Arenas suspended indefinitely

[DPG21920]

How can you tell if a friend or someone is lying to you DOK?

[PGDynasty24]

man my fantasy team is officially screwed

[XFactor]

so you're saying him bringing his gun into the locker room to "joke with his teammates" is a more likely scenario than bringing his gun into the locker room to get it away from his kids.

Obviously it would be Gilbert Arenas best interest to use the KIDS excuse rather than the joking excuse But do we know for sure that was the case No, Do we know if Gilbert Arenas is lying or not? No My opinion obviously does not matter but I think Gilbert brought the gun in as a joke and not to hide it from his kids.

The way Gilbert is reacting to this whole situation by joking about it makes seem more likely that his intentions were to joke with the Crittendon and not for the benefit of his kids. As mentioned it it was for the best of his kids he would have thought about that before purchasing the gun.

[Agloco]

Section 9. Firearms.
(a) Whenever a player is physically present at a facility or venue owned, operated, or being used by a Team, the NBA, or any League-related en y, and whenever a player is traveling on any NBA-related business, whether on behalf of the player’s Team, the NBA, or any League-related en y, such player shall not possess a firearm of any kind. For purposes of the foregoing, “a facility or venue” includes, but is not limited to: an arena; a practice facility; a Team or League office or facility; an All-Star or NBA Playoff venue; and the site of a promotional or charitable appearance.

(b) Any violation of Section 9(a) above shall be considered conduct prejudicial to the NBA under Article 35(d) of the NBA Cons ution and By-Laws, and shall therefore subject the player to discipline by the NBA in accordance with such Article.

http://www.nbpa.com/cba_articles/art...I.php#section4

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[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

1) Why not buy a safe the same day you get a gun?

2) Why all of the sudden were the kids a concern? Was there not kids when he purchased the guns? Or did they just pop up out of no where?

3) Why not ask permission to store the guns knowing full well there could be an issue? Wouldn't most people err on the side of caution?

Just for the of it.

1) Because he bought the gun as something to keep by his bed side not thinking about his kids reaching them, it's a stupid mistake to make but it's possible.

2) One of his kids managed to find the gun, and Gilbert didn't really think the whole thing through, he went with the first idea that popped into his head.

3) From how he has acted and what he said, I don't think he knew full well there could be an issue.

[DPG21920]

Also, LMFAO that in the gun part of the rules for the NBA it mentions charity events

[PM5K]

[ginobili's bald spot]

Dramatization of the Arenas incident:

Perfect.

[milkshakeballa]

5.CONDUCT.
(a) The Player agrees to observe and comply with all Team rules, as maintained or promulgated in accordance with the CBA, at all times whether on or off the playing floor.



(b) The Player agrees: (i) to give his best services, as well as his loyalty, to the Team, and to play basketball only for the Team and its assignees; (ii) to be neatly and fully attired in public; (iii) to conduct himself on and off the court according to the highest standards of honesty, citizenship, and sportsmanship; and (iv) not to do anything that is materially detrimental or materially prejudicial to the best interests of the Team or the League.



(d) In addition to the foregoing, and subject to the conditions and limitations set forth in Article II, Section 8 of the CBA, the Player agrees to participate, upon request, in all other reasonable promotional activities of the Team, the NBA, and any League-related en y. For each such promotional appearance made on behalf of a commercial sponsor of the Team, the Team agrees to pay the Player $2,500 or, if the Team agrees, such higher amount that is consistent with the Team’s past practice and not otherwise unreasonable.


16.TERMINATION.
(a) The Team may terminate this Contract upon written notice to the Player if the Player shall:
(i) at any time, fail, refuse, or neglect to conform his personal conduct to standards of good citizenship, good moral character (defined here to mean not engaging in acts of moral turpitude, whether or not such acts would cons ute a crime), and good sportsmanship, to keep himself in first class physical condition, or to obey the Team’s training rules;

Good mogove.. This is the first time I've ever liekd you on this forum!

[DPG21920]

Just for the of it.

1) Because he bought the gun as something to keep by his bed side not thinking about his kids reaching them, it's a stupid mistake to make but it's possible.

2) One of his kids managed to find the gun, and Gilbert didn't really think the whole thing through, he went with the first idea that popped into his head.

3) From how he has acted and what he said, I don't think he knew full well there could be an issue.

1) If that is true, why then would it be a concern all of the sudden?

2) So it is his fault and he thought that bringing it to the arena was better than getting a safe?

3) Who in their right mind honestly can say they don't know if bringing a gun to an arena is an issue?

[Cane]

so you're saying him bringing his gun into the locker room to "joke with his teammates" is a more likely scenario than bringing his gun into the locker room to get it away from his kids.

Arenas already confessed he used those weapons as a joke in addition to the reason of taking them away from his home. The only alleged part is him pointing it against a teammate.

[mogrovejo]

Until it is picked apart he's done nothing wrong.

He brought guns to the arena. That's wrong. He violated his pledge. He even apologized for it.

[DPG21920]

Arenas already confessed he used those weapons as a joke in addition to the reason of taking them away from his home.

Exactly That is why I don't get why DOK is using one portion of what Gilbert said (the kids, ohhhhh the kids) to help his argument and then ignoring the contradiction that Arenas himself said (I brought them as a joke)

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

1) If that is true, why then would it be a concern all of the sudden?

2) So it is his fault and he thought that bringing it to the arena was better than getting a safe?

3) Who in their right mind honestly can say they don't know if bringing a gun to an arena is an issue?

1) The thought if his kids getting to the guns didn't even cross his mind until one of them did, then it suddenly became an issue. Already said this.

2) He went with the first idea that popped into his head and didn't really think it through. Again, already said this.

3) The same person who can be federally investigated for bringing the gun to the arena and do nothing other than joke about it.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

"As I have said before, I had kept the four unloaded handguns in my house in Virginia, but then moved them over to my locker at the Verizon Center to keep them away from my young kids. I brought them without any ammunition into the District of Columbia, mistakenly believing that the recent change in the DC gun laws allowed a person to store unloaded guns in the District.
Joke or not, I now recognize that what I did was a mistake and was wrong. I should not have brought the guns to DC in the first place, and I now realize that there’s no such thing as joking around when it comes to guns — even if unloaded."

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/sport...-80824477.html

I don't see him say be brought the guns as a joke. Maybe there's another interview everyone is talking about, but I interpret that quote as him referencing the jokes he made about the situation.

[mogrovejo]

Good mogove.. This is the first time I've ever liekd you on this forum!

Who are you?

[DPG21920]

If I was a cop and you gave me those answers, I would shred you Hannibal Lector style.

"So, Mr. Arenas, you say you brought the guns to keep them away from the kids?"

"Yes sir."

"Well then why did you first say you brought them to play a joke on a teammate?"

"Ummm. Think about the kids, the kiddds"

"You mean the kids that have been there from the beginning, even before you bought the guns?"

"Yes sir."

"I want the truth"

"I don't know what that is "

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Yeah so I didn't see this part:

Arenas has denied that, calling the incident a "misguided effort to play a joke" on a teammate.

That is someone who should be suspended.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

If I was a cop and you gave me those answers, I would shred you Hannibal Lector style.

"So, Mr. Arenas, you say you brought the guns to keep them away from the kids?"

"Yes sir."

"Well then why did you first say you brought them to play a joke on a teammate?"

"Ummm. Think about the kids, the kiddds"

"You mean the kids that have been there from the beginning, even before you bought the guns?"

"Yes sir."

"I want the truth"

"I don't know what that is "

Um, I don't understand why you left out the explanations I gave and put that together, but alright.

[DPG21920]

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...tories_section
WASHINGTON — Washington Wizards star Gilbert Arenas says he took unloaded guns from his locker in a "misguided effort to play a joke" on a teammate.

Arenas released a written statement Monday after meeting with law enforcement officials. And Arenas' lawyer says the player voluntarily met with prosecutors and detectives and answered every question during a two-hour interview.

In his statement, Arenas repeated his earlier assertion that he brought four guns to the Verizon Center to store in his locker in order to get them out of his house and away from his children. He said he mistakenly believed that recent changes in D.C. law made it legal for him to store guns there.

Arenas said he took the unloaded guns out of his locker on Dec. 21 "in a misguided effort to play a joke on a teammate." He denied threatening anyone. The New York Post has reported that Arenas and teammate Javaris Crittenton drew guns on each other.

"Joke or not, I now recognize that what I did was a mistake and was wrong," Arenas said. "I should not have brought the guns to DC in the first place, and I now realize that there's no such thing as joking around when it comes to guns — even if unloaded."

[DPG21920]

I don't get why you can argue about something and not know the facts. Your explanations where based on what Arenas had already said.

[redzero]

That doesn't change the fact I was doing a lot more than arguing for the of it.

Think about it, what other possible reason could he have for bringing an unloaded weapon to the Wizards locker room? If he wanted to do anything malicious with it, it would have been loaded.

But that's really irrelevant. What kind of workplace let's somebody have guns out in the open like that? None.

[DPG21920]

Or a bounty hunter.

[DPG21920]

Or a bank guard.

[DPG21920]

Or an airline pilot.