, you call the so-called lakers fan who's only contribution to this subject was "ugh" a sensible fan.

[LakeShow]

I ran a couple of stat seaches just to see what kind of results I would get and let me tell you this system sucks. You search for Forwards and they include some FC, you seach for Centers and you receive some FC's. WTF? What in the is a F/C? Why is Gasol a FC and he and Duncan play the same position and Duncan is a Forward?

Most of the great Centers in the league, Ewing, Hakeem, Walton, Jabbar, Wilt, etc.. all were Centers in College, they were all drafted as centers and listed in the NBA as centers and remain so today. Guess what? Duncan fits the bill of the other players mentioned.

Artest surely knew what the he was talking about when he said that Duncan was a PIMP. Duncan is the man! He got the NBA to totally disregard the rules to re-classify him with a single letter. I might as well quit hating and recognize.

Tim Superfly Duncan is now one of my favorite players.

[Killakobe81]

TIm Duncan is the greatest PF I agree (IF he really is a PF) which is part o fte OP's point a Center playing PF has a HUGE advantage but saying Duncan is without a doubt the best Defensive PF ever? IDK about that ...I think KG is in the discussion ben Wallace in his prime is as well though he played out of position "the other way" as a undersized "center" I could argue others from history i barely saw ...but that would be foolish. Agree with jamstone intersting debate as for Pau and duncan Gasol is duncan "light" ...great post game, smarts limited vertical ...Duncan is the better defender better anchor Gasol more gifted passer ball-handler (Duncan could always dribble but passing sucked early in his career) Gasol better FT shooter over his career as well Duncan was and IS STILL the greater player but is not a landslide victory either ...

[Killakobe81]

but Timmie did give a . Why? Why did he care so much about being listed as a PF instead of a Center? hmmm, I'll throw out one possible reason that he may have requested the change. 1st team all NBA nominations? At center he would have had a hard time getting any nominations. I'm just saying......

Yep, I remember reading the fusss about it last year ...Look i alos agree we all know he is a center ...just no one cares enough to argue the fact (media wise) because evryone has accepted the Spurs version of truth ...either way he is still a HOF'er ...

[LakeShow]

Yep, I remember reading the fusss about it last year ...Look i alos agree we all know he is a center ...just no one cares enough to argue the fact (media wise) because evryone has accepted the Spurs version of truth ...either way he is still a HOF'er ...

The NBA sucks.

I would be the first to say that he is definitely HOF material but the only category that Tim Duncan was the best is in, is Pimping the NBA.

[Killakobe81]

And dont just use stats BECAUSE if we use stats then I could argue Shaq WAS better when i I KNOW shaq although dominant offensively WAS NOT a better all-around "BIG" than Duncan ...
gAsol could put up bigger numbers if on a lessor team ...if you watch the game you can see he is there with Dirk, bosh, KG and Amare as the best true PF's ...Duncan is the best center with Howard, Bynum a notch below ...

[ambchang]

I most definitely agree that Gasol = Duncan.

It only proves that even Laker fans agree that Kobe can't win a championship without the big man of the caliber of Shaq/Gasol(Duncan) leading him.

Kobe = coattail rider.

[Culburn369]

I most definitely agree that Gasol = Duncan.

[z0sa]

Tim Duncan, WCF 2008: tired, recovering from illness, and still averaging more points, rebounds, and blocks with .5 less assists than Gasol despite facing double and even triple coverage whenever he got the ball (Pau and co. couldn't even attempt to guard old, tired Tim alone).

Tim turned in three monster games: 30/18, 29/17, and 21/23 during his time against Pau in 08 WCF. Shall we go back to 2004?

[John Ameachi]

Lol the Laker fans talking Gasol up in this thread. You know the next time there's a Jordan vs. Kobe argument, they'll try to discount Gasol as much as possible.

[Cry Havoc]

Funny how out of all the Lakers fans who posted in this thread with intelligence, you call the so-called lakers fan who's only contribution to this subject was "ugh" a sensible fan.

The thread is ridiculous.

[jacobdrj]

[FkLA]

So the argument here is that Timmy plays like a C therefore he should be listed as one correct? Which is false by the way, he is alot more fluid and natural away from the paint than most Centers. KAJ, Wilt, Shaq, or Russell never had the range Tim does, they never brough the ball up the court, etc. He's more of a PF/C hybrid than a true Center. But to the original question, if thats the case...should Dirk be classified as a SF/SG since he lives out on the perimeter? Kobe a PF/C this year since he has made a living in the paint? Lebron a PG since he has the ball in his hands like 98.758% of the time?

[jacobdrj]

D-Wade and Tony Parker are centers for sure...

[hater]

Maybe if he learned to play a little defense. As in, maybe if he became the best defender ever at the PF position. You know, like Duncan is now.

/thread

[FkLA]

[Spursfan092120]

[UnWantedTheory]

Poor comparison, but Gasol is the perfect fit for LA, he doesn't need to be a great defender with athletic guards (outside of fisher the grabber), and Bynum. Duncan can anchor a team, Gasol doesn't need to.

Are we sure he could?

[UnWantedTheory]

Pau Gasol is getting a taste of what it's like playing with another 7 footer in the starting lineup. Something Timmie has experienced most of his career in the NBA. Gasol will put up monster numbers nightly. He will be defended by much smaller players most nights. There are only a handful of teams in the NBA that will be able to match up to the towers. Gasols ppg, asst, rebounds, block shots will all go up because of his height advantage over smaller players and his freedom to roam with another 7 footer in the post. What makes Pau so unique is that he can defend PF's on the perimeter as well. He is just about as complete as you can get from that position.

So when the Lakers win 3 or 4 more les and Gasol has monster stats, will he now be included in discussions on the greatest power forwards to ever play the game?

They wont...and NO.

[Spursfan092120]

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Are we sure he could?

I'm sure he couldn't.

[Spursfan092120]