The basis for the foundation of this country was the elimination of native Americans?
I missed that in the declaration of independence.
See Manny, SC will always find new and stupid ways to shock you.
you just attacked units and units of cav scouts as war criminals. as well as any soldier who was involved. Any politician and settler involved in manifest destiny was apart of genocide. And what I said was shocking???
Pretty much. I just remembered why I stopped coming into this forum. I'd rather converse with people who aren't so damn stupid.
that's hillarious. what is so stupid. the fact that i don't think manifest destiny was bad, or a result of a genocidal war? hearing your half put downs and half nonsense, i would be more than happy to not have to read your .
Thank god most kids who grow up in Texas don't pay attention to history class in school anyway.
Manifest Destiny, and it's extension by individuals like Teddy Roosevelt, was the philosophical substantiation for the US incursion into the Philippines.
Various sources peg Filipino deaths from 1899-1902 (the official time frame of the Philippine-American War) from 300,000 to 1.5M.
good point..
within a few years of japanese occupation, over a million were killed by the japs.
These numbers take into account those killed by war, malnutrition, and a cholera epidemic that raged during the war
a b Smallman-Raynor 1998
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philipp...llman-Raynor-6
The Philippines has been an ally of the United States since World War II. It supported American policies during the Cold War and participated in the Korean and Vietnam wars. It was a member of the now dissolved SEATO, a group that was intended to serve a role similar to NATO and that included Australia, France, New Zealand, Pakistan, Thailand, the United Kingdom, and the United States.[52] After the start of the War on Terror, the Philippines was part of the coalition that gave support to the United States in Iraq.[53] The Philippines is currently working with the United States with the intention of ending its domestic insurgency.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippines
I am now even more thankful that my kid's AP US History course uses a college textbook.
Does anyone really think that our Texas public schools benefit from teaching children about the less savory things in our history? It's better to show them the good things and not the bad things, they need a blueprint for events to role model and respect - not events they need to avoid from happening again. Enlightened students are students that question things, and we certainly don't need any of their smart-ass observations and correlations between past/present events. We as a state, then as a country, must kill their ability to analyze and weigh moral issues with an appreciation for the opportunities they have knowing the full price they cost previous generations - or else we risk failure.
I'm not quite certain why you are quoting modern international relations between the Philippines and the United States. Those have no bearing on the turn of the century events that were precipitated by adherence and the expansion of Manifest Destiny.
It is curious though, and this is what Philippine historians have constantly brought up, that malnutrition and disease are brought up to defend those numbers when previously in Philippine history, especially at the end of the 19th century, there were no major epidemics or episodes of countrywide malnutrition on such a massive scale that could be pointed too as precedent. Within that same article that you referenced from Wikipedia, a study in 1908 indicated that countrywide population had decreased by 1 million people. It is quite a coincidence. I am also familiar with that citation and you can already see from the very le (Philippine Insurrection) where the data is likely to fall. Whether you want to argue it was predominately because of war or a combination of other factors the end result is that at a minimum over 1,000,000 Filipinos died under supposedly benevolent American rule in a very short period of time.
And I am well-aware of the Japanese Occupation numbers. In one month, over 100,000 Filipinos were killed in Manila alone: in part because of American s ing of the city and in part because of Japanese atrocities perpetuated on civilians out of anger over how the war went. Again, Japanese Occupation numbers and the current state of Phil-American political relations have little to no bearing on the what occurred at the end of 19th century and early 20th century.
The nature of relations have changed, as has internal perception of the United States - it has been over 100 years. As a result of education policies enacted in 1902 the Philippines quickly became a staunch supporter of the US. A situation that has not changed.
When I was in a history class, the info was already packed. We never got to post ww2. we also were never told the atrocities, until college. Nothing was lost and the short amount of time was not wasted on all the "atrocities". It was a basic review. I also think in american indian discussions, it shouldn't be turned into "we were the bad guys". The indians were fighting and taking each over their land way before europeans got to the continent. i think it is acceptable to display the facts of jackson sending the allie tribes with the tribes we fought. Show the facts of Americans not taking care of certain tribes. Let the students come to their own conclusion. the resources available online now allow kids to find things they couldn't when I was in. This book isn't the only thing now.
Just more reason to be actively involved in your kids' education.
The conservative socialists in charge....or is that fascists?
ABC News Nightline interview with creationist Religious Right fundie Don McLeroy ~ departing Republican member and Chair of the Texas State Board of Education (he lost his re-election to a moderate in the Republican primary earlier this month and his reappointment as Chair of the SBOE has 'ran into trouble'). Nightline details how the fundamentalist right wing agenda is influencing education across the country: "Where ever you live, your student may soon learn from his lessons..."
These people don't want to take America back...they want to take it backwards
HuffAUSTIN, Texas — A far-right faction of the Texas State Board of Education succeeded Friday in injecting conservative ideals into social studies, history and economics lessons that will be taught to millions of students for the next decade.
Teachers in Texas will be required to cover the Judeo-Christian influences of the nation's Founding Fathers, but not highlight the philosophical rationale for the separation of church and state. Curriculum standards also will describe the U.S. government as a "cons utional republic," rather than "democratic," and students will be required to study the decline in value of the U.S. dollar, including the abandonment of the gold standard.
"We have been about conservatism versus liberalism," said Democrat Mavis Knight of Dallas, explaining her vote against the standards. "We have manipulated strands to insert what we want it to be in the do ent, regardless as to whether or not it's appropriate."
Can you imagine this at a National level with Palin, Huck, or any of the other wing-nut social conservative darlins in charge?
nbadan. How is that backwards? we did come from judeo christian values. cons utional republic is a better description. we should talk about how we got off the gold standard and the rise and fall of the us dollar.
See your making the assumption that America was founded on 'judeo christian values'...while there is some evidence supporting the claim that our founders based the very existence of our nation on a 'supreme being', there is also evidence that our founders were well aware of the outright dangers in the collusion of power between religion and poltics, as well they should have been given that their fore-fathers came to America to escape religious prosecution in their own nations....
Relating this back to this asshat....there are national standards in place for teaching all the core subjects in schoosl....TX just doesn't subscribe to them based on the argument of 'more local control', that's the real reason Perry recently turned down $700m in Education stimulus money that could have really helped poor districts in Texas...based in favor of what?
I think we don't want BIG GOVERNMENT'S money because then we have to teach what they want us to teach. We're just fine without being ambiguous with our history lessons and assuming kids have the initiative and intelligence to seek a better understanding of where our country comes from and how their local community fits into it.
Quit supposing the recent generation of children are smart, they are stupid and must be spoon-fed the answers. They might know how to use computers by the age of 4, but they lack creativity because they spend a lot of time in doors watching ty cartoons, listening to ty music, and sometimes they spend time with their ty parents. If WE (Texas) can at least get through to our public school students that America are the good guys, we might be able to stop them from just giving our country away when they become adults and hold the torch.
Pot, meet kettle.
I reject the notion that the Founding Fathers did not believe in Xenu. I have $1,000 for the charity of your choice if you can find any explicit disavowal of Xenu in the Cons ution.
Other proposed changes to Texas Educational Material, by category:
Earth Science: Proof that Texas is the best state, and everything therein is bigger
Politics: Why Texas is the one state allowed to secede, and why they should
Culinary Arts: Why everything tastes better fried
History: How Texas won the Battle at the Alamo, contrary to popular belief
Philosophy: Talk loudly, carry a big stick, and swing it at anyone who comes near, g*ddamnit!
English: A special section on how Jesus Christ is the Word, and explaining how language is impossible without the love of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ
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