Manu to sign extension

[ElNono]

He doesn't want to just leave. he would prefer to stay with the Spurs.

He made clear in no uncertain terms that he would test the waters if he didn't like what the Spurs offered. I'm sure he would have stayed for a little less money, but not for half as much. It's basically his last NBA contract.

[baseline bum]

letting him walk for nothing is better for the future success of this team than signing him for 40 mil, that 40 mill will get us a couple extra wins next year, but in 2011/12 and 2012/13, it will destroy our ability rebuild, to sign players who are actually worth the money

I thought you said it was bad for next year.

who do the Lakers overpay?

Bynum, Artest, Morrison, Walton

who have any of those teams overpaid?

Rashard Lewis ring a bell? Anderson Varejao? Zydrunas Ilgauskas? Kenyon Martin? Eric Dampier?

and how many of them have championships?

Quit moving the goalposts.

Lakers open the wallet for premium talent, not for nostalgia
Cavs and Magic are trying to keep top young talent from leaving, so over-paying now for a few guys to keep their Stars happy will pay off for them in the long run.
the Mavs continually spend as much as possible, and still no les, even with a top all-time player in Dirk.
and the Nuggets have a better record than the Spurs, with a payroll 5 million less, right now, before Manu's contract even starts

More moving the goalposts. Might as well, since your idea to let Manu walk so the Spurs can spend it on no one is pretty stupid.

[vander]

Really? Can you tell me how much they're paying for the Walton/Vujacic/Fisher trio?

I guess you magic ball can also tell you Kobe will be worth the $30M they'll be paying him 3 years from now...

yeah those are huge, terrible, crippling contracts

and Kobe's contract will hurt them, that is kind of a legacy situation, all time great, career Laker, etc.

there's a difference between the 2nd best (maybe even best) player of all time, and just another good NBA player, you can bet the Lakers would never pay 40 million for an aging Manu

[CubanMustGo]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5064686

7:14 pm update

The San Antonio Spurs and guard Manu Ginobili have agreed to a three-year extension worth $38.9 million, a league source confirmed Wednesday.

The deal is the maximum the Spurs are allowed to offer Ginobili under the current collective bargaining agreement, based on Ginobili's current salary and age (32).

The contract will not be completed before Ginobili and the team return to San Antonio from their current road trip and the possibility remains the deal could fall apart. Whatever concerns the Spurs might have about Ginobili's injury issues over the last few seasons, though, have been allayed by his performance the last two months.

Ginobili said he has been physically fine since the start of the season, but that he had "a mental issue" to overcome about finishing around the rim.

Ginobili has been with San Antonio since 2002. He's averaging 16.6 points and 5.6 assists per game this season.

He could have become a free agent after the 2010 season ends for the Spurs, who are tied for sixth in the Western Conference standings entering Wednesday's games.

Ginobili's value to San Antonio is heightened by the fact that as a Spanish-speaking Argentine, he is immensely popular in San Antonio's Hispanic-rich market.

Ric Bucher is senior NBA writer for ESPN The Magazine.

[rascal]

He made clear in no uncertain terms that he would test the waters if he didn't like what the Spurs offered. I'm sure he would have stayed for a little less money, but not for half as much. It's basically his last NBA contract.

He made it clear he wanted to stay with the Spurs. No one said it would be for half as much.

[baseline bum]

I have not, and you have changed the terms to next year. (signing Manu probably futilely helps us a little next year, but we won't be a contender anyways, so what's the point? 40 million for a few extra regular season wins in 2010/11)

I guess the Spurs have no desire to remain compe ive after this year

How would signing Bonner for 3 years/30 million make the Spurs less compe ive?

Because he'd be playing most likely if signed.

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

I guess someone thinks that Manu's money should've been saved to re-sign Bonner for something like $50m/4 years. Now that's a smart deal.

[ElNono]

yeah those are huge, terrible, crippling contracts

They add up to more than what Manu would make on the tail end of this deal... enough said.

and Kobe's contract will hurt them, that is kind of a legacy situation, all time great, career Laker, etc.

And Ginobili is not a legacy, career Spur situation? He will most likely will be a HoF, and by the time it's all said and done he might actually end up with more les than Kobe. He'll definitely get his jersey retired by the Spurs.

there's a difference between the 2nd best (maybe even best) player of all time, and just another good NBA player, you can bet the Lakers would never pay 40 million for an aging Manu

Gino is an elite guard in this league, period. This is simply not arguable.
What we're paying is merely market value.

[ElNono]

He made it clear he wanted to stay with the Spurs. No one said it would be for half as much.

Some have. That's what MLE money is.

[rascal]

I always said that Parker and Manu will remain with the spurs as long as Pop is still with the team.

[Brazil]

I'm still unsure what the plan is with Tony. He seems determined to play for the national team at least 2 of every 4 years. This lead to the issues with him this year and Manu the last couple years. If Tony has suitors for the 2010 cap space players who miss out on Bosh, LeBron and Wade, Tony could be an option.

In your opinion this signing for this amount change something for TP situation ?

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Great to hear, although they are massively overpaying for a guy who is 32 and whose body is probably going to break down during the contract.

Still, glad he's being extended... it's not my money!

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Did someone really suggest signing Bonner for 10mil/yr?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Great to hear, although they are massively overpaying for a guy who is 32 and whose body is probably going to break down during the contract.

Still, glad he's being extended... it's not my money!

I have a feeling that Hill's emergence coupled with Manu's play has the front office thinking they can swing a trade for Parker or Jefferson (or both) this summer.

[lennyalderette]

i called it our friend told us that ginobili told him "lets just say i got kids coming", no but you gotta have 1000 posts to get heard on this board and again believe me parker is leaving and im glad the spurs chose a guy who cares about us.

[DAF86]

Dyess is worth what he's making? and what about RJ, Manu's better than RJ, how dare we offer him less than 15 mil per year.

or is the logic here that one mistake deserves another, and that in turn another, and...

By the time the Spurs signed Dice he was averaging 9pts and 9rbds, if for the FO that's MLE worthy then what Manu is doing is definitely worth a lot more.

[baseline bum]

and Kobe's contract will hurt them, that is kind of a legacy situation, all time great, career Laker, etc.

there's a difference between the 2nd best (maybe even best) player of all time, and just another good NBA player, you can bet the Lakers would never pay 40 million for an aging Manu

Holy crap, I missed that the first time around. Now it all makes sense why vander's posts are so ridiculous: he's a 12 year-old Kobe nuthugger.

[DAF86]

How would signing Bonner for 3 years/30 million make the Spurs less compe ive?

I hope this isn't a Vander's quote.

[DesignatedT]

Holy crap, I missed that the first time around. Now it all makes sense why vander's posts are so ridiculous: he's a 12 year-old Kobe nuthugger.

[ElNono]

Holy crap, I missed that the first time around. Now it all makes sense why vander's posts are so ridiculous: he's a 12 year-old Kobe nuthugger.

You didn't know he was a Lakerfan?

[jestersmash]

I love it when guys on a message board try to play "virtual GM" like they for sure know how to manage the team better than R.C. Buford and Pop.

I mean, what has RC Buford/Pop's management gotten us over this last decade? A measly 4 rings?

Probably could've been 6 or 7 if vander were at the helm. Maybe even 12 or 13. That's right you heard me, 13 championships in 10 years. Vander's just that good.

[baseline bum]

You didn't know he was a Lakerfan?

No, I just thought he was slow.

[lennyalderette]

I'm also surprised by the 13M/year value, but concidering he was WAY underpaid for his actual contract...

Good for him, good for the Spurs and...... good for us!

this is what people need to understand the guy was way underpaid, but i guess you can say he was paid about right for being injured so long.. however i feel like ginobili is actually the opposite of what you guys are saying i think he will be playing great basketball at 35 i almost swear on it, because his body yes has had some injuries but nothing ever broken or major if you think about it and hes learned to be a lot more careful with what he can and cant do! look at steve nash and hes been playing for ever without taking breaks, and hes playing that great pass/shoot/drive basketball that ginobili plays, and to me ginobili will be healthier than nash by 35. i dont see manu slowing down at all look at grant hill i mean that guy had serious injuries but has now learned what his body doesnt react well to and is playing solid manu has done the same this year

[vander]

I thought you said it was bad for next year.

nope, someone else trying to put words in my mouth

Bynum, Artest, Morrison, Walton

Bynum is a great young talent, Morrison was actually part of a salary dump. a dozen teams would have given Artest that contract, that's market rate, and Walton is a smart player who might be a little overpaid but not much, and he isn't getting worse as his contract gets bigger. those are all pretty much terrible examples, that team spends much more than the Spurs and still spends it all smarter

Rashard Lewis ring a bell? Anderson Varejao? Zydrunas Ilgauskas? Kenyon Martin? Eric Dampier?

really? really? all of those guys signed contracts going INTO their prime, not 5 years past it, not to mention what I already said about Cuban's spending, and keeping young stars, that you just ignored. "moving the goalposts", no it is you moving them, all over, trying to find any other overpaid player on a good team to justify Manu.

Might as well, since your idea to let Manu walk so the Spurs can spend it on no one is pretty stupid.

MLE, and it's a 3 year deal, you'd rather us continue to not have cap room while the team gets worse and older? there goes all of our 2011 cap room, guess we'll have no choice but to overpay Parker just like Manu, better than letting him walk for nothing, and then before you know it, it's 2013 and we're still clutching to (and paying for) the past, still in a slow decline, no longer even a playoff team, instead of rebuilding in 2010-2012 and being on the way back up.

you're pretty short-sighted, caring only about next year.

[DAF86]

you're pretty short-sighted, caring only about next year.

You're pretty delusional if you think the Spurs could have signed Manu for the MLE.