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Yeah that "leader" really led them against LA. Billups is no more of a leader than Dirk is.
As I said before, barring major injuries, no, they have no chance.
Yeah that "leader" really led them against LA. Billups is no more of a leader than Dirk is.
He already said as much. Please keep up.
You listed which teams had "it" and which teams didn't. But you certainly didn't back up your assertions with any evidence.
So what did Denver have in 2009 that the Mavericks didn't have in 2006? The Mavericks had a very compe ive Finals where the outcome of the series would've been changed by one or two plays. Denver got taken apart at home in Game 6 by the eventual champs.Well, no. We were discussing Kidd being the alpha male in your team. Obviously, the Hornets didn't win it all, and they certainly doesn't have the intangibles. Denver did, but the Lakers did too and they were simply the better team.
That's why you're unaware that your team can't win it all.
That's the logical conclusion to your argument. If Fisher doesn't make what is a extremely difficult shot, a shot he would probably miss 9 times out of 10, then the Spurs get a Game 7 at home. But according to you,the Lakers were better and the Spurs weren't CAPABLE of winning such a game.
God damn you're dumb. I wouldn't expect anything more from someone who supports harboring Nazis.
What intangible leadership qualities does Billups have that Kidd and Dirk don't have?
Then neither does Orlando or Denver.
What evidence do you need?
As I already said, a leader.
I don't think Orlando really has a chance to win it all.
Denver needs KMart, and even then it's a tossup.
a cheerleader?
How did you determine who has "it" and who doesn't? What qualities do you see in Billups that you don't see in Kidd?
So the Mavs came much closer to a le without a "leader" in 2006 than the Nuggets did with just such a player in 2009. Interesting. How on earth were the Mavs ever able to beat such a team as San Antonio in 2006 when the Spurs had just such a player in Duncan and the teams were level in talent? How come the team with the leader didn't prevail at home in Game 7 over the team lacking just such a player?As I already said, a leader
Don't be butthurt. Reality sometimes hurt, and you don't need to bring up Godwin's law on every post. I don't see you contributing to this discussion with insight on why your team has been a complete failure throughout it's history.
I bet Billups gives a killer Knute Rockne locker room speech.
Billups is a leader, but more importantly, he's a catalyst for that team. When he got there, he didn't play lap dog to Carmelo. He simply took reins of the team. Carmelo might be the most talented player, but Denver is Chauncey's team. Kidd on the other hand, is happy to be second banana to Dirk. You look at Dallas, and it's Dirk's team.
Dallas had a great gameplan. Kudos to AJ for that. He knew enough of our team to know what bothered us and what didn't. Really, not much different than what Nelly did a year later to the Mavs. As far as Duncan, well, you might remember he had planar fasciitis that season.
But don't get me wrong. Over 7 games, the Mavs executed better, and beat us fair and square.
Billups is the exact right fit for that team. They always had great talent, but they never knew how to really take advantage of it. That's why they were always unable to make a deep run in the playoffs.
Billups sets the tempo, he knows when to run and when to slow down. He understands that sometimes it's time for Melo to do his thing and sometimes it's time for Nene to play the low post game. He's the catalyst and basically a coach on the floor.
So Dirk and Kidd aren't leaders? Kidd doesn't have the same kind of alpha dog temperament, veteran savvy, basketball IQ and leadership skills as Billups? The book on Dirk is that he doesn't have an Alpha Dog temperament, but in terms of unselfishness, basketball IQ, veteran savvy, he's a leader.
That's true, but what is most important is that he's an actual PG who knows how to run an offense. He gets his teammates involved, knows when to defer and what hot hand to ride, but he also knows when to look for his shot and take over when necessary. Iverson, on the other hand, traded possessions with Anthony; i.e. "You shot last time down the court, now it's my turn." All of that locker room stuff wouldn't matter at all if Billups weren't a much better ON COURT fit than Iverson.but more importantly, he's a catalyst for that team. When he got there, he didn't play lap dog to Carmelo.He simply took reins of the team. Carmelo might be the most talented player, but Denver is Chauncey's team.
He runs that locker room alongside Dirk.Kidd on the other hand, is happy to be second banana to Dirk. You look at Dallas, and it's Dirk's team.
Listen, Kidd used to be a whole more important in the old Nets team, because he was the right fit there. He always been great passing and on the fastbreak, and they had all athletic freaks around him, like young RJ and KMart. On that team, Kidd was simply the perfect PG. On the Mavs, he's still a great PG, and I'll give him enormous credit for working on his spot up 3 point shot, but it's not really his game. He has also taken a seat back to Dirk as far as leadership goes. So, he's effective in Dallas, but not quite all you could get from him.
He has? How did you determine this?
Dirk is an extremely talented basketball player, but he's not a leader. It's just not in his imprint. As far as veteran savvy and basketball IQ, I'll say that they're all on the same level. Kidd was the leader of the Nets teams that reached the Finals. He's not the leader of the Mavericks today.
This is Dirk's team.
Chauncey also knows when it's time for heroics, and when it's time to cool it down. Tempo. He can run the fastbreak and can play the set offense. But above all, all his teammates trust him calling the shots. He knows when it's time to get mad, and when it's time to chill out. He knows when to put the foot on the throat and don't let go.
Veteran players normally do.
lol Suns. How many times do the Spurs need to own your team to finally "get it"?
The Mavs are Dirk's team. You can tell me how well Kidd has fit, and how important he is to what your team does, but ultimately the team is built around him. When push come to shove, he's the guy that makes or breaks your team.
I just to laugh at this statement. In 07, everybody expected the Mavs to run away with a trophy after finishing the regular season at a 67-15. What did Dirk and the rest of the Mavettes do? They lost to a ing 8th seed while Dirk won the MVP without even proceeding in the playoffs. Point is, you guys still find a way to lose, in spite of being the heavy favorites. Don't expect this year to be any different.
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