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    It is going to be interesting to see if Pop continues to stick with Hill as a starter over TP in this series.

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    So playing Bonner 15 minutes and McDyess 17 means nothing I guess? Pop hasn't made adjustments to Phoenix's bench. That's how he's getting outcoached.
    What adjustments do you make? Play the top guys 48 minutes?
    How about constantly leaving shooters open? You think it would continue to happen if Pop made instructions on which players could leave their guys and which couldn't? I'll ask you this hypothetical:

    Which would you rather have? Duncan guarding Nash (iso)/Parker guarding Amare(iso) or leaving Frye/Richardson/Dudley open for 3?
    Nash and Amare are being aggressive, in fact anyone inside the 3pt arc is attacking the basket they're not settling for nothing, that's a huge reason the shooters are being left wide open. These Suns are just playing out of this world basketball right now.

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    So playing Bonner 15 minutes and McDyess 17 means nothing I guess? Pop hasn't made adjustments to Phoenix's bench. That's how he's getting outcoached.


    How about constantly leaving shooters open? You think it would continue to happen if Pop made instructions on which players could leave their guys and which couldn't? I'll ask you this hypothetical:

    Which would you rather have? Duncan guarding Nash (iso)/Parker guarding Amare(iso) or leaving Frye/Richardson/Dudley open for 3?
    I firmly believe that if pop could play dice he would (look at last series). Duncan was getting exploited by the suns small ball lineup and you want to put mcdyess in as well? the suns had one of dudley/g.hill playing PF the whole 4th quarter.

    Pop has stressed many times over about leaving there shooters open but at the same time you have to gaurd there pick and roll (the best in the league at it) so its pretty much picking your poison... that's why they have made it this far....

    There bench play has been far superior to ours and thats the difference in games 1 and 2. simply that. pop is playing the out of george and rj and duncan and manu and tony... just like everyone wants. but at some point they have to rest and our bench is awful.

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    What adjustments do you make? Play the top guys 48 minutes?
    Sweet exaggeration. Dice should be playing 30 minutes a game.

    Nash and Amare are being aggressive, in fact anyone inside the 3pt arc is attacking the basket they're not settling for nothing, that's a huge reason the shooters are being left wide open. These Suns are just playing out of this world basketball right now.
    They shot 35% in the first half. Remember that? That's out of this world bad.

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    They shot 35% in the first half. Remember that? That's out of this world bad.
    nullified by not being able to secure the rebound.

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    If you can play Bonner, then you can play Dice. At least he will give you a jumper on offense. Bonner is completely worthless.
    +1. Dice's long jumper is money, Bonner's open 3 is garbage.

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    I firmly believe that if pop could play dice he would (look at last series). Duncan was getting exploited by the suns small ball lineup and you want to put mcdyess in as well? the suns had one of dudley/g.hill playing PF the whole 4th quarter.
    So what? Bonner got 15 MINUTES. He should get less than 5. And almost none of that was in the 4th.

    Pop has stressed many times over about leaving there shooters open but at the same time you have to gaurd there pick and roll (the best in the league at it) so its pretty much picking your poison... that's why they have made it this far....
    Half the time it isn't on the PnR it's on a mismatch.

    There bench play has been far superior to ours and thats the difference in games 1 and 2. simply that. pop is playing the out of george and rj and duncan and manu and tony... just like everyone wants. but at some point they have to rest and our bench is awful.
    I know they have to rest but pop's rotations on their rest is not good right now. He needs to know who to play with who.

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    What adjustments do you make? Play the top guys 48 minutes?

    No.

    Just play Bonner 2 minutes, and Dice, 30, instead of 15 and 22.

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    Dice is a smarter and tougher player than Bonner. Both have serious matchup issues but when opposing teams see Bonner they attack immediately and it pays off for them with and ones and momentum swinging plays. Matt is a good third string player and stationary 3 point player. We need toughness and rebounding and that 15 ft jumper is better than the brick laying.

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    When the Spurs are able to run the Suns off the line Phoenix is mostly settling for pullups, looking for a way to get it back out for another 3-pointer, or taking contested shots at the rim....I'll take my chances and stay at home on the 3's.

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    Totally agree with the le!

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    bonner and blair should never be on the court together. If one is out on the floor it should always be with tim or antonio. When antonio goes to the bench bring in bonner or blair. When tim goes to the bench bring back antonio and sub in bonner or blair for who hasn't played yet.

    Never, never, never have those 2 on the court together they are too much of a liability to be on the floor at the same time.
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    So what? Bonner got 15 MINUTES. He should get less than 5. And almost none of that was in the 4th.

    Half the time it isn't on the PnR it's on a mismatch.


    I know they have to rest but pop's rotations on their rest is not good right now. He needs to know who to play with who.
    Fact is we dont have the weapons coming off the bench like they do. Pop is already playing our weapons like crazy just like everyone wants. Ok fine.. I totally agree that dice should play over bonner. You're telling me that this and pops "mismanaging" of our big 3's minutes is costing us the series.He is coaching the series fine. its all about the bench play right now. simple as that. sounds like you're just one of the many quick ones to criticize him after any loss we have.

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    manu ginobili played poorly, didnt attack the rim and just hit 2 3s.What was that lineup with Blair playing as our Center?Where is Dyss??18 offensive rebounds by a team that doesnt have anyone who averages double digits in rebounding?this is pathetic.Stop small ball it wont work against them and guard the damn pick and roll!!
    Its ok though we can win our 2 at home if we rebound.
    I agree
    Manu playing the role of jump shooter and assist man is not gonna cut it in this series. Do the Suns even have shot blockers in there?

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    Bonner and Blair should never be on the court together. If one is out on the floor it should always be with Tim or Antonio. When Antonio goes to the bench bring in Bonner or Blair. When Tim goes to the bench bring back Antonio and sub in Bonner or Blair for who hasn't played yet.

    Never, never, never have those 2 on the court together they are too much of a liability to be on the floor at the same time.
    definitely agree with that. Cant stand it when those 2 guys our on the floor together. even though it doesnt happen very often.

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    Sweet exaggeration. Dice should be playing 30 minutes a game.


    They shot 35% in the first half. Remember that? That's out of this world bad.
    I think I mentioned already that Dice should play a lot more.
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    Yes they shot poorly in the 1st half, but what kept them in the game were the 50/50 hustle plays. Even with Duncan back in the game they were still getting those crucial rebounds that kept them afloat.

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    Fact is we dont have the weapons coming off the bench like they do. Pop is already playing our weapons like crazy just like everyone wants. Ok fine.. I totally agree that dice should play over bonner. You're telling me that this and pops "mismanaging" of our big 3's minutes is costing us the series.He is coaching the series fine. its all about the bench play right now. simple as that. sounds like you're just one of the many quick ones to criticize him after any loss we have.
    Dude I never said that. I just said he was getting outcoached. Obviously burgers like bonner, bogans, coupled with Manu being off is costing the series. Oh and the defense is mediocre. Pop is just a component of it.

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    Bonner's inability to stay at home on Frye was just mind numbing. I have grown to expect that he will miss his shots. The defense however on his counterpart was beyond comprehension. He has played himself out of SA and all I can say is good writtens.

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    No.

    Just play Bonner 2 minutes, and Dice, 30, instead of 15 and 22.
    There's also an issue with playing Dice though, Gentry has the personnel to minimize his effectiveness by putting smaller guys on the court who shoot the ball well.

    At the end of the day though if you're going to lose do it with your best guys and not Bonner/Blair, that I do agree with.

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    Just noticed the final stat line has Dice at 22 minutes. My bad but it's still ridiculous to play bonner 15.

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    Ill probably catch heat for saying this but Finley's 3 ball would sure be nice to have coming off that bench right now. Our other guys are just pathetic.

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    Please, leave this out. Refs had nothing to do with it.
    You can wallow in self pity all you want but its a fact that the refs had an impact on the game. Their impact was ultimately superficial, inflating what would have been a win, and the Spurs failed to overcome the bad calls, but the game was poorly officiated. The Spurs have been the beneficiaries of officiating as well -- including some games against the Mavs in Round 1.

    I think most people agree that teams must figure out a way to overcome poor officiating, but I don't think it should be ignored simply because you want to dog on the team. The refs sucked. Its okay to say that -- it doesn't mean the Spurs didn't suck too... especially the red head.

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    Look guys bottom line is this. Spurs had two great chances to steal one in Phoenix. They didn't now we need to hold serve at home. This is a long series so we got time. Bad calls or not i agree this is something teams need to overcome to reach the next level. We've done that four times already so i know just as well as all you guys that we can do this again. It's taking a little more time for the spurs to settle into this series than we'd like but i see a silver and black attack coming. We will turn this series around!

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    You can wallow in self pity all you want but its a fact that the refs had an impact on the game. Their impact was ultimately superficial, inflating what would have been a win, and the Spurs failed to overcome the bad calls, but the game was poorly officiated. The Spurs have been the beneficiaries of officiating as well -- including some games against the Mavs in Round 1.

    I think most people agree that teams must figure out a way to overcome poor officiating, but I don't think it should be ignored simply because you want to dog on the team. The refs sucked. Its okay to say that -- it doesn't mean the Spurs didn't suck too... especially the red head.
    7th seeds usually don't get the benefit of the doubt on the road. If the Spurs want more calls go their way, maybe they should have earned it with home court advantage.

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