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Hahahaha!! What???!! LOL. No chance in .
I think he's just looking to get laid based on his sig.
Hahahaha!! What???!! LOL. No chance in .
You little girl...what did the big bad men hurt your whittle feeeeewings?
Awwwww...
LOL This dude has to be 16.
He can want to play all he wants. Time stops for no one. I don't see him playing healthy for long lengths anymore.And people think he only has a few more years left.....
Being in a job that is physically demanding, I can appreciate a leader who cares about my health more than a goal or unimportant measurement.
Without even debating the point you raise:
First, who the is Kevin Ding of the Orange County Register and why do we care what he says in what is labeled an opinion piece? You act like he's some kind of NBA guru that we should pay attention to.
BTW here's his picture:
Second, do you actually think Kobe Bryant has a single negative thought about Gregg Popovich or Tim Duncan and their approach to the game and their successes? If so you are deluded. It was this Kevin Ding guy who contrasted their approaches, not Kobe.
This is the idiot list. I don't want to read posts by idiots. If you have a problem with that, tough .
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also tim duncan doesn't need to play injured to motivate his teammates, like kobe must do as this article and the op suggests.
I live in LA, and I can tell you that articles like this are completely indicative of Laker fans. They honestly think that Bryant is on some ascendant level above all other players in the League - or even the history of the League. It's laughable.
The only thing I can understand is that they obviously had to arrive at a suitable disconnect at some point in order to rationalize their fandom - for continuing to pull and cheer and scream ofr a guy like Bryant. When Bryant was accused of rape, the city was paralyzed. When he was questioned by the police in Colorado, he literally dropped the name of a teammate, Shaquille O'Neal, as he was being questioned about committing a rape. How on Earth does something like this happen? In the police report, he admitted to a specific lewd act with the woman, saying, "You know, that's my thing." I'll guarantee you that 95% of Laker fans, if not 99%, have not read the police report. If any Laker fans have, I would be stunned if they are still Laker fans. However, I suppose if a person can read the police report and still cheer and scream for Bryant to succeed... well, to each his own.
As we know, the case never went to trial. But during the months of proceedings, Laker fans had to convince themselves that their guy wasn't a sexual predator. So to overcompensate, they reconstructed a guy who is a talented but incredibly selfish basketball player into some mythic figure. Laker fans blew him up to such a grandiose point that Bryant is ostensibly looming over Wilshire Blvd like a cartoon balloon from a Macy's Thanksgiving parade.
So now, it's no wonder that Bryant is such a polarizing figure. The level of adulation - and credit - he receives from Laker fans is so over-the-top and unwarranted. After all, Shaquille brought three les to the city. This fact is abundantly clear to 100% of the people outside of LA. Shaquille was the clear MVP in those three les. Yet now, Shaquille has been reduced to an afterthought, as if he were the one who was coattaling. This is also laughable.
Similarly, the Lakers won the le last year with Bryant as their leading scorer. But it didn't come until Pau Gasol, another dominant big man, joined the team.
Bottom line...in the minds of Laker fans, Bryant is something far greater than he is. I now realize that this is because he has to be.
If Laker fans looked at Bryant as who and what he really is, they could no longer be Laker fans.
^ What a post, I have to admit. Sadly, some aspects of your piece are on target (some).
Real Laker fans are not all over Kobe's jock I have to admit. Not saying that all Kobe fans are not real Laker fans but I've come to the realization that my love, adoration and affinity for all things Lakers are based from the old time guys I enjoyed watching, i.e., your Magic's, Coop's, Scott's. when I was a kid.
They were the, for lack of a better word, "Cooler" Lakers.
Kobe is great no doubt but to rest the entire lure and history of what the Lakers represent on #24 who will be a afterthought 5-6 years from now is tragic. The Lakers are a whole lot more than #24.
I am convinced our old and much missed announcer Chick Hearn would agree with my last sentence.
Post of the year
Too bad most Laker homers won't read it as they are incapable of thinking beyond two word headlines and 30 second sound bites.
Excellent post Dude.
Remember when Kobe was crying to be traded out of LA to Stephen A Smith? Lakers fans were so angry and butt hurt over his comments. I was actually impressed to hear the Lakers fans boo him when he was on the floor that first game in Staples after the controversy. Only to watch and listen to every sheep in that building begin to cheer for him and yell MVP when he started scoring a ton of points. Ah, how quickly they forget. ing Nihilists.
From what I have seen from Phil, he uses his bench more than almost any other coach. No matter how bad his bench is, he recognizes that they are NBA players and have some kind of value, even if overall they are scrubs. Therefore, overall, his teams are both more fresh and better prepared for playing meaningful minutes in the playoffs, roster 1-12...
However, that isn't to say that Phil has never employed the 'rest a bigman' before. Don't forget Shaq and his conveniently arthritic toe. Until Miami, Shaq never missed a playoff game. And while with the Lakers, he rarely played a whole season. It worked just fine for him. Kobe may not have liked that, but it was important. Wish Malone had done that with the Lakers instead of wearing himself out in the regular season.
lmao at the thought of the lakers being a couple of all-stars short when it comes playoff timekobe's back, gasol's hammy, bynum's knee, ????
gonna be awesome
Lebron > Kobe
Championship Rings not won
Lebron > Kobe
Why is HH37 on that list? His posts are solid.
Duncan was 31 in 07. And at the age of 33, Duncan's year is taking a statistically all over Cubby's. Something you Laker fan morons probably haven't realized since the only thing your re brains are capable of focusing on is PPG.
Just do the forum a favor and stop posting.
Rings won being the 2nd best player on team
Kobe > Pippen
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You are seriously confused. First of all Pippen has won more rings than Kobe and all of his rings were won as the #2 option. Therefore:
Rings won being the 2nd best player on team
Pippen > Kobe
But despite more rings there's a reason Pippen never gets mentioned as a top 10 all-time player while Kobe has already arrived there. Pippen never closed out games, Jordan did. Shaq never closed out games, Kobe did. When have you ever seen Shaq hit a game-winning shot? Kobe was the primary option when it mattered most and when the game was on the line. Pippen never was. Kobe has also shown his talent level is such he can win championships as the #1 offensive option. Pippen was never able to do that.
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Last edited by namlook; 01-15-2010 at 07:34 PM.
I'm not gone lie that highlighted rebuttal was some very funny ...I can't even hate on it...but it takes a gay to find the gay in innocence...congrats on being super gay...
I know you have me on ignore but I'm going to address your points anyway.
The "clutch" and "closer" concepts as they relate to basketball and sports in general are extremely overrated. I understand Kobe fan's fascination with them, however. Since Kobe was completely overshadowed by Shaq, his ability to make free throws and hit a few clutch shots down the stretch (things any good wing player is capable of) is the only recourse Kobe fans have in trying to convince themselves that Kobe was as equally as important to those les as Shaq was.
Kobe was the primary option when it mattered most? Are you kidding me? The first 10 minutes of the game are just as meaningful as the last 10. Clutch is a byproduct of selective memory and hyperbole. It's so funny to see idiot fans deem a player (any player) who can go 5-20 through the first 3 quarters but then hits a couple of key shots in the 4th, "clutch" and call a player who went 15-20 but maybe missed a FT or an easy shot to seal the game a "choker."
Too many fans have been brainwashed by the ESPiN hype machine. The coverage of the Lakers last game against Dallas was a prime example. Kobe hits a routine go-ahead jumper (after forcing up two horrible shots that allowed Dallas to tie it up) and is basically lauded as the hero of the game, with little focus on the stellar play of Bynum and the rest of the supporting cast. Did ESPN show those two limp shots that were blocked and barely grazed the rim? Was there any mention of Kobe's terrible shot selection during that stretch? Nope. Just a great big circle jerk about the "clutchness" of Kobe, which no doubt prompted many Kobe homers to drop their panties on the spot and join in on the "fun."
I personally would've like to see some serious discussion on Kobe's transition from star to role-player and how the Lakers are more effective when Kobe knows his role and defers.
But you see, I am not confused. Kobe is more "clutch" than Pippen. Therefore,
Best Role Player
Kobe > Pippen
I just find it funny that Kobe is in the GOAT conversations when he is simply a role player.
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