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    You're correct. But your employer won't pay more for you individually if you seek more care and rack up more bills. Before open enrollment, the provider will look at the company as a whole and they then determine the next year's insurance rates.
    So, the employer can see how much money you rack up for a medical bill over the year? That seems kind of fishy.....

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    sons I don't have a problem with people discriminating against smokers. I don't hire them either. 9 times out of 10 they will spend at least an hour of their day outside smoking. every hour or two they take their "5 minute smoke break" which in reality is more like 10-15 minutes completely wasted. not to mention most of them are too lazy and trashy to bother throwing the cigarette buts in a designated trash bin because its a further walk from where they like to smoke. so instead they just fill up your parking lot with the . don't hire em.
    son, me wanting to smoke a cigarette hurts no one and judges no one. On the contrary son, you people are the ones doing the judging, and starting. And the commenting.

    But son you need to realize something, son, the #1 cause of cancer son, diabetes, heart disease, early, death, missed work etc. is not smoking son, it is obesity combined with a sedentary lifestyle son. Son, smoking has been proven to help weight loss and prevent weight gain. So son while it may be considered part of the reason for the #2 cause of death, it helps prevent the main culprits behind the #1 and other leading(Alzheimers) causes of death.

    Son it also prevents or reduces the chance of getting alzheimers, parkinsons disease, breast cancer, some types of skin cancer and improves coginitive brain function, alertness and mental acuity.

    Son that whole Parkinsons and Alzheimers thing is an important one son. While the idea of spending a couple of months coughing up blood on a morphine drip may seem like an awful death to you, spending the last 10 years of your life forgotten in a nursing home hoping someone will remember to change your diaper, feed you, or pick you up off the floor, that week, and being forcibly kept alive and imprisoned in your own body when every part of it, including your mind is telling you to die because it's not going to get any better, seems like a much worse way to go out to me. But to each their own. We all gotta die of something.




    But since you went there son...let's look at the smokers vs the non-smokers.

    Since WWII(and just about all of them used tabacco, or weed sometimes even an ephedrine drink made from boiling a plant, similar to coffee, prior to WWII), these are the Presidents that have smoked tabaccy(in office), we'll call them the two termers for lack of a better term(LBJ chose not to run again):




    These are the ones that didn't, we'll call them the wallflower crew since they are either one termers, non full termers, failed to finish their second termers or two termers out of complete and total stupidity on the part of the loyal opposition:


    These are your non-smoking, healthy, non-lazy, Presidents son:




    And we all know which one Mr. Obama is btw thanks to the avatar of an imvp. I did not like Mr. Obama original stances on either Iraq or Afghanistan, I considered him to be somewhat of an asshat for having them...that said, he changed his opinion on Iraq after visiting it, and he has come to a fairly sensible conclusion on Afghanistan once he processed additional information, although his announcement of a time limit was a stupid one which he will never live up to. So on those two key issues he has taken a non-asshat stance after recieving additional information(something guys like blake and the wallflower Presidents could not do)...Jury's still out on him. Too early.

    All politics aside, one group was pretty overwhelmingly two termers(or more) due to popularity, not just within their own base, but with everyone, the second group, who are half and half, are barely even liked by their own parties.

    And yes son, Reagan was a smoker, 3 packs a day, while he was President. I'll just point out that he survived being shot(in the lung no less, at the age of 70), the only President to do so, and was the oldest President at the time of taking office and was considered to be incredibly healthy for his age. He did quit smoking, and he also got Alzheimers shortly afterwards. Still, he made it to 90 something years old despite being a 3 pack a day smoker, getting shot in his 70's and took down the commies in the process. Not too bad for a frail sickly lazy ass and stinky smoker.


    Son, you non-smokers also get this guy:


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoking_ban

    Seems ole Adolph was one of those pussies with an oversensitive nose. You sh always watch out for those guys.


    The first modern, nationwide tobacco ban was imposed by the Nazi Party in every German university, post office, military hospital, and Nazi Party office, under the au es of Karl Astel's Ins ute for Tobacco Hazards Research, created in 1941 under orders from Adolf Hitler.[24] [b]Major anti-tobacco campaigns were widely broadcast by the Nazis until the demise of the regime in 1945.[25]

    It's the Truth(dotorg) son.... So when I call you guys Nazis...it's based on fact.

    Actually, ya'll are worse....at least to start off.

    So, IMHO, if you are an anti-smoking vegetarian...I'd definitely be on the watch for Parkinsons...if I were you. And please don't run for office.


    You see...it's not insane for me to say, hey, look at that plant, I think I'll smoke it. It's insane for you to say well I am going to persecute you for doing it, not to mention tax the living out of you and tell you you stink. Oh btw, buy this much more expensive gum containing the same drug(minus the hallucinogens)

    One is clearly a huge ing asshole minding someones else business...the other is not.
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    And I'd say you don't know about genetics then.
    please explain how a Black man can change his genetic code into that of a White man.

    And at the end of the day, it will be stupid.
    na, if the chances are high that not hiring a chain smoker will save the company, then no, it will not be stupid.

    It's only stupid to smokers like you.


    I don't give a what the employer has a right to do...I am not arguing whether or not they have a right to do it.

    I am arguing about whether or not it is bigotry, and it is. Whether they have a right to do it or not.
    you've been arguing that the employer basically has a moral obligation to not discriminate against smokers which is why you've been typing the word bigot so frequently. I'm saying the employer does have the moral right to discriminate against smokers.

    For the record, you've been grossly misusing the word 'bigot'.

    Well I am sorry but it hasn't proven that all smokers are going to get sick and get lung cancer either, you stupid .
    no, but there are no healthy side effects that can be directly attributed to the act of smoking.

    Do you need me to post the link yet again that refutes the fact that beyond all shadow of a doubt smoking is hazardous to ones health?
    Feel free to post whatever links you'd like to. I'll be willing to bet the link will be easily refutable as it's common knowledge that cigarette smoke is carcinogenic........unless you are a stupid .


    No blake, you are beyond stupid. You have a bigoted mind, the same sort of mental processes that lead to people to make racial judgements on intelligence, and you are doing the exact same thing, and you are simply too stupid realize it.
    no whottt, you are misusing the word bigot and dropping the race card in a smoking thread.

    That is beyond stupid.

    I personally don't give a , your own stuopidity and tendency to generalize will make an ass of you enough to where I don't need to worry about it.
    Your own tendency to deflect the issue by directly insulting posters instead of sticking to the topic makes you an ass..... and based on the fact that you put me on ignore after your last meltdown, I'm guessing you do worry about my stuopidity.

    You will be wrong, in fact you already are, you've already been refuted, beyond all shadow of a doubt, and still you argue.
    huh? where?

    btw, you were wrong when you said "over 50% of Japanese are smokers".

    about 43% of Japanese men and about 13% of Japanese women are smokers.

    Let me know if you need the link, but if you argue that, you will be wrong.


    Let me make this clear, you will never convince me that your argument is right, intelligent or any way fair and open minded. I consider you to have the generalizing mind of a bigot, and that will never change unless you stop being a whole lost less stupid than you frequently are. So you can just stuff it...because you will not ever get me to see things as you see them.
    It's already clear to me. You smoke and you don't like it when people discriminate against smokers like you.

    I'm not trying to get you to see things as I see them. I dont really care about you personally.
    I like to debate though and I get a kick out of putting grossly opinionated, ignorant, name calling honks like you in their place......especially when they try pass off half truths as fact.

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    Saying well he's a smoker so he is going to get sick and cost me money is exactly like saying, well he's black so therefore he is going to steal.

    It is exactly the same ing thing.
    no, it really isn't.

    It would never cross my mind that if I hired David Robinson in my company that he would steal from me....

    but if he were to start smoking, I'd probably wonder if somewhere down the road if I was going to take a hit on my insurance costs.

    keep dropping the race and bigot cards though......it's like you're a kid in a candy store.

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    I didn't even have to go to my ace in this argument based on the counters I was given, which was to list off some the flat out astounding health benefits of smoking...a shame too because I actually wanted to do it. Turn everyones painted on perception on it's ear.
    don't let anyone stop you....please feel free to rattle off the astounding health benefits of smoking.

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    I went to a bowling alley the other day and it was no smoking. Are you ing kidding me? A bowling alley!
    yeah, it's about time bowling alleys become smoke free.

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    yeah, it's about time bowling alleys become smoke free.
    Bars, bowling alleys, etc. all went smoke free at the start of 2009 in Oregon. It bugged me at first but I got over it pretty quick. Now if I'm at a bar or bowling alley, I don't really notice the fact that I'm drinking but not burning a heater. If I'm out and I really want to blow a butt, I'll go outside for 5 minutes and come back in. No big deal.

    The store in which I work had a smoke room that was closed off from the rest of the break room. Now, because of the "no smoke in the workplace" laws, we all have to go outside to smoke. Once again, bugged me at first but I got over it. If it's too cold outside, I just don't bother. The amount of people who go outside and shiver while they smoke makes me laugh.

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    son, me wanting to smoke a cigarette hurts no one and judges no one. On the contrary son, you people are the ones doing the judging, and starting. And the commenting.
    no one here is judging you personally for wanting to smoke a cigarette. Katy doesn't have to hire you though for it, and I don't blame her.

    But son you need to realize something, son, the #1 cause of cancer son, diabetes, heart disease, early, death, missed work etc. is not smoking son, it is obesity combined with a sedentary lifestyle son.
    where does smoking rank in those categories?

    Son, smoking has been proven to help weight loss and prevent weight gain.
    this is what would be known as an unhealthy way to lose weight.

    So son while it may be considered part of the reason for the #2 cause of death, it helps prevent the main culprits behind the #1 and other leading(Alzheimers) causes of death.
    faulty logic, but I guess it helps you to justify your smoking habit

    Son it also prevents or reduces the chance of getting alzheimers,
    "April 16, 2008 --...In what is being lauded as a significant finding, research presented at the American Academy of Neurology's 60th Anniversary Annual Meeting this week in Chicago shows that smoking and drinking are among the most important preventable risk factors for Alzheimer's disease.....

    http://www.webmd.com/alzheimers/news...rly-alzheimers

    parkinsons disease,
    "The observation that smokeless tobacco users also have a lower risk of Parkinson's disease suggests that the most likely candidates are not compounds generated by combustion, but rather cons uents of the tobacco leaves."

    SOURCE: Neurology, March 6, 2007.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSCOL06339920070320

    breast cancer, some types of skin cancer
    With the new classification on smoking causing colorectal cancer, 17 cancers are now attributed to smoking.

    http://health.usnews.com/articles/he....html?PageNr=2

    and improves coginitive brain function, alertness and mental acuity.
    nicotine is what increases the brain function.

    Son that whole Parkinsons and Alzheimers thing is an important one son. While the idea of spending a couple of months coughing up blood on a morphine drip may seem like an awful death to you, spending the last 10 years of your life forgotten in a nursing home hoping someone will remember to change your diaper, feed you, or pick you up off the floor, that week, and being forcibly kept alive and imprisoned in your own body when every part of it, including your mind is telling you to die because it's not going to get any better, seems like a much worse way to go out to me. But to each their own. We all gotta die of something.
    so you'd apparently rather die of lung cancer or a heart attack than Parkinson's or Alzheimers.

    to each their own.



    But since you went there son...let's look at the smokers vs the non-smokers.

    Since WWII(and just about all of them used tabacco, or weed sometimes even an ephedrine drink made from boiling a plant, similar to coffee, prior to WWII), these are the Presidents that have smoked tabaccy(in office), we'll call them the two termers for lack of a better term(LBJ chose not to run again):




    These are the ones that didn't, we'll call them the wallflower crew since they are either one termers, non full termers, failed to finish their second termers or two termers out of complete and total stupidity on the part of the loyal opposition:


    These are your non-smoking, healthy, non-lazy, Presidents son:




    And we all know which one Mr. Obama is btw thanks to the avatar of an imvp. I did not like Mr. Obama original stances on either Iraq or Afghanistan, I considered him to be somewhat of an asshat for having them...that said, he changed his opinion on Iraq after visiting it, and he has come to a fairly sensible conclusion on Afghanistan once he processed additional information, although his announcement of a time limit was a stupid one which he will never live up to. So on those two key issues he has taken a non-asshat stance after recieving additional information(something guys like blake and the wallflower Presidents could not do)...Jury's still out on him. Too early.

    All politics aside, one group was pretty overwhelmingly two termers(or more) due to popularity, not just within their own base, but with everyone, the second group, who are half and half, are barely even liked by their own parties.

    And yes son, Reagan was a smoker, 3 packs a day, while he was President. I'll just point out that he survived being shot(in the lung no less, at the age of 70), the only President to do so, and was the oldest President at the time of taking office and was considered to be incredibly healthy for his age. He did quit smoking, and he also got Alzheimers shortly afterwards. Still, he made it to 90 something years old despite being a 3 pack a day smoker, getting shot in his 70's and took down the commies in the process. Not too bad for a frail sickly lazy ass and stinky smoker.
    well by God, if the good presidents were all smokers then why the don't we stick a picture of joe camel on our currency instead of some weird pyramid with an eye?


    Son, you non-smokers also get this guy:


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoking_ban

    Seems ole Adolph was one of those pussies with an oversensitive nose. You sh always watch out for those guys.


    The first modern, nationwide tobacco ban was imposed by the Nazi Party in every German university, post office, military hospital, and Nazi Party office, under the au es of Karl Astel's Ins ute for Tobacco Hazards Research, created in 1941 under orders from Adolf Hitler.[24] [b]Major anti-tobacco campaigns were widely broadcast by the Nazis until the demise of the regime in 1945.[25]

    It's the Truth(dotorg) son.... So when I call you guys Nazis...it's based on fact.

    Actually, ya'll are worse....at least to start off.
    first it's the race card, then the bigot card, then the POTUS card, and now the Nazi card....

    seriously, what's left?

    You see...it's not insane for me to say, hey, look at that plant, I think I'll smoke it. It's insane for you to say well I am going to persecute you for doing it, not to mention tax the living out of you and tell you you stink. Oh btw, buy this much more expensive gum containing the same drug(minus the hallucinogens)
    smokers do stink and you won't get taxed if you grow your own tobacco.

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    first it's the race card, then the bigot card, then the POTUS card, and now the Nazi card....

    seriously, what's left?
    Non-Admiral fans

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    please explain how a Black man can change his genetic code into that of a White man.
    Because there's no such thing as a white genetic code or a black genetic code and if you had even a cursory knowledge of genetics you would understand that.

    There is no racial genetic code and any attempts to create a criteria for one would result in all non-blacks and a lot of blacks being classified as one race, and like 200 different black races. You could have two Africans that live 5 miles apart that are identical in physical appearance classified as different races.

    All races have differences in skin tone and facial features and hair type within the race, at the gentic level, it's not that blacks all look alike or orientals all look alike, it's that we all look alike.

    You see, idiot, I can tell you have only a rudimentary knowledge of genetics and have never been remotely close to a genetics class in your life. I can tell this by the way you posed the question, I know I'm right, and I'm calling you an idiot while I'm making the correct assessment, not because you asked a clever question, but because you asked one that reveals beyond all doubt you have little or no understanding of how it works and think you can subs ute willfull obstinance in it's place. And you will never be able to do so.

    I don't anticipate you will stop doing this anytime soon...so more than likely you will continue to be called an idiot by me, for that reason.

    There is no such thing as a racial genetic code, the concept of race was not born from science, but rather some idiots that extrapolated a bunch of non-physical differences into differences in skin tone and facial features.



    na, if the chances are high that not hiring a black will save the company, then no, it will not be stupid.

    It's only stupid to blacks like you
    I changed one word...this is where you apply different and inequal standards to smokers and minorities to prove how unbigoted you are blake...go ahead, do it. Apply those different standards.



    you've been arguing that the employer basically has a moral obligation to not discriminate against smokers which is why you've been typing the word bigot so frequently. I'm saying the employer does have the moral right to discriminate against smokers.

    For the record, you've been grossly misusing the word 'bigot'.
    For the record you idiot, I've made no arguments of moral obligations to hire anyone, you're just an idiot. Who doesn't know what a moral obligation is, or what I am arguing, and thinks he does.


    no, but there are no healthy side effects that can be directly attributed to the act of smoking.
    Oh yes there are.


    Feel free to post whatever links you'd like to. I'll be willing to bet the link will be easily refutable as it's common knowledge that cigarette smoke is carcinogenic........unless you are a stupid .
    Good god you are seriously without a doubt the stupidest person on this forum.


    no whottt, you are misusing the word bigot and dropping the race card in a smoking thread.
    I am not misusing the word bigot, and I'm not dropping the race card. You are just stupid.

    That is beyond
    stupid.
    No, you are beyond stupid.


    Your own tendency to deflect the issue by directly insulting posters instead of sticking to the topic makes you an ass
    Oh I'm sticking to the topic, and I'm insulting you. I'm not insulting you because of the challenging arguments you present, I'm insulting you because you are ing stupid. I'm right, while I'm insulting you.

    It may not seem fair but hey...we aren't all equal, some of us better than others.


    ..... and based on the fact that you put me on ignore after your last meltdown, I'm guessing you do worry about my stuopidity.
    Dude, there is nothing special about you being on my ignore list. There are lots of idiots just like you on my ignore list. You're about as rare as hydrogen. As are these types of arguments between myself and those types of individuals.

    huh? where?

    btw, you were wrong when you said "over 50% of Japanese are smokers".

    about 43% of Japanese men and about 13% of Japanese women are smokers.

    Let me know if you need the link, but if you argue that, you will be wrong.
    Maybe I should do what you do and post a totally unrelated link and stupidly think I have countered something you said?

    Nah, only a ing idiot does something like that, so instead I'll just say, my bad, I got the PCT's wrong. Damn that was difficult. See how a non-stupid person deals with that blake? I hope you were paying close attention.



    It's already clear to me. You smoke and you don't like it when people discriminate against smokers like you.

    Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo! What was your first clue? The part where I said I smoke and don't like it when people discriminate against smokers like me?

    Amazingly enough, very few people do like being discriminated against.

    Believe it or not blake, fat people don't like it, gay people don't like it, women don't like it, blacks don't like it...

    And based on your reaction in this thread, stupid people don't like it either.

    I'm not trying to get you to see things as I see them. I dont really care about you personally.
    Then never post another response to me again. Prove it or shut up. You keep posting to me even though you are ingnore telling me how little you care...you prove it.

    I like to debate though
    You don't have the ingelligence to engage in a debate, you are too stupid to do so. You simply attribute postions someone doesn't have to them, like that I am arguing someone has a moral obligation, and post meaningless links like an article on coronary heart disease that mentions nothing next to nothing about lung cancer and nothing at all about smoking, in response to a statement made about smoking and lung cancer, and you are evidentally too stupid to realize you do that.

    And you do it all the time Blake. Because you are a ing idiot.


    and I get a kick out of putting grossly opinionated, ignorant, name calling honks like you in their place
    But you're too ing stupid to put anyone in their place Blake, you just don't realize it. Which is why you get called stupid.


    ......especially when they try pass off half truths as fact.
    What half truths have I attempted to pass off as fact? You're the one telling me I am arguing that somone has a moral obligation to hire someone.

    You realize you attributed that position to me when I said very clearly that someone should be able to hire or not hire whoever they want, in fact I totally defended the right to bigoted hiring processes, it's the stupidity behind doing so, and the refusal to admit it is discrimination and bigotry I am speaking out on...and like that is why I call you stupid blake. Not for any other reasons involving your capacity to present a challenging question. You are the one using half truths...in fact you use total non-truths and totally irrelevant links.
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    no one here is judging you personally for wanting to smoke a cigarette.
    False...

    Katy doesn't have to hire you though for it, and I don't blame her.
    Link to me saying she did? Idiot?


    where does smoking rank in those categories?
    It doesn't, because smoking in and of itself doesn't cause death.


    this is what would be known as an unhealthy way to lose weight.
    Yet still healthier than the condition itself. What's your next great insight, that radiation treatement is the unhealthy way to treat cancer?


    faulty logic, but I guess it helps you to justify your smoking habit



    "April 16, 2008 --...In what is being lauded as a significant finding, research presented at the American Academy of Neurology's 60th Anniversary Annual Meeting this week in Chicago shows that smoking and drinking are among the most important preventable risk factors for Alzheimer's disease.....

    http://www.webmd.com/alzheimers/news...rly-alzheimers


    "The observation that smokeless tobacco users also have a lower risk of Parkinson's disease suggests that the most likely candidates are not compounds generated by combustion, but rather cons uents of the tobacco leaves."

    SOURCE: Neurology, March 6, 2007.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSCOL06339920070320
    So like I was saying, smoking tobacco prevents Parkinson's disease, thanks for the link, but it really wasn't necessary, I already knew that. In fact I the told you that. And I am betting you were totally unaware of it prior to me doing so...


    With the new classification on smoking causing colorectal cancer, 17 cancers are now attributed to smoking.

    http://health.usnews.com/articles/he....html?PageNr=2

    Link to me saying smoking isn't linked to any cancer? I said nothing of the kind. Why did you post an irrelevant link blake? You do that all time you idiot. It's the main reason why I call you an idiot.


    nicotine is what increases the brain function.
    Nooooooooooooo? ing seriously? Damn, and to think all these years I've been thinking it's smoking cow that does it.


    so you'd apparently rather die of lung cancer or a heart attack than Parkinson's or Alzheimers.

    to each their own.
    Yes, which is why I said to each their own.

    I don't see much purpose in continuing to live when my brain is gone, otoh I can see why that wouldn't have much of an impact on you at all.




    well by God, if the good presidents were all smokers then why the don't we stick a picture of joe camel on our currency instead of some weird pyramid with an eye?
    Because that would be ing stupid. Nontheless, all the good Presidents were smokers.



    first it's the race card, then the bigot card, then the POTUS card, and now the Nazi card....

    seriously, what's left?


    You left out the you are a ing idiot card, Nazi.

    smokers do stink
    Depends on whether or not you find the smell offensive. Some people in fact love the smell.


    And I know plenty of non-smokers that I think ing stink, no smoke needed.


    and you won't get taxed if you grow your own tobacco.
    No, I will however continue to be discriminated against by bigoged Nazi idiots though. Too stupid to realize they are bigoted Nazi diots.
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    no, it really isn't.

    It would never cross my mind that if I hired David Robinson in my company that he would steal from me....
    Oh well I am sure a klansman wouldn't think twice about hiring a white guy over a black guy and it would never cross his mind that the white guy might steal from him.

    I guess that means the klansman is not a bigot.

    Goddman you are a ing idiot.

    but if he were to start smoking, I'd probably wonder if somewhere down the road if I was going to take a hit on my insurance costs.
    So fire him because he started smoking blake. You totally have the right to be a bigot and punish an innocent man that may otherwise be an exceptional employee who makes 10 times more money for you than he costs in insurance, for actions of an insurance company. Replace him with a non-smoker, who might miss steal, miss work, and destroy your company, but hey he's a nonsmoker so therefore he's better. Do it...

    Be proud of it.

    Because it's so ing intelligent.




    keep dropping the race and bigot cards though......it's like you're a kid in a candy store.
    Keep being totally unaware of your bigoted(stupid) thought processes...and I will.
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    whottt is smoking and thinking he has benefits in health out of it


    Also smokers discrimination?
    gmafb


    in smokers thinks they can admire me by spoiling my air.

    And playing this 'stay away then' card?
    WTF? You are here interfering me not the other way!

    And then if you compare smokers to gays and obesse? You are wrong.

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    You can’t smoke indoors in Cali & you can’t ask an applicant if they smoke…(At least where I work)……Many of our clients smoke, so in our newest building we have made brandy & cigar lounges with big screen TV’s & out door fire places…

    Some people spend more time in the lounge smoking cigars & drinking brandy than they do indoors supervising their projects….It has been one of the smartest things we have done to incorporate a relaxed environment for our clients…

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    You can’t smoke indoors in Cali & you can’t ask an applicant if they smoke…(At least where I work)……Many of our clients smoke, so in our newest building we have made brandy & cigar lounges with big screen TV’s & out door fire places…

    Some people spend more time in the lounge smoking cigars & drinking brandy than they do indoors supervising their projects….It has been one of the smartest things we have done to incorporate a relaxed environment for our clients…
    Why do not obesse have their place with tv and eating? /sarcasm

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    s smoke

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    Because there's no such thing as a white genetic code or a black genetic code and if you had even a cursory knowledge of genetics you would understand that.
    even someone like me with less than a cursory knowledge of genetics knows that "genes influence skin color".

    In your obvious genetic expert opinion, is the quoted statement true or false?

    There is noracial genetic code and any attempts to create a criteria for one would result in all non-blacks and a lot of blacks being classified as one race, and like 200 different black races. You could have two Africans that live 5 miles apart that are identical in physical appearance classified as different races.

    All races have differences in skin tone and facial features and hair type within the race, at the gentic level, it's not that blacks all look alike or orientals all look alike, it's that we all look alike.

    You see, idiot, I can tell you have only a rudimentary knowledge of genetics and have never been remotely close to a genetics class in your life. I can tell this by the way you posed the question, I know I'm right, and I'm calling you an idiot while I'm making the correct assessment, not because you asked a clever question, but because you asked one that reveals beyond all doubt you have little or no understanding of how it works and think you can subs ute willfull obstinance in it's place. And you will never be able to do so.

    I don't anticipate you will stop doing this anytime soon...so more than likely you will continue to be called an idiot by me, for that reason.

    There is no such thing as a racial genetic code, the concept of race was not born from science, but rather some idiots that extrapolated a bunch of non-physical differences into differences in skin tone and facial features.
    I can tell you you have a little more than a rudimentary knowledge of reading comprehension since I never brought up the word "race."

    You did that all on your own, jeenyus.

    I changed one word...this is where you apply different and inequal standards to smokers and minorities to prove how unbigoted you are blake...go ahead, do it. Apply those different standards.
    The difference for one, is that you can quit being a smoker. A Black person cannot quit being Black.

    but then you are indirectly claiming you are smarter than me in genetics so if it's possible for some people to be born with a cigarette attached to their lips, let me know.


    For the record you idiot, I've made no arguments of moral obligations to hire anyone, you're just an idiot. Who doesn't know what a moral obligation is, or what I am arguing, and thinks he does.
    so to be clear, you are saying it's ok then for an employer to not hire a smoker because of insurance concerns as long as that same employer is consistent and doesn't hire Blacks for fear they might steal?

    Oh yes there are.
    No there aren't. Smoke in and of itself has no health benefits.

    Good god you are seriously without a doubt the stupidest person on this forum.
    you are without a doubt one of the most entertaining.

    I am not misusing the word bigot, and I'm not dropping the race card. You are just stupid.
    Yes you are. Discrimination is not the same thing as bigotry.

    You just changed one word "smoker" to "Black", remember? It's actually right here on this page.

    You are just forgetful.

    No, you are beyond stupid.

    Oh I'm sticking to the topic, and I'm insulting you. I'm not insulting you because of the challenging arguments you present, I'm insulting you because you are ing stupid. I'm right, while I'm insulting you.

    It may not seem fair but hey...we aren't all equal, some of us better than others.
    it's like you are a kid in a candy store!

    Dude, there is nothing special about you being on my ignore list. There are lots of idiots just like you on my ignore list. You're about as rare as hydrogen. As are these types of arguments between myself and those types of individuals.
    Na, when a person has to stoop down to directly and incessantly insulting people and putting other posters on their ignore list, it means they are getting owned. Just my opinion.

    Maybe I should do what you do and post a totally unrelated link and stupidly think I have countered something you said?

    Nah, only a ing idiot does something like that, so instead I'll just say, my bad, I got the PCT's wrong. Damn that was difficult. See how a non-stupid person deals with that blake? I hope you were paying close attention.
    You got some PCT facts wrong which throws your argument off a bit more.

    I paid very close attention to that.

    Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo! What was your first clue? The part where I said I smoke and don't like it when people discriminate against smokers like me?
    Right, that was my first clue.

    Amazingly enough, very few people do like being discriminated against.

    Believe it or not blake, fat people don't like it, gay people don't like it, women don't like it, blacks don't like it...
    True, very few people like to be discriminated against. They usually get pissy.

    And based on your reaction in this thread, stupid people don't like it either.
    na, I'm not pissy and dropping bigot bombs like you.

    Then never post another response to me again. Prove it or shut up. You keep posting to me even though you are ingnore telling me how little you care...you prove it.
    Posting to responses on a general message board hardly qualifies as me caring about you.......no matter how much you might wish I did.

    You don't have the ingelligence to engage in a debate, you are too stupid to do so. You simply attribute postions someone doesn't have to them, like that I am arguing someone has a moral obligation, and post meaningless links like an article on coronary heart disease that mentions nothing next to nothing about lung cancer and nothing at all about smoking, in response to a statement made about smoking and lung cancer, and you are evidentally too stupid to realize you do that.
    you being the jeenyus and all, I figured you would know there is a link to smoking and a myriad of health problems beyond lung cancer.

    A population-based prospective cohort study of 19782 men and 21500 women aged 40–59 years between 1990–1992 and 2001 was conducted to examine the relationship between smoking status and the risk of coronary heart disease (CHD).

    Results
    A total of 260 incidences of CHD were confirmed among men, including 174 myocardial infarctions (MI). The numbers among women were 66 and 43, respectively. The multivariate relative risk [95% confidence interval (CI)] for current smokers versus never-smokers in men after adjustment for cardiovascular risk factors, several life style factors and public health centre was 2.85 (1.98, 4.12) for total CHD and 3.64 (2.27, 5.83) for MI. These respective risks in women were 3.07 (1.48, 6.40) and 2.90 (1.18, 7.18). Among men, a dose-dependent relationship was observed between the number of cigarettes and the risk of MI. The population-attributable risk per cent (95% CI) of CHD was 46% (34, 55) in men and 9% (0, 18) in women. Smoking cessation, however, led to a rapid decline in the CHD risk within 2 years.

    Conclusion
    Smoking raises the risk of CHD significantly in both sexes of middle-aged Japanese, with large public health significance especially in men. Smoking cessation would have an immediate effect on risk reduction.


    http://www.escardiocontent.org/perio...210-0/abstract
    you really don't know how to connect dots, do you.


    But you're too ing stupid to put anyone in their place Blake, you just don't realize it. Which is why you get called stupid.
    eh. I may or may not be book smarter than you. It doesn't really matter. In cases like this, I let real experts and web links put posters like you in their place.

    What half truths have I attempted to pass off as fact? You're the one telling me I am arguing that somone has a moral obligation to hire someone.
    "Smoking has healthy attributes" is a half truth.

    You realize you attributed that position to me when I said very clearly that someone should be able to hire or not hire whoever they want, in fact I totally defended the right to bigoted hiring processes, it's the stupidity behind doing so, and the refusal to admit it is discrimination and bigotry I am speaking out on...and like that is why I call you stupid blake. Not for any other reasons involving your capacity to present a challenging question. You are the one using half truths...in fact you use total non-truths and totally irrelevant links.


    you said it's the stupidity and the refusal to admit it's discrimination and bigotry.....

    if there is no moral obligation involved and the odds are that a smoker or a Black person will cost you money down the road, how exactly is it stupid?

    I'll be paying close attention to your response.
    Last edited by Blake; 12-07-2009 at 04:00 PM.

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    So, my client made an offer to one of my candidates this afternoon and she accepted. She starts 12/14. And she's black.

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    Oh well I am sure a klansman wouldn't think twice about hiring a white guy over a black guy and it would never cross his mind that the white guy might steal from him.

    I guess that means the klansman is not a bigot.

    Goddman you are a ing idiot.
    klansman are usually always bigoted.

    Not hiring a smoker is discriminatory.

    Goddman you really don't have a dictionary, do you?

    So fire him because he started smoking blake. You totally have the right to be a bigot and punish an innocent man that may otherwise be an exceptional employee who makes 10 times more money for you than he costs in insurance, for actions of an insurance company. Replace him with a non-smoker, who might miss steal, miss work, and destroy your company, but hey he's a nonsmoker so therefore he's better. Do it...

    Be proud of it.

    Because it's so ing intelligent.

    If he has proven he makes 10 times more money than what he costs in insurance, then why do you want to fire him and replace him with a non-smoker than might not make that 2 times what he costs in insurance?

    You're not very good at math.

    Keep being totally unaware of your bigoted(stupid) thought processes...and I will.
    I'm fairly certain you will drop the race card again.

    I'm also fairly certain you will still say that not hiring a smoker is bigotry.

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    There is no way I'd spend that much time using all those quote tags.

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    There is no way I'd spend that much time using all those quote tags.
    yeah, the work/reward factor really just isn't there to justify doing it any more in a thread like this.

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    So, my client made an offer to one of my candidates this afternoon and she accepted. She starts 12/14. And she's black.
    No can be !

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    So, my client made an offer to one of my candidates this afternoon and she accepted. She starts 12/14. And she's black.



    lol.

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