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Man, if you are so tired of the Parker hate, how long till you give up and quit reading threads like this one?
Moron says what? Do you plan on making a single decent contribution to SpurTalk, or to continue with your worthless posts?
Man, if you are so tired of the Parker hate, how long till you give up and quit reading threads like this one?
As long as there are idiots (and you are one of the precious few exceptions to the fact, because you're at least giving some thought to it) posting stupid drivel on the board, I'm going to rip them for it.
I've been here for over three years now. I'm not about to let the Spurs board be filled with buffoons spewing their nothing-tripe without at least sounding off on them for having zero knowledge of basketball. C'est la vie.
Thats what Im talking about, some get it some dont. He helped us get 3 rings because he wasnt the main factor in the system, now that he wants to be the main factor we as a team are not good for the last 3 years.
Pass first PG = Hill
Shoot first PG = Parker
see the difference people
i feel you. I actually feel responsible for taking the lid off, I think Timvp and Kori tried to avoid this very thing, and I feel like I forced them to open the door, and now its like flood gates. I feel kinda bad to tell you the truth. I actually just wanted to express my opinion (and I never advocated trading Parker), but now I feel like I should have kept my mouth shut.
Then again, you could also say that if these views weren't kept under wraps by Timvp/Kori for so long, they might not be blowing up right now.
Very well put.
Sorry about that, getting close to 200 just for you.
but then the people who point fingers at all of the flopping would NEVER get a break
I've only seen a few good arguments against TP..
I'm not against trading him if the right deal comes along, which is how I feel about any player on the roster other than Duncan..the best argument I've seen about trading TP have come from respected posters like Mel and Mogrovejo, it makes sense..most of the others that have suggested trading him are bringing up ridiculous trade proposals that don't make any sense for the other team involved, or involve the Spurs getting inferior players that wouldn't make a difference for this team..
The only good argument I've seen against TP from an impact standpoint is that his touches currently take away touches from Manu, which could hurt with the way Manu has played during his hot stretch..that's really the only good argument, everything else isn't backed up by anything at all..
I could take the TP haters more seriously if they actually backed up their points with facts and good analysis, but 99% of them don't..the 1% is generous btw..
I still say reign tony in, make him a SG, Pop needs to force ball movement and insist that any offense come within the flow of the game. And if tony is having a hot night, let him go.
Also, I think overuse of Tony detracts from his effort on the D end, especially late in games. Last year proved that overuse of Tony detracts from his everything late in games...which is why I think our gameplan needs to reduce those instances and take advantage of other guys.
Meh, don't get ahead of yourself. There have been Parker haters on this site for as long as... well, as long as we've had Manu on this team. It seemed to become more widespread shortly after I joined this site, maybe circa 2008 or slightly before.
ZOMG UR THE FIRST NOOB WHOS EVER SAID THAT! U WIN the PRIZE!
Yeah my ignorance to this fact led to me getting lumped in with TP haters and crushed sometime in 08 i think.
I was advocating for tony to get Mason more touches when he first arrived, because I saw him as the new captain jack (at least behind the arc). It didnt go over well.
George Hill is a pass first PG?..really?..
So why had Manu only 84 assists in the last 15 games without Parker.
He had an average of 5.6 assists per game.
This year Parker is at 5.7 ast/game, last year a healthy Parker was at 6.9 ast/game with a bad team. I think he was the 8th best passer in the league.
In fact Manu & Tony are using the ball the same way.
I think Manu is the best player of the two and he is one of my favorite player of all time, but saying that Manu is a phenomenal playmaker while Tony is a ballhog, is ridiculous... They have basically the same stats.
Yeah dont you see the ball movement compared to TP?
You still are stupid like Brazil said. The hasn't been healthy all year. Jesus give him a break, he's a great player just like Manu and Tim I'd hate to see any of them go. I'D LOVE TO HEAR POP, MANU, TIM or ANYONE ELSE ON THE TEAM HEAR SOME OF YA'LL IN RE ED IDEAS AND THEORIES. THERE IS A REASON YA'LL ARE SITTING ON A COMPUTER TALKING AND THEY ARE PAID MILLIONS BECAUSE SOME OF YA'LL DON'T KNOW WHAT THE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. LIKE I SAID ANY SPURS PLAYER OR COACH WOULD TELL YOU THAT YOU ARE ING CRAZY OR STUPID IF YOU WANT TO TRADE TONY PARKER. Good lord enough with this .
And didnt you watch TP during last night's game? He was getting into the paint at will and dishing it off to open teammates like Bonner for the open 3. People who want to trade TP are ing nuts because most likely the Spurs wouldnt end up with someone of equal value anyway...
I really agree with that, good take. He does get out of control on offense sometimes but when he's got it going, nobody can stop him but a little more called plays and such would really help. I just can't see the Spurs getting equal value in a trade. If the right trade were there then I'd be okay but some of the people suggest is rediculous. Anyway good point.
No. He's a Mo Williams type of PG (although I like Hill way more than Williams). You need to have a good playmaking wing to pair with him, otherwise, if he's your quarterback on the court your team is very probably going to be horrible.
OMG we reached a new lowest level.
That's always the part that puzzles me..
The people here that hate Parker always criticize him for not being a good enough passer, but then they praise Hill for the way he plays offense..Hill makes Tony look like John Stockton as a passer..
I understand liking Hill's superior shooting and occasional defense, but it's always funny when they bring up his passing and ball movement, as if he's a good passer(he might not even be above average IMO)..
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