Would you trade George Hill for Aaron Brooks?

[Leetonidas]

Oh so now all Brooks is, is a undersized SG......but Hill is a "combo guard" the blatant homerism here is deafening. Stop listening to Butt cake.....Brooks is easily out assisting Hill. If anything Hill is a SG that y'all are trying to force to play point.

Uh I never said he was an undersized SG, I said he was an undersized SCORING GUARD. SG = Shooting Guard. And yeah Hill is a SG but he has shown NUMEROUS times this year and last that he is fully capable of leading a talented team as the point guard.

Defense >>>>>>>>> Dishing assists and shooting threes (which Hill can shoot just fine anyway).

Seriously, I can't believe you Rockettes fans are getting all ass hurt because we don't want Brooks. We already have a better version of him in Parker, minus the three point shot. And our team values a players' defense brah, it's not all about how well you can shoot the three or score, because the Spurs are fine in that department.

And remember that Brooks is doing this as the #1 option on his ty team while Hill easily #4 or even #5 depending on how well Jefferson/Blair/whoever is playing.

[spursbird]

We weren't supposed to do this year. we weren't even supposed to have a winning record this year and here we sit above .500 and only 8 games behind your ass, who was supposed to compete for a freaking le after the great "Richard Jefferson trade" You really want to talk about hype and letdowns.

Think about it, y'all couldn't really pull away from us in a year where y'all were supposed to be one of the best teams in the leauge and your team is getting old as dirt, Duncan is getting old......who do you really think is going to have the better year next year?

Yeah, and you made a great trade acquring a skinny guard who can't defend, often hurt, shoot at a low FG%, with a large contract.
p.s. His way of shooting is really awkward.

[Blackjack]

With a username like Tmac&Luther ... I'm going to have to trust his judgment on talent; that dude can scout.

[Spursfanfromafar]

We weren't supposed to do this year. we weren't even supposed to have a winning record this year and here we sit above .500 and only 8 games behind your ass, who was supposed to compete for a freaking le after the great "Richard Jefferson trade" You really want to talk about hype and letdowns.

Think about it, y'all couldn't really pull away from us in a year where y'all were supposed to be one of the best teams in the leauge and your team is getting old as dirt, Duncan is getting old......who do you really think is going to have the better year next year?

Dude. The Spurs won 4 championships in the last 12 years and how many times in those dozen years did they pay luxury tax? eh?

And the Spurs despite RJ's underperformance is going to the playoffs and are expected to create a lot of noise based on their Febraury-March performance. Heck, I have not found any contender ruling out the Spurs not winning the championship as yet.

And what about the Rockets, eh? The expectations were indeed low and their performance was mediocre. Whats there to crow about the Rockets this season eh? Your "Dork Elvis" got you the 10th spot with the addition of ...drum roll ... Trevor Ariza and David Anderson.

And Yao or not, the best you managed with your Franchise-1 from China and Franchise-2 (T-Mac) was second round (and don't even let me start the tale of Stevie "Franchise"). So stop crowing, dude.

The Spurs in the meantime have never missed the playoffs in more than a dozen years, have had the best record in PROFESSIONAL SPORTS and have contended for a championship for years now.

So yeah, if they are in line to win "only" 50-52 games, it translates to "disappointing" for Spurs Fans. Contrast that with the Rockets .

And yeah again, Brooks is good enough to lead you to 10th place only next season George Hill (if Manu comes back) will keep us in the championship hunt for next year and more.

[exstatic]

you are VERY wrong in believing that george hill is the better long range shooter. Aaron Brooks is the best 3 pt shooter on the team, and one of the best I have seen in a rockets uni. But its the range that makes him so good, he'll pull up for a 3 way behind the line and drain it like its nothing, almost every single game.

If it weren't from brook's shooting ability, he would be a mediocre guard. Its his shooting that has really been helping him this season, and he's shown just how good at that he is when we got martin and he could actually pass to someone who could make a shot and help him get open.

??? Ball don't lie. I didn't say Brooks was ty, just that Hill is better.

.398 > .388

[noob cake]

??? Ball don't lie. I didn't say Brooks was ty, just that Hill is better.

.398 > .388

I would have to disagree with you on that. Brooks is easily the best three point chucker in the league. He is currently leading the league in three pointer made. I give him props for taking multiple garbage three pointers every single game (and still making 38.8% of them).

[TDMVPDPOY]

wtf are rocketfans starting to become like those fans from ty teams with alot of talent but outside of the window they are crap if you try and slot them onto another team....

[exstatic]

I would have to disagree with you on that. Brooks is easily the best three point chucker in the league. He is currently leading the league in three pointer made. I give him props for taking multiple garbage three pointers every single game (and still making 38.8% of them).

.398 > .388

Fans of bad teams often think volume shooters are something special, but they aren't. Being a chucker doesn't make you a better shooter. It just makes you a chucker.

[kamikazi_player]

I'd trade Hill for Brooks in a heartbeat.

[senorglory]

What would we do with both Parker and Brooks? Not enough size to play them side by side.

[Harry Callahan]

Brooks is a smallish chucker who gets out of control. He's a nice player, but Hill is bigger and stronger with the ability to D up on bigger players with his long arms. He has done a nice job in Tony's absence. Sucks that the old man fisher did the only thing he could do to defend Hill. Hurt him.

[Tmac&Luther]

Again... At people who actually think Hill is better or will be better than Aaron Brooks in the long run. Do y'all actually think Hill would lead this depleated Rockets team to a winning record out west?

Hill is a good player, but he is no Aaron Brooks. Brooks has come into his own the season and he's STILL IMPROVING as each game goes on. His PG skills have improved by leaps and bounds over the last couple of months. "Butt Cake" cake even make a argument that Lowry is the better PG.

I wasn't trying to be rude when I made it seam so absurd, but it is...Y'all can keep Hill. It's just a shame Brooks got nicked up and had to check out for a huge stretch in a game that was well decided, he was putting on the full display tonight.

[Nathan Explosion]

If Brooks brought his standup routine with him, I'd think about it.

[Tmac&Luther]

If Brooks brought his standup routine with him, I'd think about it.

There isn't a G.M. in this league that would take Hill over Brooks right now or in the future...except the cheap ones that don't want to hand out a large contract. (The Suns franchise would probably take Hill) Yet 90% of Spurs fans would......something screams of "homerism" here.

[Nathan Explosion]

Again... At people who actually think Hill is better or will be better than Aaron Brooks in the long run. Do y'all actually think Hill would lead this depleated Rockets team to a winning record out west?

Hill is a good player, but he is no Aaron Brooks. Brooks has come into his own the season and he's STILL IMPROVING as each game goes on. His PG skills have improved by leaps and bounds over the last couple of months. "Butt Cake" cake even make a argument that Lowry is the better PG.

I wasn't trying to be rude when I made it seam so absurd, but it is...Y'all can keep Hill. It's just a shame Brooks got nicked up and had to check out for a huge stretch in a game that was well decided, he was putting on the full display tonight.

In Hill's defense, with him at the helm, the Spurs have beaten 4 division leaders in the past 2 weeks. Brooks' team is eliminated from the playoffs. The Rockets have some nice players with them. We all know what the posters here think of Scola. He's the second coming of Duncan if you read some of the more outrageous posts here.

Brooks can't defend bigger guards like Hill can. We already have a smallish guard (in size not height) in Parker. Having Brooks as his backup wouldn't really help the Spurs. Hill provides more versatility to the lineup.

[Nathan Explosion]

There isn't a G.M. in this league that would take Hill over Brooks right now or in the future...except the cheap ones that don't want to hand out a large contract. (The Suns franchise would probably take Hill) Yet 90% of Spurs fans would......something screams of "homerism" here.

Us homers are probably as blind as Stevie Wonder. "Can't Stevie have a peek? Just one peek? Just a 'Ugh, Ugh'?"

[DPG21920]

Brooks is better than Hill now, but Rocket fan overrates Brooks.

[Tmac&Luther]

In Hill's defense, with him at the helm, the Spurs have beaten 4 division leaders in the past 2 weeks. Brooks' team is eliminated from the playoffs. The Rockets have some nice players with them. We all know what the posters here think of Scola. He's the second coming of Duncan if you read some of the more outrageous posts here.

Brooks can't defend bigger guards like Hill can. We already have a smallish guard (in size not height) in Parker. Having Brooks as his backup wouldn't really help the Spurs. Hill provides more versatility to the lineup.

Are you really going to use "team success" here. Or try to pimp Scola now. This is a team that lost their #1 scorer, dealt their other "franchise player" during the offseason, traded their go to 4th quarter scorer mid season (who led the entire league in points scored in the 4th quarter), had to work in another guy who was going to be a big piece of the offense and took alot of shots...(aka, that's ALOT to deal with during one season, Brooks went from being a role player to being handed the keys of the franchise in ONE season, there aren't alot of players that can handle that...I'm speaking to you Trever "the bum" Ariza) And you're really going to give all the credit for a role player/fringe at best starter for being 8.5 games over another starter with all of the above to deal with.

Do you honestly think the Spurs wouldn't be where they are or even (which would probably be reality) with Arron Brooks. Hill plays with good big men, and one of the best bigs in the league, that makes the game easy for him. Brooks does what he does while facing a crap load of defensive attention.

[Tmac&Luther]

Brooks is better than Hill now, but Rocket fan overrates Brooks.

Umm how? Nobody said he was Deron Williams or Chris Paul level.....just better than Hill and will be better than Hill. I call that rating him exactly where he is.

A poll that has 90% of fans wanting to take Hill over Brooks is the definition of "overrating a player".

[Tmac&Luther]

And remember that Brooks is doing this as the #1 option on his ty team while Hill easily #4 or even #5 depending on how well Jefferson/Blair/whoever is playing.

Again, right now SA Spurs only 8.5 games ahead.....it's not like Houston sucked total ass. And how was Brooks being a #1 option a knock against him? Do you realize what a player has to deal with and the attention he gets as a #1 option. PLENTY OF PLAYERS can be a 4 or 5 (Again you Trever, but you weren't even that were you), only a few can be a #1 or even a #2 option....regardless on what caliber of team they play on.

[DPG21920]

Umm how? Nobody said he was Deron Williams or Chris Paul level.....just better than Hill and will be better than Hill. I call that rating him exactly where he is.

A poll that has 90% of fans wanting to take Hill over Brooks is the definition of "overrating a player".

Why

[OrEmuN]

Umm how? Nobody said he was Deron Williams or Chris Paul level.....just better than Hill and will be better than Hill. I call that rating him exactly where he is.

A poll that has 90% of fans wanting to take Hill over Brooks is the definition of "overrating a player".

Rubbish ... the poll just shows that Spurs fans prefer not trading Hill over Brooks and does not define anything else. Anything else (e.g overating Hill) is just inferrence.

We need Hill for the all-round game more than scoring. Rockets has its own defensive stopper in Battier and needs Brooks to score and as such, Brooks is a better fit in Houston.

By saying we do not want to trade Hill over Brooks says nothing abt which player is better, just that both fits better with the respective teams

[Tmac&Luther]

Why

Brooks has BETTER playmaking ability. He's the better athlete, has shown better PG skills, and is the MORE THAN BETTER ALL around offensive player.

Defensive skills at the PG position is OVERBLOWN. Would Hill be this great defensive player without the big man behind him. That's what makes a good defense.......a good big man. For christ's sakes our center is 6'6. Hill wouldn't be the defensive player y'all think he is with our shot blocking presence (what presence) either.

I'll ALWAYS take the better playmaker at that position and that is why Hill will never be better than Brooks. With Yao or a center like Yao (aka Duncan) all of a sudden Brooks gets better on defense.....go figure. Good defenses have a good big man.

[DPG21920]

Just as a basis for comparison:

Brooks per 36 minute numbers:

19.7 PTS, 43% FG, 39% 3PT, 82% FT, 2.7 REB, 5.4 AST, .9 STL, .2 BLK, 2.9 TO

Hill per 36 minute numbers:

15.2 PTS, 47% FG, 39% 3PT, 77% FT, 3.3 REB, 3.6 AST, 1.1 STL, .4 BLK, 1.6 TO

So Hill seems to be the more efficient player, better rebounder, certainly a better defender and takes care of the ball. He is not a great play maker, but decent. Brooks seems to be a more proficient scorer, but not more efficient.

[DPG21920]

You are overstating Brooks play making. He is better than Hill, but not all that great in that regard.