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    So, in other words, we're back to knowing nothing about what the Spurs are thinking or doing.
    I'm praying it's not an old washed up player.

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    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/bal...urn=nba,219945

    Kelly Dwyer and I share the same sentiments over this trade of Camby's.

    We knew Camby was gone as soon as Dunleavy retired to the front office. But for this? No prospects, no draft picks, the same amount of expiring money that Camby was going to provide had he stayed on? Just a little cash thrown Sterling's way? It's pathetic. It's so damn Clipper-y. I hate that. You should too.

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    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/bal...urn=nba,219945

    Kelly Dwyer and I share the same sentiments over this trade of Camby's.
    Sorry, I don't see the logic. The trade is not lazy, it's very shrewd and intelligent.

    Who really cares if Travis Outlaw doesn't play this year. The clippers aren't in the playoff hunt. Their star player won't be back till next year either. There's no rush and he's a great role player to have, as is Blake.

    Sounds like you two are just butthurt Camby fans.

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    Sorry, I don't see the logic. The trade is not lazy, it's very shrewd and intelligent.

    Who really cares if Travis Outlaw doesn't play this year. The clippers aren't in the playoff hunt. Their star player won't be back till next year either. There's no rush and he's a great role player to have, as is Blake.

    Sounds like you two are just butthurt Camby fans.
    Yeah.. we kinda like a veteran who did well this season for a ty squad by doing good at the PF position - turns out the only position where the Clippers were better against every team they played overall this season -

    http://www.82games.com/0910/0910LAC5.HTM

    And it is easy to root against an ass**** that is Donald Sterling.

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    Yeah.. we kinda like a veteran who did well this season for a ty squad by doing good at the PF position - turns out the only position where the Clippers were better against every team they played overall this season -

    http://www.82games.com/0910/0910LAC5.HTM

    And it is easy to root against an ass**** that is Donald Sterling.
    Well that's great for Camby and all but the clippers have this guy named Blake Griffin who is supposedly a pretty good PF in his own right.

    WTF is Sterling supposed to do, keep Camby for another 2-3 years and stunt Griffin's development?

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    Sorry, I don't see the logic. The trade is not lazy, it's very shrewd and intelligent.
    I'm with TJastal on this one. This is a great trade for BOTH team.

    In Camby the Blazers get a Rent-a-Center for the rest of this year, which makes sense since Oden and Pryz should be back for next year.

    Blazers give up a player at a position where they are already stacked plus an 3rd string PG who has overachieved.

    Clips get great talent and value coming back and $$ for a player who most likely they were going to lose/not pick up in FA anyway.

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    With Camby and Haywood gone, there's not much left out there to trade for. Unless we start thinking about dealing Manu for a star big (which I dreamt about last night).

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    Well that's great for Camby and all but the clippers have this guy named Blake Griffin who is supposedly a pretty good PF in his own right.

    WTF is Sterling supposed to do, keep Camby for another 2-3 years and stunt Griffin's development?
    No..

    But try getting a pick or two from Portland instead of $3 million in cash (that he is anyways not going to spend on basketball) to go along with the buying of a player who is not going to play much this season (Outlaw) and another who is merely a backup.

    Even the Spurs would have offered more than the chump change that the Blazers did.

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    Re read it again sunshine.
    Why, oh why, must you be such a ?

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    No..

    But try getting a pick or two from Portland instead of $3 million in cash (that he is anyways not going to spend on basketball) to go along with the buying of a player who is not going to play much this season (Outlaw) and another who is merely a backup.

    Even the Spurs would have offered more than the chump change that the Blazers did.
    Chump change? I don't think so. And again, the clippers can wait on Outlaw, they are in no rush for his services this year. The clippers are 21-31 and out of contention.

    Outlaw is no chump. He will be a great role player off the bench for them next year as he was in Portland. They needed a decent backup point guard (Telfair sucks apparently). How long did the spurs around looking for a decent backup point guard? They don't grow on trees.

    And if the clippers lose a few more games this year by losing Camby it only increases their chances in the lottery, so that angle is covered as well. Any way you look at it, your argument fails.

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    I'm actually a bit relieved. For whatever we would give up, I don't think Camby would improve our team. This trade doesn't help Portland's chances in the West, IMO.

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    Chump change? I don't think so. And again, the clippers can wait on Outlaw, they are in no rush for his services this year. The clippers are 21-31 and out of contention.

    Outlaw is no chump. He will be a great role player off the bench for them next year as he was in Portland. They needed a decent backup point guard (Telfair sucks apparently). How long did the spurs around looking for a decent backup point guard? They don't grow on trees.

    And if the clippers lose a few more games this year by losing Camby it only increases their chances in the lottery, so that angle is covered as well. Any way you look at it, your argument fails.
    What makes you think that Travis Outlaw is going to stay with the Clips next season when he is a free agent? The only leverage that the Clips would have are his Bird's rights.

    And you can add all the polish to Steve Blake's talents, but he isn't the answer to the Clips' squad and neither is he going to stay in Sterling beyond this season.

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    No..

    But try getting a pick or two from Portland instead of $3 million in cash (that he is anyways not going to spend on basketball) to go along with the buying of a player who is not going to play much this season (Outlaw) and another who is merely a backup.

    Even the Spurs would have offered more than the chump change that the Blazers did.
    I pretty sure that's not true. What combination of Spurs assets do you propose would be judged more valuable by the Clippers than Blake, Outlaw, and $3M.

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    I pretty sure that's not true. What combination of Spurs assets do you propose would be judged more valuable by the Clippers than Blake, Outlaw, and $3M.
    A draft pick in the future? or Ian Mahinmi to go along with Bonner and Mason.

    But I agree with you on one thing. *ANY* other team would have tried to get a draft pick in a bargain for Camby; the Clips are satisfied with $3 million. Possibly it helps Sterling recompense that payoffs he made for those racism charges.

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    A draft pick in the future? or Ian Mahinmi to go along with Bonner and Mason.

    But I agree with you on one thing. *ANY* other team would have tried to get a draft pick in a bargain for Camby; the Clips are satisfied with $3 million. Possibly it helps Sterling recompense that payoffs he made for those racism charges.
    There you go. The Clips value the 3M more than a pick and they probably value Outlaw as a future Clipper more than Bonner, Mason, Ian, or any expiring Spur contract. For what the Clips were after, no reasonable offer from the Spurs could top what Portland put on the table.

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    It's all about the money baby. It's all about the money.

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    There you go. The Clips value the 3M more than a pick and they probably value Outlaw as a future Clipper more than Bonner, Mason, Ian, or any expiring Spur contract. For what the Clips were after, no reasonable offer from the Spurs could top what Portland put on the table.
    Hmm..to reiterate that point again though- why would Outlaw resigning with the Clips be a given, considering he too is a free agent? And that the Clips have never spent beyond the cap?

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    Hmm..to reiterate that point again though- why would Outlaw resigning with the Clips be a given, considering he too is a free agent? And that the Clips have never spent beyond the cap?
    It's not a given.

    It's just that recent reports have the Clips ready to part company with Thornton. That means they have an opening for a SF. Outlaw is a better candidate for that role than any Spur with an expiring contract. They will have full Bird rights on Outlaw and have plenty of projected cap space this summer.

    Mostly it's about the 3M.

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    What makes you think that Travis Outlaw is going to stay with the Clips next season when he is a free agent? The only leverage that the Clips would have are his Bird's rights.

    And you can add all the polish to Steve Blake's talents, but he isn't the answer to the Clips' squad and neither is he going to stay in Sterling beyond this season.
    Why wouldn't they stick around? Griffin is locked up and is going to be a great player in the league and they have a decent nucleus of players - Davis, Thornton, Kaman, Gordon, Butler, and Jordan.

    I'll be willing to bet you that both of them stick around unless Sterling low balls them. The clippers are going to be an exciting up and coming team next year and an attractive destination for free agents.

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    Somewhere rascal is crying...


    Count on him to tell us that Manu should have been traded for Camby.

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    A draft pick in the future? or Ian Mahinmi to go along with Bonner and Mason.

    But I agree with you on one thing. *ANY* other team would have tried to get a draft pick in a bargain for Camby; the Clips are satisfied with $3 million. Possibly it helps Sterling recompense that payoffs he made for those racism charges.

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    Hmm..to reiterate that point again though- why would Outlaw resigning with the Clips be a given, considering he too is a free agent? And that the Clips have never spent beyond the cap?
    The Spurs had better make a run for Outlaw this offseason.

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    Yeah.. I guess.. there is no point rueing over the Camby miss. Here's wishing the Spurs get that much required big with good size to help out Tim.

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    I wonder if the same people who were willing to have Camby come in and play center even though he's gone next year would have a problem with a guy who's already on the roster playing center even though he's gone next year.

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