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  1. #26
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    What's up with all these things Gasol says. Does he request to be interviewed every day?

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    He wrote in his book that he wasn't surprised when he heard Kobe was accused of rape..LOL..what does that mean?..you're going to twist it, but it really can't mean anything else..before you say he could have meant that he wasn't surprised because of what some women will do for fame/money, he then went on to explain how Kobe has some aggressiveness issues..pretty clear what he meant..

    Also, while this isn't proof or anything, he gave Kobe a book about a rapist earlier this season..it's pretty clear what Phil Jackson thinks of Kobe..

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    He wrote in his book that he wasn't surprised when he heard Kobe was accused of rape..LOL..what does that mean?..you're going to twist it, but it really can't mean anything else..before you say he could have meant that he wasn't surprised because of what some women will do for fame/money, he then went on to explain how Kobe has some aggressiveness issues..pretty clear what he meant..

    Also, while this isn't proof or anything, he gave Kobe a book about a rapist earlier this season..it's pretty clear what Phil Jackson thinks of Kobe..
    Why would he be surprised? He knows full well what goes on with players and the groupies etc. He knows full well the limelight these players are in. I don't have to speculate on what I thought he meant or not. I wouldn't be surprised to hear of any player accused of anything. You can read what you want into his comments. I'm sure your Kobe hatred doesn't cloud your objectivity at all. I'm sure PJ getting fired just prior to the book being published didn't distort his either.

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    I dislike Kobe as much as the next person. But it was proven that Kobe didn't rape that hoe. That Hoe, eneded up having sex with 2 other guys, like the next day or so.

    Name anyone that gets raped and goes out partying afterwards and gets laid again?
    And brags about it.

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    That was wearing panties with more nuts than Planters.

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    None of those things have been proven at all..they're all impossible to prove..

    Anyways, I don't know whether Kobe did it, the only 2 people that know are them..the rest of us have to go by opinion, and I believe he did it..I'm not here to argue about it though, I only brought it up because ChrisRichards said Phil never takes shots at Kobe..I don't want to argue about it, it's sad to talk about, poor girl..anyways..

    You guys aren't arguing with me in this thread, you're arguing with Phil Jackson..he seems to believe Kobe is a rapist..take it up with him..send him fan mail, or maybe he has twitter or something..get at him..

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    I said Phil never took a shot at Kobe during his second stint with the Lakers which is true.

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    I said Phil never took a shot at Kobe during his second stint with the Lakers which is true.
    He takes shots at Kobe all the time. Wrong again...

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    He takes shots at Kobe all the time. Wrong again...
    Example pls. Thanks.

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    None of those things have been proven at all..they're all impossible to prove..

    Anyways, I don't know whether Kobe did it, the only 2 people that know are them..the rest of us have to go by opinion, and I believe he did it..I'm not here to argue about it though, I only brought it up because ChrisRichards said Phil never takes shots at Kobe..I don't want to argue about it, it's sad to talk about, poor girl..anyways..

    You guys aren't arguing with me in this thread, you're arguing with Phil Jackson..he seems to believe Kobe is a rapist..take it up with him..send him fan mail, or maybe he has twitter or something..get at him..
    You dont know that he did it or not yet you have no problem calling him a rapist ad nasuem throughout this board. Saying it's my opinion Kobe is a rapist and Kobe is a rapist are apples and oranges. So PJ saying he wasn't surprised to hear Kobe was accused is PJ saying he believes Kobe is a rapist? Nice stretch!

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    Phil on Kobe accusation of sexual assault : "Not surprised"


    Phils choice of book for Kobe this Season: "Montana 1948".

    Plot

    When David's family's Native American housekeeper Marie falls ill, Frank Hayden, the local doctor and David's uncle, is called. When Marie refuses medical treatment, David's parents, Wes, the local sheriff, and Gail discover that Frank has been preying on the local native American women, raping and molesting them. Wes confronts Frank at a dinner at their father's house. Wes and Gail reach a compromise. When Marie is found dead, Frank convinces the family it is pneumonia which has killed her. Not until later that day does David admit to his parents that he saw his uncle exit their house at approximately the time of Marie's death. Wes goes to work investigating this and eventually arrests his own brother and holds him captive in the Haydens' basement to avoid the embarrassment Frank would experience by going to the local jail. Eventually this all gets too much for Gail and she wishes for Frank to be released out of her home. When Wes talks to his brother, Frank doesn't deny killing Marie and molesting numerous other Indian women. Wes' moral values override his family loyalty and he is obliged to take his brother to be locked up in the local jail the next day. Later that night the family wake to the sound of jars smashing in the basement. In the morning Wes finds that Frank has committed suicide by slitting his wrists with the glass.

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    Phil on Kobe accusation of sexual assault : "Not surprised"


    Phils choice of book for Kobe this Season: "Montana 1948".

    Plot

    When David's family's Native American housekeeper Marie falls ill, Frank Hayden, the local doctor and David's uncle, is called. When Marie refuses medical treatment, David's parents, Wes, the local sheriff, and Gail discover that Frank has been preying on the local native American women, raping and molesting them. Wes confronts Frank at a dinner at their father's house. Wes and Gail reach a compromise. When Marie is found dead, Frank convinces the family it is pneumonia which has killed her. Not until later that day does David admit to his parents that he saw his uncle exit their house at approximately the time of Marie's death. Wes goes to work investigating this and eventually arrests his own brother and holds him captive in the Haydens' basement to avoid the embarrassment Frank would experience by going to the local jail. Eventually this all gets too much for Gail and she wishes for Frank to be released out of her home. When Wes talks to his brother, Frank doesn't deny killing Marie and molesting numerous other Indian women. Wes' moral values override his family loyalty and he is obliged to take his brother to be locked up in the local jail the next day. Later that night the family wake to the sound of jars smashing in the basement. In the morning Wes finds that Frank has committed suicide by slitting his wrists with the glass.


    Seriously though..the quote should be enough, since it's a pretty ridiculous thing for PJ to say, very telling..

    Then out of the millions of possible books, Phil Jackson picks this one for Kobe? LOL..come on..

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    Seriously though..the quote should be enough, since it's a pretty ridiculous thing for PJ to say, very telling..

    Then out of the millions of possible books, Phil Jackson picks this one for Kobe? LOL..come on..
    Seriously? Seems more like a jab between friends to me. Like, i'll toss him this book to get a reaction and well laugh about it. You seriously think he was trying to send some veiled message? Come on. You guys read way too much into everything. Your Kobe obsessions are legendary! And amusing...

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    Phil took a shot at Kobe a couple of months ago against Memphis. That was the game when Kobe took like 30 plus shots to score 40 points to go ahead of Jerry West on the Lakers scoring list. The Lakers ended up losing that game.
    Thank you for pointing out the obvious.

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    Phil took a shot at Kobe a couple of months ago against Memphis. That was the game when Kobe took like 30 plus shots to score 40 points to go ahead of Jerry West on the Lakers scoring list. The Lakers ended up losing that game.
    Pau Gasol and Fisher did. Phil was mum about it. He metioned having a balanced game but nothing directly at Kobe/

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    Seriously? Seems more like a jab between friends to me. Like, i'll toss him this book to get a reaction and well laugh about it. You seriously think he was trying to send some veiled message? Come on. You guys read way too much into everything. Your Kobe obsessions are legendary! And amusing...
    This seems to be how you are as a person, I'm not going to hate on that because I can't, that's just how you are..

    You found Gasol's racist picture to be a joke, and now you're saying Phil Jackson and Kobe are joking about rape..rape is not a "jab" my friend, it's an extremely serious act, it's something I take very seriously..

    You seem to have quite the sense of humor though, Cob..big comedy fan?..

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    Of course you can have a opinion, but you can't call him a rapist without having evidence that he did it.

    You can say I believe he did it, but stating " Kobe is a rapist" without evidence is pretty stupid.
    Those little distinctions are never grasped by those who hate. Their opinion is fact regardless of reality.

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    Those little distinctions are never grasped by those who hate. Their opinion is fact regardless of reality.
    I clearly said it wasn't a fact, it's my opinion..

    Everybody here knows my username well, I've already made my opinion clear on this matter..I'm not going to write "I believe" or "it's my opinion" every time I'm trolling or talking about it in general, especially when everybody already knows what my stance is on this subject..

    Do you really want me to write that every time I mention Kobe's rape?(which is usually to annoy Laker fans)..that's reaching bro..

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    Kobe is probably innocent, but it does'nt change the fact that he's a snitch. Rattin on your teammates just to get out of your own mess? All time low.

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    This seems to be how you are as a person, I'm not going to hate on that because I can't, that's just how you are..

    You found Gasol's racist picture to be a joke, and now you're saying Phil Jackson and Kobe are joking about rape..rape is not a "jab" my friend, it's an extremely serious act, it's something I take very seriously..

    You seem to have quite the sense of humor though, Cob..big comedy fan?..
    Thank you!

    I found Gasol picture to be in bad taste and just silly. I found the uproar about it to be amusing and part of today's society where everyone is so sensitive and nobody can laugh at themselves. I find you still bringing it up just plain hillarious.

    You are en led to take "rape" seriously. I have no problem with that. I am en led to have an opinion on why I think PJ would send him that book. Was someone actually raped because PJ gave him the book? You really need to lighten up. You call Kobe a rapist ALL the time. Not that its your opinion. You outright call him a rapist. Funny how your superior moral standards have so much disdain over alleged incidents yet don't come into play when you make accusations with no basis in fact.

    I ask you again since you never answered.... Have you ever told an off color joke?
    Last edited by cobbler; 04-02-2010 at 12:11 AM.

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    I clearly said it wasn't a fact, it's my opinion..

    Everybody here knows my username well, I've already made my opinion clear on this matter..I'm not going to write "I believe" or "it's my opinion" every time I'm trolling or talking about it in general, especially when everybody already knows what my stance is on this subject..

    Do you really want me to write that every time I mention Kobe's rape?(which is usually to annoy Laker fans)..that's reaching bro..
    Since everybody knows your stance... then why do you feel the need to continually bring it up at every opportunity?

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    Phil took a shot at Kobe a couple of months ago against Memphis. That was the game when Kobe took like 30 plus shots to score 40 points to go ahead of Jerry West on the Lakers scoring list. The Lakers ended up losing that game.
    Pau Gasol and Fisher did. Phil was mum about it. He metioned having a balanced game but nothing directly at Kobe/
    And yet you started a thread about it led:

    Gasol, Phil Jackson upset about Kobe's shooting

    with the following in the original post:

    Phil... "At halftime, I told everybody he's forcing the action, so let's get him over the hump so we can play some team ball.... but it looks like we never did"

    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145733


    Ouuuuch!!!!

    I'm gonna love this backpeddle!
    Last edited by cobbler; 04-02-2010 at 12:55 AM.

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    it was never proven that kobe raped the girl---but it was never proven that he did not...

    maybe a rape never occurred and she is as bad as some people say

    maybe kobe really did rape her--but he paid for the case to be dismissed

    we don't know do we?

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    it was never proven that kobe raped the girl---but it was never proven that he did not...

    maybe a rape never occurred and she is as bad as some people say

    maybe kobe really did rape her--but he paid for the case to be dismissed

    we don't know do we?
    Only 2 people will ever know. We all have our opinions. To say outright "Kobe is a rapist" is a statement of fact, not opinion. It's irresponsible at the least.

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    If you are tought u dont have to say it.
    Amen. Pau is skilled and a key piece of the Lakers team but when ChrisRichards or BR Hornet or the other morons say he is the MVP of the Lakers and Kobe couldnt win without him ...revist this thread...

    How many other Chapionship leaders have had THEIR OWN COACH and fanbase call them soft?

    Pau is great complement to Kobe and a great SECONDARY star ...

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