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  1. #26
    Duh and/or hello! Ode to Triple Ocho's Avatar
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    They cant just make this rule up in the middle of the season.
    They aren't.

    It just has to be proven.

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    Biz Z in the mile high city!

    Then sometimes run a big lineup of Billups/Melo/K/Nene/Z

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    Let me ask this to see if anyone knows.

    I don't think he has been bought out yet.
    I know he hasn't played yet.
    But is he suiting up for the Wizards and sitting on the bench, even in streetclothes?
    30 days starts after the buyout, right? Aren't most cases where a player is bought out done immediately? This one hasn't happened yet.

    Now, to drive the conspiracy theorists nuts:

    The NBA will allow the Wizards to void Arenas contract if they keep Big Z. If he returns to the Cavs, they keep Gilbert's contract. Think about it. Wizards have already gone into complete rebuild, dumping Butler and Jamison. Arenas is all they need to shed now.

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    Let me ask this to see if anyone knows.

    I don't think he has been bought out yet.
    I know he hasn't played yet.
    But is he suiting up for the Wizards and sitting on the bench, even in streetclothes?
    30 days starts after the buyout, right? Aren't most cases where a player is bought out done immediately? This one hasn't happened yet.

    Now, to drive the conspiracy theorists nuts:

    The NBA will allow the Wizards to void Arenas contract if they keep Big Z. If he returns to the Cavs, they keep Gilbert's contract. Think about it. Wizards have already gone into complete rebuild, dumping Butler and Jamison. Arenas is all they need to shed now.
    The 30 day waiting period starts with the date of the trade and only applies to the Cavs. Any other team can sign him immediately after he clears waivers and the buyout is finalized.

    On your conspiracy theory. It really doesn't matter whether or not the NBA supports any attempt by the Wizards to voids Arenas' contract. In the now unlikely event that they make the attempt, the final decision will be made by an arbiter or in a court.

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    Let me ask this to see if anyone knows.

    I don't think he has been bought out yet.
    I know he hasn't played yet.
    But is he suiting up for the Wizards and sitting on the bench, even in streetclothes?
    All I knew is he flew right back to Cleveland after taking his physical. I don't know if he'll be on Washington's bench or not. Even if he is, he'll spend most of his time in Cleveland because he's lived here for 13 years.

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    ambchang is my bitch Daddy_Of_All_Trolls's Avatar
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    The 30 day waiting period starts with the date of the trade and only applies to the Cavs. Any other team can sign him immediately after he clears waivers and the buyout is finalized.

    On your conspiracy theory. It really doesn't matter whether or not the NBA supports any attempt by the Wizards to voids Arenas' contract. In the now unlikely event that they make the attempt, the final decision will be made by an arbiter or in a court.
    Thanks, Some things about the NBA I know well. Others I rely on other smart folks to help out.

    The date of the trade means they could release him on day 30, thus shortening the time other teams have to try to sign him.....but...

    ....Way too complicated and I don't really care where he ends up. If the Cavs don't get him back and they win it all, he does deserve a ring. Not to do so would be more classless than LeBron not shaking hands after the Magic beat his team last year.

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    All I knew is he flew right back to Cleveland after taking his physical. I don't know if he'll be on Washington's bench or not. Even if he is, he'll spend most of his time in Cleveland because he's lived here for 13 years.
    This indicates he will be bought out. Otherwise he would be going to practices, and getting acquainted with his new mates. Thanks for your help as well.

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    I think the nba stopped stackhouse from going back to the mavs in the devin harris trade... I'm not sure if they actually stopped him or if they just threatened cubes and he changed the deal.

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    All I knew is he flew right back to Cleveland after taking his physical. I don't know if he'll be on Washington's bench or not. Even if he is, he'll spend most of his time in Cleveland because he's lived here for 13 years.

    If you see Big Z tell him I'm terribly sorry brah for having to live there...

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    If you see Big Z tell him I'm terribly sorry brah for having to live there...
    Nah, he loves it here. He says it reminds him of Lithuania.

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    You've got to be kidding, right? They'd be idiots to not take advantage of the loophole.
    By saying that... you are saying they indeed had it pre-arranged which IS against the rules, outright cheating, and not a loophole.

    Laughing at all the posters that come up with the "if they did it then it's ok for us to" comments. I suppose you never grasped the whole two wrongs don't make a right concept.
    Last edited by cobbler; 02-21-2010 at 09:46 PM.

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    Bt saying that... you are saying they indeed had it pre-arranged which IS against the rules and not a loophole.
    Not saying that. Just saying that if the buyout happens and Z becomes available, they would be fools for not picking him up if they can.

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    Ilgauskas was quoted as saying something like "Hopefully they just make me stay here for a few days, then let me go back home."

    If Stern read that the deal is screwed.

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    Ilgauskas was quoted as saying something like "Hopefully they just make me stay here for a few days, then let me go back home."

    If Stern read that the deal is screwed.
    Yep... that's how the Stackhouse deal got screwed. Cause he commented about it.

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    Ilgauskas was quoted as saying something like "Hopefully they just make me stay here for a few days, then let me go back home."

    If Stern read that the deal is screwed.
    Pretty oblique comment. He does live in Cleveland, his wife and kids are here, his favorite bars are here, etc.

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    Didn't McDyess return to Detroit after the Billups trade?

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    haha that would be cool.

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    Didn't McDyess return to Detroit after the Billups trade?
    yes

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    By saying that... you are saying they indeed had it pre-arranged which IS against the rules, outright cheating, and not a loophole.

    Laughing at all the posters that come up with the "if they did it then it's ok for us to" comments. I suppose you never grasped the whole two wrongs don't make a right concept.
    speaking of taking advantage of loopholes


    how's that Gasol deal working out for you? I mean, using a contract of a player who doesn't even play in the NBA to make the salaries match, that's ethical right? not a loophole at all, eh?


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    On February 1, 2008, McKie along with Kwame Brown, Javaris Crittenton, rights to Marc Gasol, and 2008 and 2010 first-round draft picks was traded to the Memphis Grizzlies for Pau Gasol.

    The Lakers' acquisition of Pau Gasol was only approved by the league office when McKie—who was working as an assistant coach with Philadelphia when the Lakers called to inform him that they wanted to sign him and throw him in for salary-cap reasons—agreed to join the Grizzlies.

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    Pretty oblique comment. He does live in Cleveland, his wife and kids are here, his favorite bars are here, etc.
    But the Wizards need a center after trading Haywood. It makes no basketball sense to buy him out. Stern is not stupid.

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    speaking of taking advantage of loopholes


    how's that Gasol deal working out for you? I mean, using a contract of a player who doesn't even play in the NBA to make the salaries match, that's ethical right? not a loophole at all, eh?
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    On February 1, 2008, McKie along with Kwame Brown, Javaris Crittenton, rights to Marc Gasol, and 2008 and 2010 first-round draft picks was traded to the Memphis Grizzlies for Pau Gasol.

    The Lakers' acquisition of Pau Gasol was only approved by the league office when McKie—who was working as an assistant coach with Philadelphia when the Lakers called to inform him that they wanted to sign him and throw him in for salary-cap reasons—agreed to join the Grizzlies.
    Nope. It was ethically wrong to talke advantage of a loophole like that! Again, what part of two wrongs dont make a right don't you get?

    The difference here also is that McKie didn't come back and contribute anything to the Lakers. It was just a $ deal to make the numbers match. The Lakers asked him if he would want to do it and he actually went to Memphis and participated in practices and wasn't waived for 3 months.

    Again, If the Wizz just waived Big Z and Z decided he wanted to go back to the Cavs... No problem. If they pre-arranged it... Cheating. Not a loophole. Downright cheating.

    Even a buffoon such as you should be able to grasp the huge difference. No?

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    Phil Jackson must have spoken out.

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    But the Wizards need a center after trading Haywood. It makes no basketball sense to buy him out. Stern is not stupid.
    They drafted JaVale McGee in the first round two years ago to play center. Why would they want to take PT from him and give it to a two-month rental who won't re-sign there, especially since they're going nowhere anyway?

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    im all good with it too cuz its a loophole...might aswell take advantage while its still there.
    EXACTLY!
    This is bull if the NBA does this. Either you make a rule that can't be exploited or you GTFO..!!!

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    lol Stern just wants LA to win another championship.

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