Smokers at Work

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Beware: FatCancer

[whottt]

Reminds me of when I was working an election...none of these mother ers smoked. One day it was totally dead and we were doing nothing but sitting on our asses waiting for people to come into vote, they occupied their time by...eating, ing around on the internet..I would go out and smoke.

The judge got on my ass about me and told me I was taking too many breaks and I was like...hey MF, this job is the break, I am getting up off my ass to go and do something because I am tired of being on break. I can only sit on my ass in one spot for 2 hours or so doing absolutely nothing.

[ploto]

Paid smoke and lunch breaks? Damn, where do you work?

Breaks are paid at my job, but I never take them. Don't most places give you a paid 15 minute break for every 4 hours you work.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

I wouldn't doubt the addition of high fructose corn syrup in almost everything edible is just as dangerous, if not more so, than smoking.

[David Bowie]

All this talk of health insurance is getting me confused. Say I go to a specialist about twice a month and get meds. And another person from my company never goes to the doctor and never takes meds. Does my employer pay more for my health insurance then for my co-workers?

Anyone know the answer to this ?

[Strike]

#1 cause of cancer btw:

http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle...one_repla.html



Obesity is now the leading cause of cancer
BY Rosemary Black
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Thursday, September 24th 2009, 2:36 PM

GettyKeeping off the pounds isn't just good for your figure, it can help fight cancer, too. Related NewsArticlesThe warning signs of incestTylenol issues recall of children's liquid productsPregnant woman gets pregnant againWoman left on operating table is suing over no-show docsWaging war against those extra pounds just might save your life.

The leading cause of cancer these days is obesity, according to The Associated Press, with about 1 in 12 new cases of the disease due to excess weight.

European researchers say that obesity now accounts for up to 8% of cancers on the continent, according to the AP.

“Obesity is catching up at a rate that makes it possible it could become the biggest attributable cause of cancer in women within the next decade,” University of Manchester cancer expert Andrew Renehan told the AP. He spoke this week at a joint meeting of the European Society for Medical Oncology and the European Cancer Organization.

The news on this side of the pond’s not much more encouraging. Obesity and being overweight account for up to 14% of cancer deaths in men and 20% of cancer deaths in women, according to the National Cancer Ins ute. Some 20% to 30% of common cancers such as colon, postmenopausal breast, uterine and eso eal may be related to being overweight and to a lack of physical activity, according to the ins ute.

In the findings in Europe, colorectal cancer, breast cancer in menopausal women and uterine cancer accounted for 65% of all the cancers because of being overweight, according to the AP.

Though scientists don’t know why being obese increases cancer risk, they think it may be linked to hormones, according to the AP. Chubbier people produce more hormones, such as estrogen, that help tumors thrive. And big-bellied people have more stomach acid, which can lead to stomach and intestinal cancers.

Anyone who’s not sure whether or not they qualify as obese can check out the National Cancer Ins ute’s Web site. If you have a body mass index (BMI) of 18.5 to 24.9, you’re a healthy weight. Overweight people have a BMI of 25.0 to 29.9, and obese people weigh in with a BMI of 30 or higher.

The take-away message from the National Cancer Ins ute? Get moving! Lack of activity is the big culprit for why so many Americans are too fat, says the ins ute.

Sedentary pastimes like TV watching are to blame. One of the National Cancer Ins ute’s target goals for next year is to increase to 60% the proportion of adults who are at a healthy weight.

Renehan said it’s necessary to devise strategies to help people maintain a healthy weight, according to the AP. “We need to find the biological mechanism to help people find other ways of tackling obesity,” he said. “Just telling the population to lose weight obviously hasn’t worked.”

Maybe giving them some scary stats will.
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Alcohol ranks pretty highly too...so let's go ahead and start discriminating.

Whether or not it's the leading cause, smoking still causes cancer, emphysema, heart disease and other illnesses. And whether or not you miss more work than your nonsmoking co-workers, is meaningless. There are exceptions to nearly every rule. Generally, generally, smokers, fatties and drinkers miss more work due to related illness. And their related illnesses end up costing health insurers more than people who do not smoke, do not drink, and are not fat. The stats are there, dude, whether you want to believe them or not.

[katyon6th]

Breaks are paid at my job, but I never take them. Don't most places give you a paid 15 minute break for every 4 hours you work.

No, it's not required in Texas.

[BacktoBasics]

No, it's not required in Texas.

Really. I thought 15 minutes every 3 hours was the law.

[Höfner]

<-- check it.

Ida lit one up right there.

[whottt]

Whether or not it's the leading cause, smoking still causes cancer, emphysema, heart disease and other illnesses. And whether or not you miss more work than your nonsmoking co-workers, is meaningless. There are exceptions to nearly every rule. Generally, generally, smokers, fatties and drinkers miss more work due to related illness. And their related illnesses end up costing health insurers more than people who do not smoke, do not drink, and are not fat. The stats are there, dude, whether you want to believe them or not.

So, the stats also say a dark skinned person is much more likely to commit a crime than a light skinned one. I guess that's a good reason to discriminate too.


I gotta stat...for you to suck.

And like I said, I already pay a huge ing tax on every cigarette I smoke because of the increased health risk. What the is that tax for?

[Höfner]

So, the stats also say a dark skinned person is much more likely to commit a crime than a light skinned one. I guess that's a good reason to discriminate too.


I gotta stat...for you to suck.

And like I said, I already pay a huge ing tax on every cigarette I smoke because of the increased health risk. What the is that tax for?

I don't think Big Brother likes you complaining about his attempts to keep you healthy.

[katyon6th]

Really. I thought 15 minutes every 3 hours was the law.

There are no work laws in the state of Texas that require employers to give their employees any breaks whatsoever. You can be required to work a 12 hr day with no break and it's completely legal in Texas.

[Blake]

So, the stats also say a dark skinned person is much more likely to commit a crime than a light skinned one. I guess that's a good reason to discriminate too.

I didn't realize people were born with a smoking gene.

[whottt]

One of you guys please tell my ing boss to discriminate properly, I was already passed over for a promotion at one of my jobs, likely because I am a smoker...

I wish he would fully discriminate against me though...and take into account my frail health due to being a 41 year old smoker...that would mean I get to sit at stage left, stage right or the mixer at the Kiss concert tonight like all the non-smoking lardasses and women will be doing...

Instead, he will again confuse me with the 21 year old male UT students and I will likely spend the evening, standing and working the barricade.


I mean if he is going to disciminate based on my unhealthiness I wish he would do it fully. It's not like he has to worry about health benefits for me.


I've never had insurance in my entire adult life. I personally think it is for pussies unaware of the fact that we did not have it for 999999999.9999999% of our existence on this planet, and the oldest people who have yet lived never had it either. That said, I pay some huge smoker tax because of the increased health risks for smokers...I'd just like to know exactly who is getting that money since insurance companies charge extra for smoking and I'm damn sure not getting any of it back.



Everything causes ing cancer.

If you go stand outside and do nothing else, you will get cancer.

[CuckingFunt]

So, the stats also say a dark skinned person is much more likely to commit a crime than a light skinned one. I guess that's a good reason to discriminate too.

There's a pretty big difference between discrimination based on the assumption that someone is an inherently bad or violent person, and discrimination based on the statistical evidence that a person's habits can lead to increased health care concerns.

[MannyIsGod]

I love it when Whottt melts down.

[MannyIsGod]

There's a pretty big difference between discrimination based on the assumption that someone is an inherently bad or violent person, and discrimination based on the statistical evidence that a person's habits can lead to increased health care concerns.

Is there? Whottt is right that there is statistical evidence that clearly shows African Americans are far more likely to commit a crime than Anglo Americans. Its not a disputed fact.

There are of course reasons for this but I don't see how one form of discrimination is different from another if the turning point is statistical proof that there could be a negative impact upon your company.

[David Bowie]

All this talk of health insurance is getting me confused. Say I go to a specialist about twice a month and get meds. And another person from my company never goes to the doctor and never takes meds. Does my employer pay more for my health insurance then for my co-workers?
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Anybody know the answer to this?

[Höfner]

I take tons of smoke breaks all day. Got to keep my heart pumping free of blockages.

[whottt]

I didn't realize people were born with a smoking gene.

Um...you don't realize a great deal my dear Blake. My guess is that you should completely avoid any sort of discussions about genetics if you want to avoid topics which are rich in things you, do not realize.

Some people are genticially pre-dissposed to certain types of addictions based on their brain chemistry.

For instance...in my youth, I was quite fond of methamphetamine. I broke the law to consume it, I was heavily addicted to it. I was told what a s bag I was. I went to rehab and broke the addiction...then when they sent me to the doctor he diagnosed me with depression, and it is strong in my faimily history..


You know what they frequently prescribe for depression?

Adderall.


Look it up and maybe you will get the humor behind it.


PS: there most cetainly is evidence of a genetic predispostion to nicotine addiction. I am sorry you do not realize this, but if the world consisted of nothing but things you realize...there wouldn't be much to it. It'd be a Chengdeite rock and nothing else...and I am being generous.

[Höfner]

Um...you don't realize a great deal my dear Blake. My guess is that you should completely avoid any sort of discussions about genetics if you want to avoid topics which are rich in things you, do not realize.

I think he's an expert on the gay gene.

[katyon6th]

All this talk of health insurance is getting me confused. Say I go to a specialist about twice a month and get meds. And another person from my company never goes to the doctor and never takes meds. Does my employer pay more for my health insurance then for my co-workers?

No, your employer does not pay more for your health insurance then for your co-workers.

[CuckingFunt]

Is there? Whottt is right that there is statistical evidence that clearly shows African Americans are far more likely to commit a crime than Anglo Americans. Its not a disputed fact.

There are of course reasons for this but I don't see how one form of discrimination is different from another if the turning point is statistical proof that there could be a negative impact upon your company.

I think there is a difference. Regardless the statistical evidence, which does exist in both cases, one of these assumptions involves a person's character and one involves merely dollars and cents.

I will say, however, that I don't think one form of discrimination is better or more justified than the other, just that there are other factors that keep them from being analogous.

[J.T.]

You know what they frequently prescribe for depression?

Adderall.

Ahh, good ol' prescription drugs. Reminds me of when Ecstasy was legal and prescribed for 'marital problems'.

BTW I take smoke breaks at work on the reg. And at my job we're not supposed to smoke on the property. Crisis easily averted by walking across the mother ing street.

[Strike]

So, the stats also say a dark skinned person is much more likely to commit a crime than a light skinned one. I guess that's a good reason to discriminate too.


I gotta stat...for you to suck.

And like I said, I already pay a huge ing tax on every cigarette I smoke because of the increased health risk. What the is that tax for?

Discrimination based on race is illegal. Discrimination based on whether or not you smoke is not. Don't like it? Work to get the laws changed. And if you don't want to pay the cigarette taxes, either stop smoking or buy your cigarettes illegally. your choice, dude.