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  1. #176
    Part-time fighter Carwin making it look easy
    By Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports


    NEWARK, N.J. – If Shane Carwin keeps this up, he’s going to give mixed martial arts a bad name.

    This is the sport that takes a lifetime to master. It requires hours upon hours of daily training. It humbles even the greatest of athletes and the strongest of men.

    You don’t do MMA as a side job and win championships against the best in the world.

    At least, that was the conventional wisdom before Carwin came along and blew that school of thought to bits.

    Carwin still holds down a full-time job as an engineer and is a married father of a newborn daughter. That’s plenty to make the average man weary at the end of a lengthy day. When other men are calling it a day, however, is when Carwin is just beginning.

    On Saturday in the co-main event of UFC 111 at the Prudential Center, he showed he’s pretty good at his side job, too.

    He needed just three minutes, 48 seconds of the first round to obliterate Frank Mir, as he had his 11 previous opponents, to claim the interim UFC heavyweight le and earn the right to face champion Brock Lesnar at UFC 116 on July 3.

    Carwin had never gone beyond 2:11 in any of his previous professional bouts, and he entered Saturday’s fight with Mir hounded by skeptics.

    He was quizzed about his conditioning and whether he’d be able to go deep into a fight with Mir. None of his 11 victims, save for Gabriel Gonzaga, could compare to the who’s who of MMA stars that Mir had beaten, so many suggested Carwin was in over his head.

    Mir’s jiu-jitsu is deadly and his boxing very technical, and there are many who believed he was too complete and too gifted for Carwin.

    A few left uppercuts and a couple of hard punches on the ground, though, left Mir in a heap and pushed Carwin to the tippy top of a suddenly loaded heavyweight division.

    He overpowered Mir just like he’d overpowered so many others. He may not have been technical, but he sure was effective.

    “The plan was to push Frank up against the fence and dirty box him,” Carwin said. “I’m kind of mean and aggressive there. We worked on that all camp, just getting him to the fence and beating him up and trying to take him into the later rounds.”

    Mir took Carwin longer than he’d ever been before, but he did little offensively. And none of that surprised the man who had beaten Mir for the le at UFC 100. Lesnar was seated at ringside and smirked when he watched Mir pull himself off the canvas.

    He was confident he’d be facing Carwin, and the way the fight played out confirmed his su ions.

    “I kind of figured Shane was going to win, though I know anything can happen in this sport,” Lesnar said. “I was kind of laying back and I didn’t want to count any chickens before they hatched. Shane’s a tough guy and I just know that Frank’s time is done. This is the new evolution of the heavyweight division. Brock Lesnar, Shane Carwin, Cain Velasquez, Junior dos Santos, we’re the guys in this division.”

    Neither Lesnar nor Carwin is too thrilled that Carwin won an interim championship. The bout was made for the interim le while Lesnar was sidelined by diverticulitis, an illness that forced him to pull out of a bout with Carwin slated for UFC 106 last November.

    After the bout was signed, it was deemed that it would be for the interim belt. UFC president Dana White didn’t feel it was right to withdraw recognition after the fight had been made and Lesnar had announced his return.

    Though Carwin lugged the belt to the post-fight news conference, he knows he needs another win before he can truly call himself the champion.

    “Brock’s the champion,” Carwin said, graciously.

    Lesnar praised Carwin’s performance and said he was happy Mir didn’t win so he didn’t have to fight the same man a third time. Lesnar is 4-1 and if he would have met Mir again, it would have been his third fight with Mir in six career fights.

    Carwin put an end to that by blowing Mir out. While that earned Lesnar’s partial respect, he wasn’t going too far.

    “This belt thing, well, hopefully he enjoys the moment,” Lesnar said, grinning, as Carwin posed a few feet away in the cage for photographers. “He should enjoy the win over Frank, but he has to realize that I’m the heavyweight champion. Everybody knows that. Good for him winning that fake belt.

    “I had to pull out against him last fall and I didn’t feel good about that. But I couldn’t fight a guy like that if I wasn’t in the best shape of my life. I had to do what I had to do.”

    Carwin did what he had to do as well, setting up what figures to be one of the UFC’s biggest pay-per-views ever.

    Lesnar said he’s healthy and able to fight in July, and Carwin came out of the event without a scratch.

    Fans love heavyweights, particularly heavyweights who can punch. UFC president Dana White knows he’s sitting on a gold mine with a Lesnar-Carwin bout upcoming, particularly as he puts together a highlight reel of their knockouts.

    He said Carwin should have ended any doubts about his qualifications to fight for the belt by decimating a fighter as talented and respected as Mir.

    “Shane finished Frank Mir very quickly tonight,” White said. “There isn’t a person in this room or at home watching on television who wasn’t blown away by Frank’s last performance. If you thought Frank Mir was going to win the fight, you said, ‘Yeah, he’ll probably beat Cheick Kongo,’ but you didn’t think he was going to drop him in the standup. Nobody did. Nobody expected that to happen. He dropped him and went over and submitted him and Frank Mir looked unstoppable.

    “He was in great shape tonight, but Shane Carwin went out there and stopped him, easily. He finished Frank Mir in the first round tonight, like all those other fights, and you’re out of your mind if you don’t think that Shane has a chance against Brock Lesnar.”

    He clearly has a chance against Lesnar, which should thrill the thousands of MMA fans who have made Lesnar the man they love to hate.

    Speaking of hate, though, some of his peers may begin to hate on Carwin if he wins the outright le while holding down a day job, raising a young family and training in his spare time.

    He’s making them all look bad by beating guys like Mir and Gonzaga as essentially a part-time fighter.

    If he does the same to Lesnar, UFC lightweight champion B.J. Penn may have to share his nickname, “The Prodigy,” with Carwin.

    “I do this because I love to do it, not because I have to do it,” Carwin said. “That makes a huge difference.”

  2. #177
    St. Pierre’s standards are above and beyond
    By Dave Meltzer, Yahoo! Sports


    NEWARK, N.J. – Nobody left particularly happy after Georges St. Pierre’s retained his Ultimate Fighting Championship welterweight le with a domination of Dan Hardy in the main event of Saturday night’s UFC 111.

    St. Pierre wasn’t happy, even after winning five straight rounds to extend his UFC record to 25 straight-round victories dating back nearly three years.

    He came in with a plan to take the fight down to the ground, and win via submission. The first part of his game plan was flawless. The second wasn’t.

    St. Pierre had a few close opportunities to finish, most notably an armbar in the first round and a Kimura in the fourth round.

    But a combination of what St. Pierre said was a minor technical flaw in the application of the moves, and the guts of Hardy in refusing to tap when things appeared bleak, saw the British star survive to the final horn, losing on scores of 50-43, 50-44 and 50-45.

    “I was disappointed in my performance,” said St. Pierre (20-2). “I tried to finish him with an armbar and a Kimura. I forgot the technical application. I used an incorrect angle and the wrong leverage.”

    Right after the fight, St. Pierre (ever the perfectionist) went straight to his Jiu Jitsu coach and asked what was wrong. He was told the mistakes he made, and said he would never make them again. He noted that in training, people would tap out to those moves right away to avoid injury, but in a fight, the mentality is different, and people will fight to the end to escape.

    Hardy (23-7, 1 no-contest), for his part, couldn’t have been happy to be in a fight in which he was heavily booed by the pro-St. Pierre crowd. Still, Hardy, a native of Nottingham, England, won praise for his survival ability and and was still fighting his heart out in round five. But he got almost no offense in for 25 minutes.

    Hardy expected to be taken down, but he was able to get to his feet and then tried implementing a stand-up game, where he believed he had the edge.

    It didn’t happen. St. Pierre took him down at will, ten times in ten attempts over five rounds. The few times Hardy got back up, or got a momentary positional advantage in the case St. Pierre missed on a submission attempt, St. Pierre would immediately get out of trouble and take him right back down.

    The crowd of about 17,000 fans, which paid a gate of $4 million at the Prudential Center, reacted more to seeing the popular St. Pierre fight and less so because the fight was all that exciting.

    Arguably UFC’s most popular fighter, St. Pierre was heavily cheered throughout the first three rounds, but in the fourth, when St. Pierre opened the round with another takedown, the crowd groaned. When he opened the fifth round with another takedown, the move was greeted with a smattering of boos, likely the first for St. Pierre since he became one of the sport’s megastars.

    UFC president Dana White conceded that the reaction of people watching on pay-per-view wasn’t positive.

    “My twitter account was burning up and people weren’t happy,” said White. “They were saying we wanted to see a fight, not an amateur wrestling match.”

    White said he didn’t agree, noting that this was mixed martial arts and the object is to exploit weaknesses, and Hardy’s takedown defense was a weakness. He said St. Pierre’s game plan wasn’t to stand and trade, something St. Pierre, who always looks at fights like a mathematical equation, later confirmed.

    “I take the fight where I have the highest percentage chance of winning,” said St. Pierre. “Even though I think I could beat Dan Hardy in a stand-up, that is his strength. He’s weaker on the ground so my game plan was to take it there.”

    But he admitted frustration at his inability to finish with a submission on the ground.

    “When you go in looking for a submission, you often don’t get it. I’m stronger than I was and went to physically force a submission and I didn’t use the correct technique.”

    The night was supposed to be a showcase for the welterweight division because St. Pierre was defending, and the consensus No. 2 and No. 3 fighters, Jon Fitch and Thiago Alves, were scheduled to battle for what would have likely been the next le shot. Fitch and Alves both had previous shots at St. Pierre, going the distance but losing five straight rounds as part of his streak.

    Alves, though, had a medical issue come up in an MRI of his brain on Wednesday, and was not cleared to fight.

    Fitch (25-3, 1 no contest) won a 30-27 decision over replacement fighter Ben Saunders (8-2-2). Similar to St. Pierre, Fitch won a match in which he mostly took Saunders down, although he had to fight harder than St. Pierre to get his takedowns.

    Fitch smothered Saunders on the ground in what was also not a crowd-pleasing performance.

    Unlike St. Pierre, who has so much star power the audience stayed interested in a one-sided match, Fitch did not get the same benefit from the crowd, which lost interest as the fight went on.

    Fears regarding Alves’ future as a fighter were alleviated after he saw a specialist on Friday in New York. He will be undergoing a minor surgical procedure on Wednesday, will be able to train two weeks later and is expected to be able to fight soon.

    White notes Fitch vs. Alves could still take place, depending on the schedule. Fitch, at the post-fight press conference, immediately threw his name into the hat for a rematch.

    “I’m 12-1 in the UFC, with one loss to GSP,” he said. “I’ve won four straight. I wish they would have been finishers. But I’m a much better fighter than when I fought Georges the first time [nearly two years ago].”

    White responded, half jokingly, that if he wanted a le shot, he should fight Josh Koscheck, his teammate and training partner at the San Jose, Calif., based American Kickboxing Academy. Fitch said that wouldn’t happen.

    “If we were to fight, it would be in the gym with the doors closed,” said Fitch.

    “That’ll make a lot of money,” said White sarcastically in response.

    Selling a St. Pierre-Fitch rematch would be difficult because after their first match, it wouldn’t be easy to sell the idea that Fitch could win.

    “Every time it’s a different fight,” said St. Pierre, who disagreed with that assessment. “He’s improved. I’m a different fighter.”

    But Fitch wouldn’t be alone. St. Pierre’s takedowns and ground control is so good that nobody who isn’t an excellent wrestler can stop him. Neither Fitch nor Matt Hughes could, and both are very good wrestlers.

    Koscheck won a round from St. Pierre and was the last opponent to have a compe ive match with him, a 2007 fight that St. Pierre won via unanimous decision. Stylistically, he would stand the best chance to at least make it a back-and-forth fight. And from a business standpoint, because of Koscheck’s personality, it would probably be the most successful match in the division as well.

    Koscheck faces Paul Daley, a great striker, on May 8 in Montreal, in a match that could go either way. Daley, unfortunately, has similar strengths and weaknesses as Hardy. Daley may be a better stand-up fighter than either St. Pierre or Hardy, but a St. Pierre vs. Daley match figures to go almost identical to Saturday’s fight.

  3. #178
    $65,000 bonuses at UFC 111
    By Ken Pishna/MMAWeekly.com

    The Ultimate Fighting Championship returned to the East Coast on Saturday for UFC 111, featuring two le fights before a raucous crowd at The Prudential Center in Newark, N.J.

    Shane Carwin not only walked away with the interim UFC heavyweight le and a shot at current champion Brock Lesnar’s le in July, he also earned the Knockout of the Night bonus of $65,000.

    He devastated former champion Frank Mir with uppercuts, dropping him to the mat, before following him down with several more blows that ended the fight in devastating fashion.

    Lightweight contender Kurt Pellegrino racked up his fourth straight victory by submitting Fabricio Camoes at UFC 111. He escaped a near submission in the early moments of the fight, but turned the tide and cinched on a fight ending rear naked choke on the Royler Gracie trained Camoes in round two. The submission scored him a $65,000 bonus check of his own for Submission of the Night.

    The Fight of the Night went to two upstarts in the promotion, Jared Hamman and Rodney Wallace, who battled it out on the preliminary portion of the fight card. The two put on an exciting back and forth battle with Hamman using his striking to edge out a unanimous decision. However, Hamman and Wallace each go home with an extra $65,000 for their efforts.

  4. #179
    Being in the crowd last night some booing did go on. In Round 1 when GSP had that armbar and looked like it was going to be over the whole Prudential Center was going ape . But yes by the 4th they were getting a little restless about the takedowns. I agree with that article that GSP may be setting impossible standards for himself. He is my favorite fighter of all time and i found myself a little confused by some of his tactics with Hardy. But he dominated and was never in danger of being beat of even hurt. One thing i will say is that Hardy did not do, what he said he was going to do on the feet. He said he was going to not worry about the takedown and let it go hard on the feet every shot he got. Not one exchange did Hardy let it go with bad intentions..

  5. #180
    PRICELESS SPURS FAN polandprzem's Avatar
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    Umm, the fans in america are really not that great when I'm looking at UFC

    All that booing ? What's that? That are not real fans who are booing GSP when he is fighting pretty phenomenal.

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    PRICELESS SPURS FAN polandprzem's Avatar
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    Damn I even getting pissed. That was one of the best cards ever and the viewers were booing and are not satisfied. And they dare to twitt at Dana that the card was no good ?

    what

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    Damn I even getting pissed. That was one of the best cards ever and the viewers were booing and are not satisfied. And they dare to twitt at Dana that the card was no good ?

    what

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    People were drunk off their ass in the crowd and fans are just whiners by nature..

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    Motivation for me... Stringer_Bell's Avatar
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    He is my favorite fighter of all time and i found myself a little confused by some of his tactics with Hardy.
    Rounds 3-4, his corner said not to pass, rain down from the top, and wait to GnP in the last 10 seconds. Round 5, his corner told him to wait until the last 30 seconds to pass and then GnP. I was kind of confused too, but maybe they respected Hardy's stand up so much they felt it was better to not even take a chance letting him get to his feet. As a previous fan of Hardy, I was dissappointed in his performance, not cuz he got pwned, but because he didn't explode at any point.

    That one ref that kept standing up legit ground fights could have gotten GSP tagged during the fight, lucky he got to work according to his gameplan without interference.

  9. #184
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    I dont think its possible to watch Fitch fight without falling asleep..

  10. #185
    I dont think its possible to watch Fitch fight without falling asleep..
    The crowd last night agreed with this

  11. #186
    The storm has been brewing for a while. UFC president Dana White simply does not understand why teammates in the same weight class won't fight one another. The trio of welterweights from American Kickboxing Academy -- Mike Swick, Josh Koscheck and Jon Fitch -- have vowed to never fight each other. It's something that annoys White so when Fitch started stating his case for a rematch against welterweight champ Georges St. Pierre, the prez went on the attack.

    "There's nothing more important to me than fighting for the le. I'm 12-1 in the UFC with one loss to GSP. I'm a better fighter than the first time we fought. And I want a le shot," said Fitch during the postfight press conference for UFC 111.

    White responded by suggesting that Fitch should fight Koscheck next. When Fitch was asked if he was open to fighting his teammate for the No. 1 spot, he quickly said no.

    "I guess he doesn't want the le shot that badly," said a smiling White.

    Fitch joked that if the fight has to happen it'll be behind closed doors at the gym. White joked, "that'll make a lot of money."

    White expanded on the whole teammate issue after the press conference.

    "We're all friends and [expletive]," said White. "Like Jon said 'I want that le so bad.' Really? How bad do you want it?"

    Because of their reluctance to fight one another, White also said it's a possibility both Koscheck and Fitch could get passed over for the next shot at GSP.

    "There's no reason two guys can't go out and compete against each other to see who's better. It's over man, this whole 'we don't want to fight each other thing.' How long can it go on when you've got two top guys in the same division and they won't fight each other?"

    All three AKA fighters have been ranked in the top 10 at 170 for much of the last two years. But since they won't fight each other they've had to face guys much lower in the rankings. Swick and Koscheck have both been victims of upsets and temporarily lost their shot at St. Pierre. Meanwhile, Fitch (22-3, 12-1 UFC) has looked lackluster against some lesser names. St. Pierre and Fitch squared off at UFC 87 with the Canadian picking up a lopsided win by decision.

    When discussing the welterweight division and who gets GSP next, White teased the media a bit saying he was working on something concerning the May 8th fight at UFC 113 between Koscheck and Brit Paul Daley.

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    Copy and paste this cornbread's Avatar
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    I still can't believe Hardy actually pulled off the rolling armbar escape that Serra was teaching on the show.

  13. #188
    Thank God I'm a country boy! djohn14's Avatar
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    GSP is roided up like Barry Bonds

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    Inthe land of audiophiles angelbelow's Avatar
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    I dont really feel bad for Mir at all. his hype is self induced.

    I respect him as a fighter and I actually think his stand up is better (shane just had a better gameplan) but his trash talking has gotten out of hand.

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    I dont really feel bad for Mir at all. his hype is self induced.

    I respect him as a fighter and I actually think his stand up is better (shane just had a better gameplan) but his trash talking has gotten out of hand.
    Agreed. Dammit.

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    Thank God I'm a country boy! djohn14's Avatar
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    Dammit Dbreiden Ive been trying to draw a response out of you since last night!

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    GSP is roided up like Barry Bonds
    Nah he lacks the roid rage, the way he showed pity on Hardy last night..


    Dammit Dbreiden Ive been trying to draw a response out of you since last night!
    LOL, why? What about this fight has you fired up??

  18. #193
    ufc 111 mastering the cage hugs

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    Thank God I'm a country boy! djohn14's Avatar
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    LOL, why? What about this fight has you fired up??
    Haha nothing really...but GSPs getting jacked. Maybe Ive just missed it in his last couple fights, but he looked bigger...and his neck...well he didnt really seem to have much of one. Maybe I was just too tired last night...but it looked like somebody was juiced up haha.

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    Motivation for me... Stringer_Bell's Avatar
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    Haha nothing really...but GSPs getting jacked. Maybe Ive just missed it in his last couple fights, but he looked bigger...and his neck...well he didnt really seem to have much of one. Maybe I was just too tired last night...but it looked like somebody was juiced up haha.
    Really? I actually thought he looked a little smaller at the weigh ins than I remember him.

    Also, Carwin's strategy was pretty damn genius. Wanna pound your opponent (make some nice imprints on his face), but not let him work his BJJ on the ground? Hold him against the cage and punch through his attempts at controlling your bicep! It's easier said than done, but Carwin did it pretty easily. I don't think Mir expected that at all, I sure didn't.

  21. #196
    The Fight of the Night went to two upstarts in the promotion, Jared Hamman and Rodney Wallace, who battled it out on the preliminary portion of the fight card. The two put on an exciting back and forth battle with Hamman using his striking to edge out a unanimous decision. However, Hamman and Wallace each go home with an extra $65,000 for their efforts.
    Not sure if it was fight of the night but it was one of the funniest fights I have ever seen. Hamman couldn't stay standing, he throw a kick and end up on his ass, and Wallace was so gassed after 2 mins I thought he was going to be the first fighter to pass out from exhaustion.

  22. #197
    I dont think its possible to watch Fitch fight without falling asleep..
    Sure, if you don't know anything about wrestling. Just like a typical Suns fan (or in this case a mavs fan) you can't recognize greatness in anything but the ultimate highlight type of match. As Joe Rogan said during the fight in response to the boos, "that's just the meathead factor"

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    White Mormon Pride The TroutBum's Avatar
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    Sure, if you don't know anything about wrestling. Just like a typical Suns fan (or in this case a mavs fan) you can't recognize greatness in anything but the ultimate highlight type of match. As Joe Rogan said during the fight in response to the boos, "that's just the meathead factor"
    I agree w/ this to some extent. I was watching the fights with a group of 14, and I only knew 3 of the people there -- of course, there was this know-it-all nozzle who had to comment on everything, including how horrible GSP and Fitch are to watch, etc. That's fine, make a comment about it, but every single time a take down happened or it went to the clinch, he had to open his gob and spew that some old . I wanted to bash his face in.

    That being said, I HATE watching Randy fight for the very reason I just ed about. I suck.

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    nice job guys...

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    nice job guys...
    Damnit, when I saw you posted I figured it was a defense of Fitch's fighting style!

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