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    i'm surprised so many people are wondering what happened to Tim in this game. It's simple. He turned 34. he's aging, and every birthday takes him closer to the end of his career, and he knows it. it's depressing. i know because my birthday is today, and even though i'm acting like it's no big deal, i'm kind of depressed at the moment. i want to be getting younger, not older. tim does too. he was just bummed out today.
    Happy Birthday. My Grandfather's is today as well and mine will be following shortly thereafter.

    Hopefully Tim gets up for the closeout, it's been a while since he's been in this situation but I'd bet on him showing up.

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    If we can close it out in 5 that would be ideal. Hopefully our bench continues their great play on the road.

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    Yeah, he went glass early tonight, rimmed out, but he just didn't look decisive with his moves -- this banker looked like more of him settling than mixing up his game.

    During the first three games, he actually had a good first step. He was beating the bigs to the middle, getting to the front of the cup, but he just didn't have it tonight. I mean, he was even backing Damp down a good 10-feet to shoot his jump hook, which is something he's had trouble with since losing all the weight -- some could be attributed to playoff Timmy, but most had to do with the fresh legs he had from the rest.

    He looked so good to start the series and was making moves as well as he had in years. I'm really hoping this schedule doesn't kick his ass now that he's played the minutes he has and won't get more than a day break, but I guess we'll see.

    The guy better be in a hot tub and chillin' until game time Tuesday.
    He was even driving baseline on them and pulling up while fading baseline, a shot he hasn't used much for years. He's had at least 2 3pt plays doing that this series. It's not one of my favourite Timmy moves as, just like his righty push shot on the right block going middle, it is susceptible to getting blocked, but it has been effective this series.

    I think we'll see Playoff Warrior Duncan again next game. He was just tired, and he'll bounce back.

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    Hill jumper is a thing of beauty right now.

    Did you see the rotation on those balls? You're right, it was a thing of beauty. (Especially on a night when the other guys were throwing knuckleballs.) I actually backed up during commercials to watch some of those shots again. He is really stroking it right now.

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    Well we all sure as know that TD is his harshest critic..so you know even though they did win this game, he didnt play well and he's gonna come out wanting to bounce back big time in Game 5. If you would've told me that the Big 3 would only play mediocre to poor, I would've said they lost this game. But Hill, RJ, and Dice stepped up BIG tonight. Dice continues to make Dirk earn each and every one of his points that he gets, he's rebounding, hustling, and knocking down the mid-range J we need him to knock down. RJ brought some very much needed D and hustle-type plays on Defense that led to some points on the offensive end, big props to him. And Hill, this kid totally had his breakout playoff game tonight- shredding the Mavs from every which way possible. From knocking down the corner 3 to hitting the mid-range J to driving and finishing at the rim, this guy had it ALL tonight. BIG win by the Spurs, now all we need is ONE more.

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    Yeah, and that's what I was getting at when I was talking about his thin margin for error. He shoots those same shots (into the defender, with the wrong hand) one game and looks inept and clueless but in the next looks like a world-beater because he's a little quicker and more decisive -- if he has his legs and wits about him it gives him just enough of a window to get those shots off without much of a problem.

    Hopefully the day off will be enough to re-energize him because if it's not ... it's only going to get worse from here -- I'm hoping for the best and believing he, and they, will find a way to get it done.

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    We'll find out if it was fatigue or simply a bad game for Tim Duncan on Tuesday. if a day of rest isn't enough for TD anymore, that's obviously a big concern.

    I'm also a little concerned with Manu being fatigued. He was moving a lot better earlier in the series than in the last two games.

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    Maybe Pop put Bogans in to give RJ some rest? I'm cool with it if the man he defends is Jason Kidd.

    To the Spurs, Mavs' most threatening weapon is transition offense. If Spurs execute the offense well, they are generally fine defensively.

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    There is a good side of the bad performance of our big three: Our role players are filled with the full confidence at the moment and that's great for the rest of the play-offs. If we could beat the Western conference 2nd team without any significant supplement of TP, TD and Manu; we can advance till the end. It's great news.

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    We just need to escape Dallas and Game 5 with a win so we can get our vitals some real downtime.

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    Damn, Blair only got 12 minutes?

    Those were some killer minutes.
    enjoyed the part where he took down kidd, fck him...how about the part he tango with dirk and he was going to beasts him if the refs didnt stop it.....did blair just came out on enforcer school under the schooling of their grandmaster kwillis/massoman?

    we need more of this no tolerant bs on this team....


    ps. pop going cia when gino went down from the najeras flagrant foul..

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    a second left, he threw it the length of the court away from the basket to a streaking Manu. if Manu taps it in the air ahead of Terry's slapping it, game was over then.
    I was watching TNT and Collins stated that TD should have called a TO and so as to advance the ball to half court. I think that Pop acted like he wanted one too but not really certain. Happened so damn fast and will all the adrenaline flowing and all... I think that a TO would have been the correct call and if there was more time left there still remained the possibility of making a shot however mprobable. Any BB fan has seen those last second mircale shots and to have witnessed one in this game would have pissed me off more than I can think. Especially since it would have been the result of TD not making the proper call. IMHO For being such a great player there are times when I just shake my head and wonder what he was thinking when he does things like that.


    Manu got freaking fouled on that play in the corner, happened literally right in front of me and freaking I think Butler and Kidd were on the trap, slapped the out of his arms.
    Manu got mugged for sure. Should he have called a TO rather than try to get a foul called? Moot point but worth considering.

    Considering these two situations I wonder if Pop is going to address this issue in respect to future ones. Though this may not seem that important to some (we did win the game right?) it is the attention to detail that has made this team/core players champions. I think that both of those players should have called TOs. But it is hard to argue with two future HOFs.

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    Great summary, as always.

    Amazing that the Spurs were victorious despite such a poor outing from Duncan, along with struggling efforts from both TP and Manu. Hill literally carried the Spurs to this win, with a lot of help from Dice, RJ, and Blair. If Blair continues to amass good production, I hope Pop increases his PT, because Bonner brings nothing, but an opportunity for Dice to rest.

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    that man

    I had problems finding a stream. Most of the 1st and begining of 2nd Q I was sitting and swearing. damn I was pissed. Then I was able to watch only in small window, so basicly I was sometimes closer to Nowitzky then McDyess [head in the screen]

    Then I got even more pissed looking spurs fold to 15pt deficit.
    Damn you Bonner for not resting TD!

    Timmy said: I'm not gonna put an effort F U O' It's my birthday. GHrizzly then said chill man I've got a lil gift fo ya. he took the Bonners minutes and gave it to TD. dirk wanted to mess with Heavy D?
    Then Hill made a Bowen impression from the corner, was making gutsy plays so Timmy relaxed on the bench. He apperciated the gifts i assume.

    To me he had a night off. He looked bad in 1st Q and I was worried like timvp that it's so early in the postseason and Timmy does not have his legs.
    But I think he must get used to playing more as he was pl;aying less minutes in the regular.
    An encouraging part was when he came back in the 4th. he looked fresher almost jumping like a dear to set the picks. Thanks god he did not force the action and others stepped up

    dallas fans are probably pissed that Jim Carey was not playing Matrix in the final stanza. well sometimes coaches goes by they gameplans more then indyvidual play.

    I hate Barea, Terry and that dip najera

    Can you belive I was shouting to him. GET THE F OUT NOW cause I'm gonna KNOCK YOU OUT.
    This guy was there disscussing with refs? About what? GTFO!

    Props to RJ. He made some tough plays and was doing more then fine against Kidd and Nowitzky.


    And Pop in every game he made adjustments with players not playing well.
    Not to slim the rotations he must to try the guys to see if they gonna contribute this particular bight.
    And his reaction to the Najera knockdown? He got off the bench but immediatly looked backk to the bench and kept the bench players on the bench.


    Overly this win was HUGE as HUGE it could be.


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    Timmy is fine.

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    -DeJuan Blair was a human ball of energy in his 12 minutes of action. He had seven points and seven rebounds to go along with a block, assist and steal. Finally looking in rhythm, Blair utilized his massive bulk to bully the Mavs down low. He helped changed the tone of the game from a passive affair to a physical brawl. Blair's teammates and the crowd seemed to feed off of his energy and his play allowed Duncan some extra rest. Considering Duncan's woes, that was huge.
    Considering Blair wasn't likely to get SIGNIFICANT minutes in this series anyway, would you classify this as his "spectacular" performance you'd HOPED to see from him?

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    my thought exactly - he looks like SJAX in this picture

    and people are seriously worried about duncan slumping right now? have you not seen his previous games this series?

    he'll be fine - settle down.

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    I'm not worried in the least with the Big 3 performance. Been there, done that, next game will be very different.

    However what this game showed was young prospects like Hill or Blair and veterans like Dice or RJ stepping up when the time is ripe. And the posers being exposed... Dice in particular looked confused and almost dispirited all year long, but he's being huge right now.

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    I think this talk of TD being tired is overblown. The Mavericks really set the tone in the first half with very physical interior D, and the refs were letting both teams play all game, so I think Dampier and Heywood's physicality just got Duncan out of his rhythm early.

    Here's what Rosen says:

    San Antonio’s top gun, Tim Duncan, was smothered by the ferocious defense of Erick Dampier and Brandon Haywood. TD never got a clean look at the basket and wound up shooting 1-for-9, with his only bucket coming on a tip-in at 4:11 of the fourth quarter. Duncan yanked down 11 rebounds, but he was never a factor on offense and only slightly more effective on defense. Still, Duncan did show his mettle by setting sturdy screens all game long. He also dove headlong to the floor to rescue a loose ball in the third quarter.
    But you gotta love this gem from Rosen most of all:

    Indeed, the Mavs faux belligerence was exposed when Eduardo Najera collared Ginobili in mid-drive and ruthlessly yanked him to the floor. Neither Ginobili nor the Spurs were intimidated by Najera’s cheap — and dangerous — bullying.

    This was a character win for the resourceful Spurs, as well as a characterless loss for the lightweight Mavs.

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    I don't know, i was there and Pop was on Duncan's ass.

    Usually when Duncan looks tired Pop usually doesn't get on him.

    If Pop thought he was tired I don't know if he would've ripped his ass as much as he did...
    Duncan came out with more than 3 minutes to go in the 3rd. By the time he went back in the 4th, because of the time it takes to play, he had rested 25 minutes according to the announcers. They thought he might have cooled off too much.

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    Did you see the rotation on those balls? You're right, it was a thing of beauty. (Especially on a night when the other guys were throwing knuckleballs.) I actually backed up during commercials to watch some of those shots again. He is really stroking it right now.
    He should be shooting well. He was a high-scoring shooter in UIPUI. He's had to change his game to become a PG but the inate skills are still there.

    Now he's gonna have the confidence to use them. Look out NBA

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    He should be shooting well. He was a high-scoring shooter in UIPUI. He's had to change his game to become a PG but the inate skills are still there.

    Now he's gonna have the confidence to use them. Look out NBA
    Exactly

    When he pulled out that off screen jumper from 16-17ft, I was thinking georgee is back in school. He was hitting everything.

    Crucial player for this series.

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    The question then is what he was doing doubling off Terry at all? Surely the one guy you should stay at home on against the Mavs, especially when they needed 3s, is Terry. That is about all I can say to criticize the Spurs D tonight though, because it was incredible all night. 2005 level. Just totally

    I will also say that, before those lapses, TP had played tough, in your face D, especially on Kidd, and helped to keep him out of the game yet again.
    These two Terry 3s were quite suspect tbh but I agree the rest of the game was vintage TP on Defense. I really liked how he followed Jason during the whole game and how he run around the Mavs screens.

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    Duncan looked tired both physically and mentally, I guess. But the good thing is his defense was pretty decent, especially in the fourth quarter.
    Of course his outlet pass at the end of the game was a risky one. But I don't think Tim knew Terry would be catching up with Manu that quick - if Terry doesn't, it is a good play.

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    well we had TO left so no need to pass it in a hurry

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