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  1. #226
    The Dude minds DPG21920's Avatar
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    Or a sheriff.

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    So DPG, regardless of the fact this whole argument was for nothing, you don't think this is a reasonable explanation:

    In 2007, Gilbert Arenas sees Sean Taylor is killed by home invaders. He panics, acts on impulse without really thinking about the responsibilities of owning guns and what precautionary measures to take, and goes out and get 4 guns to keep by his bed and around the house in the event of a home invasion. 2 years later, one of his kids is big enough to get to where he has one of the guns. He sees one of his kids gets to a gun, never having thought about that possibility before, so like he had done in the past, he panics and acts on impulse as someone with zero education about being a gun owner (or a gun owner in the NBA), bringing all 4 guns to the arena without having thought about NBA rules against that or alternatively just buying a safe. As someone who has no idea about the seriousness involving guns, he thinks this is some stupid thing he can joke about and the worst that will happen is a slap on the wrist.

    IMO, this situation makes perfect sense, it's someone who repeatedly acts impulsively and never thinks about the consequences of his actions.

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    Arenas:

    "Joke or not, I now recognize that what I did was a mistake and was wrong. I should not have brought the guns to DC in the first place, and I now realize that there’s no such thing as joking around when it comes to guns — even if unloaded."


    I don't see him say be brought the guns as a joke. Maybe there's another interview everyone is talking about, but I interpret that quote as him referencing the jokes he made about the situation.
    Seriously?

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    I don't get why you can argue about something and not know the facts.

    Like you weren't doing the same thing.

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    Well, good, he got what he deserved.


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    That quote could easily mean that this suspension made him realize that this situation is nothing to joke about. Regardless, the other quote I posted would have helped your argument a lot more.

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    Like you weren't doing the same thing.
    He wasn't.

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    IMO, this situation makes perfect sense, it's someone who repeatedly acts impulsively and never thinks about the consequences of his actions.
    Someone like that should NEVER have a gun and if he does should be punished immediately.

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    Dirst o all, everyone knows that he brought guuns to this workplace, check.Didn't help he was an established NBA star. His image is now portrayed as a punk and a thug. We all know the NBA does not like thugs. To save the image of the league and to protect the league from the political side of things, Stern suspended Arenas not only to save the league some face, but also to set an example for all his other athletes not to let this happen again.

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    Arenas:

    "Joke or not, I now recognize that what I did was a mistake and was wrong. I should not have brought the guns to DC in the first place, and I now realize that there’s no such thing as joking around when it comes to guns — even if unloaded."

    That quote could easily mean that this suspension made him realize that this situation is nothing to joke about. Regardless, the other quote I posted would have helped your argument a lot more.
    Ok.......

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    That said, I disagree with the suspension. Arenas was starting to play better, I had lots of fun last night watching him. The guy is healthy and in form so rarely and now one won't be able to see him playing even when he's in one of those moments? Fine the man, let him play.

    And, let's be honest here: Stern didn't suspend him for the weapons episode, he suspended him for his antics last night (which I found funny, but I'm a fan of humor noir) and his unwillingness to shut up.

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    Like you weren't doing the same thing.
    Uhhhhhhh no. Because I actually knew that he said he did it as a joke and you didn't which is why I was baffled as to why you bought the kids argument.
    Last edited by DPG21920; 01-06-2010 at 07:48 PM.

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    That said, I disagree with the suspension. Arenas was starting to play better, I had lots of fun last night watching him. The guy is healthy and in form so rarely and now one won't be able to see him playing even when he's in one of those moments? Fine the man, let him play.

    And, let's be honest here: Stern didn't suspend him for the weapons episode, he suspended him for his antics last night (which I found funny, but I'm a fan of humor noir) and his unwillingness to shut up.

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    Someone like that should NEVER have a gun and if he does should be punished immediately.

    He should be educated a lot more than be punished, punishment makes sense because he did commit a crime and endanger his kids, but being dumb and being a criminal are two different things. What he did had no negative impact on anyone's life, and he had no idea what he was doing was illegal at the time. Sticking him in a prison full of evil people who have done things to harm people and have knowingly done illegal things does nothing to solve the problem, it could easily make it worse.

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    Uhhhhhhh no. Because I actually new that he said he did it as a joke and you didn't which is why I was baffled as to why you bought the kids argument.

    I'm not questioning this when I ask the following question I'm just curious, why did you wait so long to bring up that quote when it would have completely killed my argument?

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    How can you say he had no idea what he was doing was wrong? Is he a child?

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    I had no idea you did not know that he did not say that, I thought you were ignoring it. Hence the "you are arguing for the sake of arguing" comment.

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    How can you say he had no idea what he was doing was wrong? Is he a child?
    He's sure as acting like one. Bringing 4 guns into a locker room and jokingly aiming one at your teammate really isn't behavior you expect from an adult.

    If he knew what he was doing was wrong, he wouldn't have acted so nonchalant about it and jokingly made gun hands during a pregame warm up. It's pretty obvious he had no idea what he was doing was wrong, if he knew what he was doing was wrong, he wouldn't have willingly volunteered the fact he aimed a gun at his teammate as a joke as if that's no big deal.

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    I had no idea you did not know that he did not say that, I thought you were ignoring it. Hence the "you are arguing for the sake of arguing" comment.

    Well then sorry. If I knew he said that all along, it certainly would have been arguing for the sake of arguing.

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    I agree he is acting like a child but the answer probably lies in the middle. He knows what he did is wrong because he is an adult, but he acts like a child because he is immature.

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    Looks like Gilbert is heading over to Europe.

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    This really sucks. I know what he did was wrong but the NBA and thier fans are the ultimate losers. Say what you want about him but what makes him great is he is not your typical pre-package player. This is nothing to celebrate. Hopefully he can resolve his issues and get back on the court soon.

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    Stern with the great call.

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    We have no idea. He could have little kids and he doesn't want to risk them finding the guns, he could have a wife who for whatever reason has been experiencing suicidal thoughts and wants him to get the guns out of the house until she is treated, god knows Arenas is loony enough that he himself could be contemplating suicide and wanted to give the gun to someone while he got treatment. There are reasons.
    great, he wanted the guns out of the house. Bringing the guns to the arena was obviously not a good solution.

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    Who was really paying attention to Arenas other than people who follow him on Twitter or hardcore NBA junkies that have Truehoop bookmarked?
    apparently local AND federal agents

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