Page 5 of 7 FirstFirst 1234567 LastLast
Results 101 to 125 of 161
  1. #101
    Big in Japan GSH's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Post Count
    14,093
    I'm saying that I don't believe there was intent to injure him.

    I also believe the risk of injury on that play is being severly overstated in this forum.

    Simple question - Why do you think the NFL outlawed the horse collar?


    It really doesn't make a rat's ass what you think the intent was. If you grab a guy from behind while he's up in the air, and drag him down by the throat, it's a dirty ing play. And the fact that Manu got up like a warrior doesn't have anything to do with the discussion. It's like shooting into a crowd and accidentally not hitting anyone - then insisting it wasn't dangerous, since no one was killed. ing simian logic. (Don't bother looking it up... simian means "monkey".)

  2. #102
    Believe. Sobe_Kucks's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Post Count
    274
    Right, that's who it was.

    Carlisle is toast. He doesn't have a clue how to get his guys to stop our guys from getting in the paint.

    What a difference a year makes.
    +1 Pop has his critics (myself included) but he is schooling Carlisle this series. Just in minutes ditrubution, Carlisle is doing a poor job and just may have coached himself out of a job.

  3. #103
    Master of Information Dr. Gonzo's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Post Count
    8,678
    RJ's hard chop to Dirk's face could have broken his nose, yet the SBC Center cheered when he went to the floor. I'm not saying the fouls were equal, but that is the hypocrisy I'm talking about.
    Yes everybody there cheered, I know I did, because that wasn't a cheap shot. It can be argued that he was going after the ball. THAT is a good hard foul. What Najera did was a cheap move.

  4. #104
    Veteran scott's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Post Count
    20,555
    Simple question - Why do you think the NFL outlawed the horse collar?


    It really doesn't make a rat's ass what you think the intent was. If you grab a guy from behind while he's up in the air, and drag him down by the throat, it's a dirty ing play. And the fact that Manu got up like a warrior doesn't have anything to do with the discussion. It's like shooting into a crowd and accidentally not hitting anyone - then insisting it wasn't dangerous, since no one was killed. ing simian logic. (Don't bother looking it up... simian means "monkey".)
    Yeah, because the foul was the same as shooting a gun into the crowd. Great analogy.

    Great avatar by the way.

  5. #105
    Big in Japan GSH's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Post Count
    14,093
    Yeah, because the foul was the same as shooting a gun into the crowd. Great analogy.

    Great avatar by the way.

    It's a simple question, heel. Why not answer?

    Why do you think the NFL outlawed the horse collar?

  6. #106
    Veteran scott's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Post Count
    20,555
    It's a simple question, heel. Why not answer?

    Why do you think the NFL outlawed the horse collar?
    Already asked and answered in this exact thread.

    If we are talking about football, then football is a violent game where people get seriously injured from perfect form tackles. Horse tackle injuries resulted in two high-profile injuries, neither career-threatening, that caused the rule to be established. If you've ever played football as a defender and you know the object is to tackle the ball carrier and you tackle someone the best way you can. Horse collars tackles (in football) are marginally more dangerous than grabbing someones jersey from behind and pulling them down (perfectly legal).
    I'll also add that this exact play happens in almost every soccer match. Sometimes it gets no call, sometimes a yellow, sometimes a red. No careers have been threatened. "But it's like a shooting a gun!"

  7. #107
    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    57,943
    Scott doesn't believe in god. Pay him no mind.

  8. #108
    Believe.
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Post Count
    1,191
    look scott, you're just wrong. It wasn't a grab the guy hard foul or hard slap on the arms, it was a grab and forcefully pull the guy down by his neck to the ground by a player who is KNOWN for committing flagrant fouls.

    You can't justify that kind of violence in a game; there's no place for it....it's why flagrant level 2 even exists! It was a flagrant 2 by the books....and that's that.

    I know you are a little miffed at the way Spurs fans are handling this, and I think this is because sub-conscientiously some think that if this were someone like Kobe Braynt, Najera would be suspended 3 games easy....yet this will be another sweep under the rugs "hard-nosed" (no pun intended ) foul.

  9. #109
    Veteran scott's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Post Count
    20,555
    Look all I'm saying is that if Dana White was the NBA commish, I'd start watching before the playoffs.

  10. #110
    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    57,943
    I bet Manu could beat GSP.

  11. #111
    Veteran scott's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Post Count
    20,555
    GSP maybe. But Anderson Silva would probably make a mockery out of the fight, then end Manu's career.

  12. #112
    Big in Japan GSH's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Post Count
    14,093
    I'll also add that this exact play happens in almost every soccer match. Sometimes it gets no call, sometimes a yellow, sometimes a red. No careers have been threatened. "But it's like a shooting a gun!"
    You're an ignorant , and you never played football beyond peewee, if that. Careers ARE threatened, and some things players can't just shrug off. Even if they are super-tough, like you.

    "The horse-collar tackle rose to infamy during the 2004 NFL season, in which it was implicated for six major injuries, four of which were caused by Williams (including two in one game). The injuries that season included broken legs for Philadelphia Eagles wide receiver Terrell Owens and quarterback Donovan McNabb, Baltimore Ravens running back Musa Smith, and Tennessee ans wide out Tyrone Calico.

    The horse-collar is particularly dangerous due to the awkward position of the player getting tackled... Potential injuries include sprains or tears to ligaments in the knees and ankles (including the ACL and MCL), and fractures of the tibia and fibula."


    Dumbass.

  13. #113
    Veteran scott's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Post Count
    20,555
    Okay you're right. It *is* like shooting a gun into a crowd. Good win, internet superstar.

  14. #114
    Veteran Thompson's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Post Count
    2,481
    So do people really think Najera will be suspended for game 5? Not rhetorical, I want to know if it's likely (though it really wouldn't hurt the Mavs much anyway).

  15. #115
    Big in Japan GSH's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Post Count
    14,093
    Okay you're right. It *is* like shooting a gun into a crowd. Good win, internet superstar.
    And you're still an ignorant . When you do something stupidly dangerous, it doesn't matter what your intent was. And you can't justify it by pointing out that nobody happened to get hurt. (That's what makes the gun comment an "analogy". If I had said that it was like pulling a guy down from behind by the throat, it would have been a "redundancy". Isn't English fun?)


    The directive is dubbed the "Roy Williams Rule" in reference to the defender whose use of the technique seriously injured Calico, Owens and Musa Smith, who suffered a fractured right tibia and missed the Ravens' final six games.

    Calico had arthroscopic surgery and returned for one game but aggravated the injury and had subsequent surgery.

    Calico doubts Williams intentionally tried to hurt him.



    See what I did there? That was another analogy. It wasn't Ginobili and Najera, but it's similar. And it doesn't matter what the intent was... it's a dangerous thing to do.

  16. #116
    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    57,943
    he just told you that you won and its not enough for you. Jesus.

  17. #117
    Big in Japan GSH's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Post Count
    14,093
    he just told you that you won and its not enough for you. Jesus.
    Sometimes, if you beat them down enough, they get too depressed to breed. Less chance of a whole new generation of ignorant s.

  18. #118
    Veteran scott's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Post Count
    20,555
    GSH, you get bonus Internet Superstar Points for using curse words in subsequent posts. I sure wouldn't want to run into you in a dark alley!

  19. #119
    Big in Japan GSH's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Post Count
    14,093
    GSH, you get bonus Internet Superstar Points for using curse words in subsequent posts. I sure wouldn't want to run into you in a dark alley!
    I do bird calls, too.

  20. #120
    Welcome to the present.
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Post Count
    5,827
    http://www.nba.com/spurs/multimedia/100425_duncan.html

    timmy talks about najera and the flagrant foul.

  21. #121
    You can't fix stupid..... E-RockWill's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Post Count
    508
    I do bird calls, too.

  22. #122
    There is no I in team spurastic's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Post Count
    848
    Was it Cuban who offered to pay someone to go in and break Bowen's leg at one of the series a couple of years ago? If so, hummmmmmm?

  23. #123
    hold mah dick! duhoh's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Post Count
    1,870
    rofl, doesn't matter anyways.

    our guys still owned.

  24. #124
    Veteran gameFACE's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Post Count
    1,822
    Najera is the only Mexican not welcome in SA.

  25. #125
    Veteran BG_Spurs_Fan's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Post Count
    5,931
    And the fact that Manu got up like a warrior doesn't have anything to do with the discussion.
    This.

    I dread to think what would have happened if it had been someone like Paul Pierce, in Manu's place. Wheelchairs to the rescue!

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •