One of my best friends killed himself

[thispego]

being selfish is probably the last thing someone considering suicide would think of, and rightfully so. i could think of a million reasons not to kill myself and avoiding being considered selfish would not be one of them.

[Suicidal Jack]

They cashed in their chips, some of yall would like to bride of frankenstein these poor people

Finally an advocate that sees it our way.

[Phillip]

being selfish is probably the last thing someone considering suicide would think of, and rightfully so. i could think of a million reasons not to kill myself and avoiding being considered selfish would not be one of them.

While I can understand and even agree with this, it doesnt change the fact that its still ridiculously selfish.

[Greg Oden]

[thispego]

While I can understand and even agree with this, it doesnt change the fact that its still ridiculously selfish.

Is it not selfish of family members and friends to expect a person to crawl through a miserable existence just so that they don't have to suffer the loss of that person?

[IronMexican]

being selfish is probably the last thing someone considering suicide would think of, and rightfully so. i could think of a million reasons not to kill myself and avoiding being considered selfish would not be one of them.

Yeah, you could think of a million reasons. But some people still only think about themselves. I'm pretty sure a lot of people have killed themselves over something extremely re ed. My cousins cousin killed himself for I don't know what after telling his girlfriend "Give me more sex(Or something of that nature) or I'll kill myself." You don't something like that is extremely selfish? And I'm glad my cousin didn't go to that dude's funeral. It would be impossible for me to respect anyone who offed themselves.

[thispego]

Yeah, you could think of a million reasons. But some people still only think about themselves. I'm pretty sure a lot of people have killed themselves over something extremely re ed. My cousins cousin killed himself for I don't know what after telling his girlfriend "Give me more sex(Or something of that nature) or I'll kill myself." You don't something like that is extremely selfish? And I'm glad my cousin didn't go to that dude's funeral. It would be impossible for me to respect anyone who offed themselves.

people who kill themselves out of spite or with the intention of ruining someone else's life dont even deserve consideration in a discussion like this. Yes people commit suicide for all sorts of reasons and i'd say probably 1% do it out of pure selfishness. I dont think most suicide victims fall into that category, and you don't need to besmirch them further by naming their actions selfish. that's a blanket term that i think has been unfairly associated with suicide.

[Phillip]

Is it not selfish of family members and friends to expect a person to crawl through a miserable existence just so that they don't have to suffer the loss of that person?

What makes their existence so miserable? Because they are too much of a pussy to know how to deal with a break-up? Or because they don't have their priorities right, and don't know how to deal with stress? There are people in this world who deal with a LOT worse, yet dont kill themselves over it. Sorry, but suicide is lame and stupid as . I know that some people literally have chemical imbalances and honestly cannot help it and cant think straight, and situations like that are a little more understandable. But I'd put money on it, that the majority of the time, people are just simply being ignorant as when they decide to do such a thing.

[Phillip]

people who kill themselves out of spite or with the intention of ruining someone else's life dont even deserve consideration in a discussion like this. Yes people commit suicide for all sorts of reasons and i'd say probably 1% do it out of pure selfishness. I dont think most suicide victims fall into that category, and you don't need to besmirch them further by naming their actions selfish. that's a blanket term that i think has been unfairly associated with suicide.

Of course they arent doing it with the intent to be selfish. That would make no sense at all. It's like when your a kid and you lie to your parents, and they gets pissed as over it, and usually deep down are even heartbroken over it. You didnt lie with the INTENT to break your parents heart. It's just a consequence that you obviously didnt think enough about. The only consequence you thought about was the possibility of pissing them off.

[thispego]

i agree that suicide is lame and stupid as , but life is tough man, and true, some aren't equipped to deal with it. this world is so tough, in fact, that it may boil down to a survival of the fittest scenario. you have to be mentally fit, as much as you have to be physically fit to have a prosperous existence on this earth. some people just aren't cut out for it and they exacerbate their problems by not fixing old ones while constantly adding new problems. That can put a lot of weight on some people and if you're mentally fragile, that weight can easily break you.

[thispego]

Of course they arent doing it with the intent to be selfish. That would make no sense at all. It's like when your a kid and you lie to your parents, and they gets pissed as over it, and usually deep down are even heartbroken over it. You didnt lie with the INTENT to break your parents heart. It's just a consequence that you obviously didnt think enough about. The only consequence you thought about was the possibility of pissing them off.

i was commenting on IM's post:

My cousins cousin killed himself for I don't know what after telling his girlfriend "Give me more sex(Or something of that nature) or I'll kill myself." You don't something like that is extremely selfish?

[mookie2001]

So what Phil if suicide is lame and ignorant? They had the last laugh on ignorance and lameness.


The sad part is the death not the character traits one might have had while causing it


Would you rather the guy have died of cancer? Does that give you anymore peace in death?

[JamStone]

I have sympathy too, but what does calling a dead person "selfish" accomplish?

I knew the girl thispego spoke of, not as well but I knew her. My point is you're mourning because the person is gone, not because they were selfish

if they died from a shooting or drunk driver, you could REALLY blame someone. You could take up a cause or start an organization. You can't protect someone from themselves, especially if you don't see them all that often like you admitted.

Crying selfishness is totally missing the point and putting yourself ahead of others, the definition of selfish

I'm just expressing an opinion. I'm not trying to prevent anyone from committing suicide. I'm not trying to "accomplish" anything more than anyone else in this thread simply expressing an opinion. It's my opinion it's a selfish act. Period. I'm not up on a podium preaching to the dead person to un-kill himself. It's over. I simply feel worse for his family and friends who are left to deal with it while he made the ultimate runaway escape.

being selfish is probably the last thing someone considering suicide would think of, and rightfully so. i could think of a million reasons not to kill myself and avoiding being considered selfish would not be one of them.

Pretty much agree with it. Someone who genuinely wants to commit suicide isn't thinking of the consequences and how it will affect people in his life. For me, that doesn't make it any less selfish an act.

[Cleveland Steamer]

i could think of a million reasons not to kill myself and avoiding being considered selfish would not be one of them.

the fact that you think it's about being "considered selfish" shows you dont have a clue brah.

[Phillip]

So what Phil if suicide is lame and ignorant? They had the last laugh on ignorance and lameness.


The sad part is the death not the character traits one might have had while causing it


Would you rather the guy have died of cancer? Does that give you anymore peace in death?

no one argued that the death of another person is sad, just that offing yourself is stupid and selfish.

and yes, i would rather have a friend die of cancer, because at least it wasnt on their own will, and they arent trying to puss out of their problems. completely different situations.

kindly help yourself to a glass of shut the up

[tlongII]

I don't think it's necessarily about being "selfish". Some people just can't escape their demons and feel it's their only choice.

[mookie2001]

i would rather have a friend die of cancer, because at least it wasnt on their own will

so who should decide what's best for people if they can't follow their own will?

[da_suns_fan]

So since like Monday apparently one of my best friend's has been missing. His mom came by my house looking for him and a couple other people he normally hangs out with called me looking for him...eventually they had missing person posters up with his face on it. I hadn't seen him in awhile, a couple months I guess, and I hadn't talked to him in about that long.

Then I'm at work today when I get a text message saying they found his body in an abandoned house in the Devil's Den with a shotgun and he Cobain'd himself. Pretty ed up man. Me and this dude were best friends in high school. I hadn't seen him much lately because I'm always working or at school plus my girlfriend lives with me etc...but damn, I feel really bad. I wish I had seen him more. I'm kinda in disbelief I guess, I dunno, doesn't feel like it's settled in.

Has anyone ever gone through this?

Really sorry, man. Death is hard. One second theyre just as here as you and me and then theyre gone.

[The Reckoning]

yall are probably the sort to believe that every single act carried out is a selfish one

[mookie_crew]

yall s know what we bump down in the v

[thispego]

the fact that you think it's about being "considered selfish" shows you dont have a clue brah.

The fact that you said that shows you didn't read the thread brah

[MookieCrew]

yall s know what we bump down in the v

ha! dets wat i woulda done