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  1. #26
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    i actually like the margin of victory statistic, and used it to argue the Mavs got better in 07-08 AFTER the Kidd trade but were simply unlucky in the close games.

    but the mavs should only be judged by their post trade margin of victory... which is 5.3, which is good considering injuries and the level of compe ion, and can only get better from here on out because the schedule gets much lighter.

    hollinger needs to eat his crow about the trade being a lateral move. Just watch the damn games and you can tell the Mavs are much improved.

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    Hollinger is a . All he does is parrot whatever his stupid stats say, no matter how out of touch with current reality they may be.

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    Hollinger's keyboard diarrhea
    He's penalizing the Mavericks for not blowing everyone out? Is this college football or the NBA?

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    Let's break down Dallas' body of work. Despite its impressive win-loss record, it has the league's 12th-best scoring margin at plus-2.25 points per game. Normally, a team with that margin would be 36-25; the Mavs are 40-21 thanks to freakishly good fortune in close games.


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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    And what exactly is it about Utah that makes Hollinger knobslob them every year? Last year they were an 8 seed and he was trying to argue that they were still among the league's elite.

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    i actually like the margin of victory statistic, and used it to argue the Mavs got better in 07-08 AFTER the Kidd trade but were simply unlucky in the close games.

    but the mavs should only be judged by their post trade margin of victory... which is 5.3, which is good considering injuries and the level of compe ion, and can only get better from here on out because the schedule gets much lighter.

    hollinger needs to eat his crow about the trade being a lateral move. Just watch the damn games and you can tell the Mavs are much improved.
    Do you like the On Court/Off Court +/- ratio of players per 48 minute average over a long period of time? In their short time here, Haywood and Butler have the best on court +/- on the team. They also had the best +/- for the Wizards. Kinda makes me excited.

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    Do you like the On Court/Off Court +/- ratio of players per 48 minute average over a long period of time? In their short time here, Haywood and Butler have the best on court +/- on the team. They also had the best +/- for the Wizards. Kinda makes me excited.
    Those stats can sometimes go a long way in registering things that aren't necessarily seen by the untrained eye. It makes sense because those guys always have such a positive influence when out on the court and Haywood's defense and rebounding alone is always a game changer. Contrarily, JJB must have the worst +/- of any other mav. The guy was pretty much the main reason we almost blew a 25 point lead vs NO. He's that bad, and part of it's not even his fault. Only Carlisle knows why he had him defending Collison for long stretches.

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    Look a little deeper, however, and the Mavs' résumé isn't nearly as impressive. They have gone 8-1 since their trade with Washington on Feb. 13, but they have outscored their opposition by only 5.3 points per game during that time. In other words, during their best stretch of the season, they still haven't matched the scoring margin of elite teams such as the Cavs (plus-7.3), Lakers (plus-6.4) and Magic (plus-5.8), and they barely exceed the marks of the Celtics, Hawks, Nuggets, Jazz and Spurs.
    what. the. .

    He criticizes the Mavs for not having as good of a scoring margin as the Lakers, the Magic, and the Hawks, when three of our wins in this streak have come against the Lakers, the Magic and the ing Hawks. Where the is the logic in that? This is stupid even for Hollinger.

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    what. the. .

    He criticizes the Mavs for not having as good of a scoring margin as the Lakers, the Magic, and the Hawks, when three of our wins in this streak have come against the Lakers, the Magic and the ing Hawks. Where the is the logic in that? This is stupid even for Hollinger.
    They should've beaten them by 10+ points. If you can't beat the Lakers, Magic and Hawks by 10+ points, you're not very good.

    /Hollinger

    ing Christ that's dumb.

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    I'm Mavs>Spurs bitch Allanon's Avatar
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    This is still bitterness by Hollinger after being called out by Cuban over the Harris/Kidd trade.

    Anthothy Randolph Mono. Change back to Mono and change your sig.

    http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost...2&postcount=82

    Allanon- There's a date and time on it if I edited it now. I can specifically find the post where I said he was a "role

    player" FIRST.

    You take the bet or not you pussy ?

    Mono - Ok I take that bet.

    Allanon - I showed you where "role player" was. I won.

    Change your sig to "I'm Allanon's ", Mono.

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    Anthothy Randolph Mono. Change back to Mono and change your sig.

    http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost...2&postcount=82

    Allanon- There's a date and time on it if I edited it now. I can specifically find the post where I said he was a "role

    player" FIRST.

    You take the bet or not you pussy ?

    Mono - Ok I take that bet.

    Allanon - I showed you where "role player" was. I won.

    Change your sig to "I'm Allanon's ", Mono.
    You can stop spamming the forum with this crap. If you need to, create a thread calling him out and bump it everyday. Thanks.

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    I'm Mavs>Spurs bitch Allanon's Avatar
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    You can stop spamming the forum with this crap. If you need to, create a thread calling him out and bump it everyday. Thanks.
    I keep my trolling to threads Mono posts in. Thanks.

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    Anthothy Randolph Mono. Change back to Mono and change your sig.

    http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost...2&postcount=82

    Allanon- There's a date and time on it if I edited it now. I can specifically find the post where I said he was a "role

    player" FIRST.

    You take the bet or not you pussy ?

    Mono - Ok I take that bet.

    Allanon - I showed you where "role player" was. I won.

    Change your sig to "I'm Allanon's ", Mono.
    YOU ARE THE MOTHA IN WINNER, HERE'S YOUR PRIZE

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    link failed

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    I keep my trolling to threads Mono posts in. Thanks.
    Fine, I'll just put you on ignore.

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    I'm Mavs>Spurs bitch Allanon's Avatar
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    Fine, I'll just put you on ignore.
    Fair enough.

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    Hollinger is a hold

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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    The Mavs' winning streak has come against some difficult opposition, but some easy matchups -- home games against Indiana and a Dwyane Wade-less Miami team, for instance -- have produced close shaves. In fact, Dallas hasn't won a game by more than 10 points since Jan. 24.
    See, this is another instance where Hollinger's system is ing re ed. The Mavs were up by like 20 points over the Pacers when Matt Carroll and the rest of the C-team came into the game. The final 2 minutes of garbage time is when Indiana managed to cut it to 9 points.

    Hollinger is punishing the Mavs because their 12th man sucks ass in garbage time?

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    See, this is another instance where Hollinger's system is ing re ed. The Mavs were up by like 20 points over the Pacers when Matt Carroll and the rest of the C-team came into the game. The final 2 minutes of garbage time is when Indiana managed to cut it to 9 points.

    Hollinger is punishing the Mavs because their 12th man sucks ass in garbage time?
    Yeah, that game was never in doubt, the Mavs were in complete control, and being at that game, I could tell you that they were holding something back for the Lakers two nights later - Kidd didn't even play in the 4th Quarter, and like you said, the Pacers cut the lead to a respectable margin in garbage time. The is he talking about that game being a close shave? This is basketball, not baseball baldie. Metrics only tell you so much.

    His formula had us behind Miami until yesterday - when we had won 7 straight versus their four straight losses, a higher strength of schedule and a better point differential. On what basis are the Heat better than the Mavs?

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    Meh. Having Hollinger's approval is like the ugly chick telling you you're cute.

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    Even Charley Rosen, noted Phil Jackson swallower and the king of all Dirk/Mavs haters, has admitted that the Mavs at least have an outside shot at beating the Lakers.

    This is still bitterness by Hollinger after being called out by Cuban over the Harris/Kidd trade.
    Lol @ Cuban publicly taking joy at Harris's struggles. Also, @ forgetting that putting Harris in the starting lineup in the 2006 Conference Semis turned the series.

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    Lol @ Cuban publicly taking joy at Harris's struggles. Also, @ forgetting that putting Harris in the starting lineup in the 2006 Conference Semis turned the series.
    Cuban has never "taken joy" at Harris' struggles. They've never done anything but wish him the best in Jersey. Besides, I thought Devin Harris was some badass and the Mavs apparently made an awful trade.

  24. #49
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    Lol @ Cuban publicly taking joy at Harris's struggles. Also, @ forgetting that putting Harris in the starting lineup in the 2006 Conference Semis turned the series.
    proof or shove it up your ass. no one in the mavs organization, fans included, has ever wished harris anything but the best. try to contribute in a meaningful way or take your garbage back to the mouthbreather forum

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    @ my bad memory and self ownage today. Truly epic fails in two threads.

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