Is the health care reform racist?

[ElNono]

Well I might be boring, but you are the idiot in the thread.

schtick, insult

And you aren't worth providing the link, because you are a dishonest person who thinks he's right when he's wrong. Who gets himself in over his head because of a physchological compulsion to change statements. And a stupid one at that.

runaround, strawman, insults

BTW, nice insight on calling the insults...what uncanny insight.

strawman, think he's clever

I want you to go through life thinking tanning doesn't protect you from UV rays. Because you deserve to be stupid

trailer park science, insult, think he's clever and educated.

I gave you enough of a link to prove my point. The failure to comprehend that it is so, is all yours.

runaround, moving of the goalposts





I certify this is an authentic whottt post

[whottt]

And I certify you a dumbass who gets into a quote dialogue with someone who bores you.

[whottt]

Not this black guy.

I had no clue you were black and alway thought you were Mexican.

Maybe you don't like him, but do you understand why everyone else does?

Bill Cosby, Richard Pryor, Eddie Murphy, Redd Foxx, Jaime Foxx(sometimes), those guys I get...I do not get this dude.

[florige]

I had no clue you were black and alway thought you were Mexican.

Maybe you don't like him, but do you understand why everyone else does?

Bill Cosby, Richard Pryor, Eddie Murphy, Redd Foxx, Jaime Foxx(sometimes), those guys I get...I do not get this dude.

Nah been black since birth. I have tried to get with his comedies. But don't get it either. From what I gather, most of my black male friends have the same feeling I do on him and his shows. Its the black females that love this asshole for some reason. His one film with Janet Jackson was okay I guess, but I wouldn't go as far as buying it.

[ElNono]

And I certify you a dumbass who gets into a quote dialogue with someone who bores you.

schtick, insult

[whottt]

Nah been black since birth. I have tried to get with his comedies. But don't get it either. From what I gather, most of my black male friends have the same feeling I do on him and his shows. Its the black females that love this asshole for some reason. His one film with Janet Jackson was okay I guess, but I wouldn't go as far as buying it.

So all those black guys I see at the Tyler Perry concert have been drug there by their women and don't really want to be there. That explains it...he'll be on lifetime network eventually

[Blake]

And blake, well blake reinterprets "some health beneifts" to "totally and wholly good for you with absolutely no negative effects of any kind whatsoover".

No I don't.

I am not saying it is totally and wholly good for you with absolutely no negative effects whatsoever, blake.

I now know you think I deal in nothing but absolutes.

You are either a liar or a moron. Since I don't really deal in absolutes to the extreme, I have no problem with the notion that you are a bit of both.

[LnGrrrR]

Sunscreen has been shown to cause cancer.

In a statistically relevant number of the population? Proof?

That wasn't my statement. My statement was tanning protects you from UV radiation. Simple as that. It does. It protects you from UV radiation.

Are you denying that tanning is CAUSED by UV radiation? Of course not. So, in essence, that is EXACTLY what you're saying, even if you hadn't put those words together in that exact structure.

As far as being dark-complected, uh, no. I'm Irish-German, actually.

[Blake]

Yes because the tanning is a result of the body protecting itself from UV radiaton. And it's possible to expose yourself to it at low levels and be better protected from it at higher levels because of doing so. That's why the body does it. It is an adaptation to this planet. The ability to go from having very light skin to darker skin is also an adapation. It is skin that is adapatable to hot brighter climates where the ability to block or convert UV ray to heat is needed for survival, and also adaptable to colder lighter environments where the ability to absorb UV is needed for survival.

So if Huge Chavez were truly smart he would shut the up about global warming and start sending us all the free oil he can pump.




Really?




That's not my question. And I'd say well enough to serve us as the primary means of protection for 99.99 % of our existence.





Sunscreen has been shown to cause cancer. It is not natural, it is not a result of adaptation to this planet...it is the result of some idiots saying, here, buy this , it'll protect you from skin cancer, and then it turns around and actually causes skin cancer. That is how smart we are. This is also incidentally, why I don't particularly like Doctors sticking ing pills in my face saying here, this is good for you, better than than plant we used for 200,000 years, even though it's made from that plant. And that in turn is why I am kinda of pissed off about the government telling me, hey, you have to go to these guys giving the out.



I have zero intention of covering my body from head to toe in clothing so thefore melanin will be a requirement. And I never said anything about relying soley on melanin.

However since I' don't like pills, I will choose the good old sun or low level UV rays as provided by tanning beds to produce melanin.





No, the Sun produces just about every type of UV ray there is, some more harmful than others and including any kind you can get in a tanning bed, Tanning beds can actually control of the UV rays you get the most of, so that the least damaging ones and ones with other helpful side effects beyond producing melanin are the primary ones you receive, and any of them will cause your body to produce melanin to provide a lasting(but not permanent) ability to convert UV rays to heat.




That wasn't my statement. My statement was tanning protects you from UV radiation. Simple as that. It does. It protects you from UV radiation.

I can say it 1 million times and it will be true every time I say it.

Medical.
Fact.




Ok fine but at no point did I say it prevents sunburn. Although...I actually do think it does protect from sunburn. damn sure it does now that I think about it. And the fact that is even considered debatable, blog link or not, pretty much leads me to the conclusion that you and El Nono are dark complected. And have pretty much had the same threshold for burning your entire lives.

It's hilarious that you won't take any pills or sunblock from the 'man' but you're ok with getting baked by laying on a tanning bed that produces artificial man made light.

[LnGrrrR]

Also, that wikipedia link you provided didn't have any proof that tanning protects someone from harmful UV radiation.

Here's some links that back me up though:

http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-a...s-cause-cancer

http://www.cancer.gov/newscenter/tip...tanning-booths

http://www.tanninginfocenter.com/tan...in-cancer.html

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/...g-cancer_N.htm

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32187497/

Some choice quotes from these articles:

In addition, exposure to tanning salon rays increases damage caused by sunlight because ultraviolet light actually thins the skin, making it less able to heal.

Then, the number of people with skin cancer that had used some type of tanning equipment prior to being diagnosed was compared with the number of non-cancerous individuals who had also used some type of tanning equipment. The result of this study showed that the people who had used a tanning bed, tanning booth, or sun lamp were 2.5 times more likely to develop the squamous type of cancer while the increase of basal cancer was 1.5 times greater when compared to those without cancer.

Additionally, just because tanning equipment emits mostly UVA rays included of UVB rays that too should not fool you. Sure, UVA rays do not cause sunburn as often but studies actually show UVA rays can cause melanoma, the deadliest of all cancers. Then, UVA rays also increase the risk of the other two types of cancers.

A new analysis of about 20 studies concludes the risk of skin cancer jumps by 75% when people start using tanning beds before age 30. Experts also found that all types of ultraviolet radiation caused worrying mutations in mice, proof the radiation is carcinogenic. Previously, only one type of ultraviolet radiation was thought to be lethal.

Cogliano cautioned that ultraviolet radiation is not healthy, whether it comes from a tanning bed or from the sun.

Rebuttal?

[TeyshaBlue]

Honestly, I've argued some re ed points before. But this is something pretty special.

[rjv]

Link to me saying smoking is good for you? I said it does have some health benefits, I didn't say it was good for you.

If you have no genetic tendency to develop cancer but a heavy tendency to develop parkinsons or alzheimers...it actually could be good for you.

I also didn't say tanning is good for you, I said it has health benefits. Health benefits that white people tend to be more in need of than people with darker skin.

Very few things are simply, good for you.


It seems you, are missing the chromosome that allows you to differentiate between health benefits and good for you so I have an idea that may help with the break through. Let's you and I meet...it can even be at a face slapping bar if you like...

Every time I smoke a cigarette, you simply drink a glass of water. I think the general consensus is that smoking is bad for you and water is good for you...I mean tobacco makes up no part of the human body whereas water makes up 60% of it. In fact you could say we are water and it wouldn't be a totally inaccurate statement.


But anyway, let's you and I meet, every time I smoke a cigarette, you drink a glass of water, and whoever goes to the hospital first loses the contest but gains a better understanding of the difference between health benefits, and good for you. I call it a win win...it'll be good for you.


I'll make a side bet of a years health insurance you wind up in the hospital first

nothing like a nice bet over a squamous cell carcinoma.

[florige]

So all those black guys I see at the Tyler Perry concert have been drug there by their women and don't really want to be there. That explains it...he'll be on lifetime network eventually

So you are saying you have gone under your own free will?

[Blake]

nothing like a nice bet over a squamous cell carcinoma.

Na, he's pretty sure he won't get cancer before I drown.

If I recall, smoking isn't 100% bad for you. It CAN have some health benefits.

Meanwhile, water isn't 100% good for you. Believe it or not, according to whottt, it actually CAN kill you.

It's just an urban legend that if you fall into a swimming pool and you can't swim that you can save yourself by just drinking all the water up.

[Blake]

So you are saying you have gone under your own free will?

if I recall, he does some kind of security at concerts.

[ElNono]

As far as being dark-complected, uh, no. I'm Irish-German, actually.

I'm as white as you can get also. Northern Italian descent...

[florige]

if I recall, he does some kind of security at concerts.

Oh, I guess he gets a pass then. lol

So all those black guys I see at the Tyler Perry concert have been drug there by their women and don't really want to be there. That explains it...he'll be on lifetime network eventually

I also never got the whole Madea thing where he throws on a wig and dresses up in drag?

[Winehole23]

I also never got the whole Madea thing where he throws on a wig and dresses up in drag?

It was funny when Flip Wilson did it.

[whottt]

In a statistically relevant number of the population? Proof?

I don't know, I know that the one time I used it it ed my skin up.

Are you denying that tanning is CAUSED by UV radiation?

No, I'm stating that tanning proctects you from UV radiation.

Of course not. So, in essence, that is EXACTLY what you're saying, even if you hadn't put those words together in that exact structure.

Why it necessary to change my quote to make your points? Why can none of you rebut the point without changing my statement?

As far as being dark-complected, uh, no. I'm Irish-German, actually.

Then I guess you guys have never had a suntan.

[whottt]

Also, that wikipedia link you provided didn't have any proof that tanning protects someone from harmful UV radiation.

Here's some links that back me up though:

http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-a...s-cause-cancer

http://www.cancer.gov/newscenter/tip...tanning-booths

http://www.tanninginfocenter.com/tan...in-cancer.html

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/...g-cancer_N.htm

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32187497/

Some choice quotes from these articles:











Rebuttal?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melanocyte


Either that article is going over you guys heads or ya'll aren't reading it.


If if is that you just simply don't understand that article let me know I willl be happy to clarify it.

But I already posted the scientific proof, a very detailed description in fact. The most detailed description I could find.

[whottt]

I now know you think I deal in nothing but absolutes.

You are either a liar or a moron. .

Way to prove your point Einstein

[whottt]

Na, he's pretty sure he won't get cancer before I drown.

Link to me mentioning drowning?

If I recall, smoking isn't 100% bad for you. It CAN have some health benefits.

Exactly. Among them are the prevention of Parkinsons, Alzheimers, certain forms of breast cancer. It can speed up your reactions...

So yes, it can have some health benefits. It fact it's not even a matter of can...it does have certain health benefits.

This does not mean it's automatically good for you.

Meanwhile, water isn't 100% good for you. Believe it or not, according to whottt, it actually CAN kill you.

Synaptic growth is a painful experience, I understand your anger, but gratu y would be much more appropriate.

It's just an urban legend that if you fall into a swimming pool and you can't swim that you can save yourself by just drinking all the water up.

Who in the said about drowing...

This is exactly what I mean when I said sense is never common in a discussion with you. You actually think being obtuse is some kind of cleverness.

[Blake]

Way to prove your point Einstein

I proved that you are a liar

[whottt]

I'm not the guy that changes peoples quotes, or back pedals from arguing position. That is you.

You know in that smoking argument you completely contradicted yourself in the span of two posts, in fact you made a direct statement that I quoted, and then you turned right around and reversed.

It was at that point I stopped arguing with you about it.

You don't even realize you did it do you?

[whottt]

So blake, when I say to you, smoking does have some health benefits...

How do you respond to that statement?

Go ahead...respond. I want to see if your response changed from the first time I said it. Since I am such a liar.