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Then you have made my point.
not sure, but if they might pose a threat to our environment then I would say we need to deal with them appropriately. If that ultimately means a ban on them in residential neighborhoods, I've got no problem with that.
I don't, however, see the point in banning cats or dogs that are not known to kill people.
Then you have made my point.
Private ownership of said property determines what the property is meant for. That has been superceded. Laws that ban smoking in establishments that require an adult age limit (18 or 21) are proof positive that yo do not own your property, you mearly lease it from the moral conscience and corporate power struggle.
The smoking ban is a compe ion between two industries, the insurance and tobacco industries. One has far more clout and influence now than the other.
Moreover, if government cared about your health as you think they do, then they'd ban it outright like they did alcohol. But that would eliminate a billion dollar industry that still has at least a shred of power left in government.
No, this isnt about health issues. This is about the expansion of power for government and special interests groups with enough money to sick the attack dogs.
But I quit smoking three weeks ago, so really, I dont care. Doesnt change the fact that its just more of the same from the pro-government crowd.
It's nice to read someone who doesn't invest so much ego in their posts that they feel incapable of revising their opinion. Props
Byrontx,
I agree, it's good that you are willing to pull away from a total ban. I agree that certain things do need to be regulated, but I also do believe in more control for each state and less big government control. Florida already has some really good laws in the books on the "big five" snakes, they just need to enforce those. The U.S. government has much bigger problems to deal with, leave stuff like this to the states that are affected. I believe that if a person can prove that they have the proper knowledge and caging, they should be allowed to have any snake that they want. Burmese pythons, reticulated pythons, anacondas, these snakes are a handful and not for beginners. But they are amazing animals and are a blast to have as pets if you are ready for them and know what to expect. I've had burmese pythons off and on over the years, and I love them as pets. They're fascinating animals, but not something that should be easily obtained through a pet shop to someone who is "green" on the subject.
Banning all of these snakes won't help the everglades. What's done is done. What banning them would do is alienate and hurt the very best resource the Everglades has in how to combat the burmese issue, the very people who care for these animals for a living. The most knowledgeable people on the subject haven't really been tapped for help. If the government is willing to work with the industry together, we can all come up with the best solution to fight the problem.
Banning them also won't really do anything for the rest of the states either. The rest of the states already have the best thing on their side: climate and terrain. The 'glades is a perfect place for these animals to thrive, but there really isn't another place like that in the lower 48. Once temps drop down to the low 60's and 50's, pythons and boas start to have tons of problems. Not so much if it's very quick, but if it's nightly, the animals can't really last all that long. I have tons of problems if my room gets too low in temp, and I'm not talking about freezing temps either.
Right now, according to the latest on the bill (S373), my ball pythons will be unaffected. It's just my boa collection. The stupid thing, though, is that there has never EVER been a case of a boa constrictor killing a person in the U.S.A. NEVER! I'll be able to keep them, but I won't be able to sell them across state lines. I think I could breed them, unless Texas changes it's mind. Cutting off interstate commerce destroys my snakes values. I don't know how much they're all worth now, but the potential offspring values is where I lose most. Thousands. Tens of thousands.
To answer the question on the ball python prices: Kingsnake.com classifieds has the most current prices. It's kinda like the eBay for snakes. I produce stuff that runs anywhere from 10 bucks each up to a few thousand each. Depends on the animal's color and pattern. For example, albino ball pythons go for around 400 bucks.
Just so you know who you're arguing with:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoking_ban
The first modern, nationwide tobacco ban was imposed by the Nazi Party in every German university, post office, military hospital, and Nazi Party office, under the au es of Karl Astel's Ins ute for Tobacco Hazards Research, created in 1941 under orders from Adolf Hitler.[24] Major anti-tobacco campaigns were widely broadcast by the Nazis until the demise of the regime in 1945.[25]
Congress again, at it's finest.
When will people learn to stop electing the morons who want to infringe of our God given rights?
Genesis 1:28:
And God blessed them: and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
Him and I argued about this (i think) last year. He doesnt seem to want to admit that a smoking ban is, in fact, an assault on the rights of adults everywhere only because this assault is something that pleases him personally as a non-smoker.
Last edited by DarkReign; 12-13-2009 at 05:32 PM.
so being able to blow your carcenogenic second hand smoke in a public place makes you more American.
Just so everyone knows who I'm arguing with.
How is keeping polluted air out of a public place "an assault on the rights of adults everywhere"?
smokers are funny.
thanks for stating your agenda.
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