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You act like Pop's decisons can never be questioned and are always correct. Let's get this straight, small ball is POP's choice.. and it backfires ALOT as we've seen so far this year.
Interesting.
You've added youth with Ian balanced out by the veteran Finley. Interesting choices. Might work if Finley can find his legs for one more year.
Defenitely > the current rotation.
You act like Pop's decisons can never be questioned and are always correct. Let's get this straight, small ball is POP's choice.. and it backfires ALOT as we've seen so far this year.
43% and 39% from downtown. Sorry he disappointed you tonight, but I guess you're just pre-conditioned for that. He's not consistent, but then again, he takes very few shots. He's going to shoot 4-5 one night and 0-5 the next. That's what happens when you're always the 5th option on the floor.
This would be a great rotation if we had somebody good to start at a 2G instead of Finley and someone reliable in Ian's place.
You act like somehow, your opinion (that you're en led to) will have some bearing on Pop or this season.
He's a frustrating player to watch for sure. You can thank his 39% from feasting against weak teams this year. In tough games against playoff contenders I would have to guess he is shooting 25% or less. The 2nd half will be a real test for him, as there will be fewer chump teams to feast on.
All I can say is thank god this team has Roger Mason to pick up the slack for him.
It's not too far fetched to think people in the spurs organization might peruse these boards and possibly glean ideas off them.
It's worth a shot.
Small ball IS Pop's choice, but with so much inconsistency with this year's roster (top to bottom), he hasn't had a much better option than to go small at times.
Malik's just a better player than Bogans; flat-out (and I'm a fan of Bogans).
Having said that, Bogans is a consistently better option to throw out there defensively because of his experience and the respect he's built up with officials. But even if he's marginally better or just going to bring a little more consistency than Hairston towards that end, I'd argue it's close enough that Hairston's overall game and upside to impact the game, on both ends, more than makes up for it.
I get why Pop prefers Bogans, as his skill set is a natural plug-in to a proven system: take on the opposition's best offensive option on the wing and be ready to finish plays as a spot-up shooter to spread the floor (the problem is, he's neither the defender nor the high-percentage spot-up shooter that once occupied the role).
Pop's got to break away from the tried and true and start allowing the Hairston's of the world to really show him what they can do; Malik earned the job through his play during SL, TC and the preseason, it's time he was finally rewarded.
Bogans is everything we hoped Udoka would be when they brought him aboard, all of which includes being a backup. Why should a backup who was outplayed for the job to start the season, who happens to be an inferior overall player, not have to compete for the role?
I'm not buying this. When the spurs are getting pounded on the boards or have guards and small forwards trying to guard 4's and 5's (like against blazers' Aldridge for instance) inconsistent or not Pop needs to stop it.
That's like saying "I'm going to use a hammer to screw this screw in because my screwdriver is slightly bent".
You don't understand. I actually agree with most of what you're saying. It's just not going to happen. No amount of ing will make it happen. The quicker you understand that, the quicker we can move on without these silly threads.
It's more like the screw driver is broken and you only have an inch and a half to use and you have to hold it with two fingers and you keep dropping it and you can't get enough torque but you keep trying anyway at least until your friend comes back from the hardware store with a new screwdriver but your friend is a stoner and kind of unreliable so you're not really sure if there's a new screwdriver coming so you keep using the nubby one. . . but your metaphor is good too.
Last edited by ohmwrecker; 01-30-2010 at 01:00 AM.
that's actually how I took your comment, but we can all hope for logic. My question to those that are in support of Bonner regaining his minutes - while he was out, did TD have a harder time scoring inside because we didn't have a "3 point threat" from a big? If the answer is no, that has to be considered in Bonner's minutes as his hustle is not enough to overcome the glaring weakness in the other parts of his "big man" game.
+1
Hairston can play defense too. We've all seen it. He plays very big and has an uncanny ability to block shots. He's young and fast and has given the spurs good energy every time he's been allowed to play.
So even if he gets less respect from the refs playing defense he will MORE than make up for it offensively. Look at the way he is TEARING up the D league right now. He would be a HUGE asset off the bench at 20 mins a game.
I've been talking up Hairston since he was drafted, but I've really given up wasting my time posting about him like I used to.
Hopefully he'll get his shot next year. (I'll hope to be surprised by a good showing that forces Pop to give him his shot, though; The RRT would be as good a time as any.)
Are the hawks a good team so uh, what about the bad shooting against good teams?
I think it's extremely far-fetched.
It's not too far fetched to think people in the spurs organization might peruse these boards and possibly glean ideas off them.
It's worth a shot.
The problem with Hairston is that, while he seems to be able to hit the 3 in the d-league, he has yet to hit one NBA 3 pointer in 36 games over two seasons. I don't know if it's a confidence thing, or the faster pace of the NBA, but he's only attempted two 3 pointers in his NBA career, one each season, both misses.
A wing who can't hit or won't shoot the 3 pointer is useless to this team. His man will give him no respect on D, and will basically be sitting in Duncan's lap all game. You guys like to bag on Bogans, but if he takes 100 shots from long distance, he's going to score 117 points. 39 made 3 pointers X 3 = 117. Tim would score 106 points shooting 100 shots at his current FG%. Hairston, with a shiny excellent career FG% of 48, without the 3 pointer in his repertoire would score only 96 points shooting 2 pointers, even at a high clip.
You can't really make that kind of assumption though..he has improved his 3-point shot over last season, and a sample size of 2 shots obviously isn't fair..there's no way anybody can make a judgment based on 2 shots..
What he said. Besides, you can't just say "36 games" and make it sound impressive like that. Dude has played a grand total of 73 minutes in 21 games this season, taking a total of 11 shots. Sample sizes need to be much larger to make any kind of conclusion. Besides, if Pop believes Malik to be a true 3-point threat (which I think he can be), and if he eventually gets a shot to play some legitimate minutes (which I think he will, but perhaps not until next year), then Pop has a way of dealing with shooters: "Take the open shots you get, or I'll bench you."
You can judge whether he should take more three pointers to play on the Spurs with that number.
Shot is still flat, but it goes through the hoop in the D-League.
Your actually judging Hairston on the sporadic garbage minutes Pop has tossed him like small scraps from the table you'd toss your dog?
Puh-leeze. If he's shooting 3's well in D league I'm sure he can shoot em in the NBA. As far as I know, they play using the same size NBA standard balls and hoops.
I don't really have anything against Bogans BTW..I don't feel comfortable with him as a starter or even a significant contributor, but he has somewhat exceeded expectations..
I'd obviously prefer that Hairston got his minutes, I've been saying that since he looked better than him in preseason, but I understand what they're doing with Hairston at least..the time in Austin should serve him well and help him iron out the problems with his game..
Hopefully they don't have another vet in front of him next year though, unless it's a no-brainer type of guy..
He should probably shoot more of them in the NBA then.
3 point shooting is overrated. Sure you score more points at face value (3 vs 2) but your also not getting to the line at all (unless the occasional 3pt foul which is ultra-rare) & subsequently not getting opposing players in foul trouble in their teams into the penalty for easy points.
Not to mention it breeds laziness and a bunch of players who just stand around and do nothing but wait for a kick out.
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