KBP, stop trying to mislead people. Who is going to be in each bracket isnt' defined yet.
Anyway, Spain will tank in the group state in order to avoid playing US before the final. Scariolo is their coach.
Losing Pau Gasol isn't a big deal? AHahahah. Vazquez is a very good player, but not on Pau's level and a very different one - you can't rely on Vazquez to create offense.Vazquez will replace him so not that big of a deal really.
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France without Parker, Noah and Pietrus isn't a first tier team. Are people crazy? They aren't even that good when they're in full force.
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Nobody is saying Brazil will win a medal, just that they're good enough cause an upset or two in the knock-out stage. They beat Argentina in the AMerica's tournament last season. Granted Argentina will have Delfino+Nocioni this time around (and should easily be a superior team), but Brazil will also field a stronger roster. Again, they have so many quality, athletic bigs, that can play defense that if their guards are on they're going to be a difficult team to beat.
Erazem Lorbek won't play for Slovenia. Without him they just aren't that good, especially considering Smodiz is still out of form.
Greece has their two best guards back in Diamantidis and Papaloukas and in terms of individual talent seem to be just below US and Spain, but it remains to be seen if they can create the necessary chemistry. I want to see their final roster first.
Lithuania without Siskauskas isn't a top team. Especially with Jasikevicius, who is more than done, still playing and wanting to be the man.
Serbia is freaking good. They're young, hungry, talented and have experience as individuals and as a team at a very high level in spite of their age. Plus, the luxury of an incredibly deep roster. Why do people keep overlooking them? To me they're contenders for a medal.
Turkey has some talent - Ilyasova, Gonlum, Hedo, Asik, even Kanter - but they lack quality guards.
This is probable roster for Germany
PG Heiko Schaffartzik/Demond Greene/Steffen Hamann
SG Konrad Wysocki/Luca Staiger
SF Elias Harris/Robin Benzing
PF Dirk Nowitzki/Tim Olbrecht
C Chris Kaman/Jan Jagla/Tibor Pleiss
Much better I think than roster that won bronze at 2002 World Championship and roster that won silver at 2005 EuroBasket.
No way France is in the same tier as spain/greece..On the other hand,US isn't too
Spain and US will not play in the final. Anyone says otherwise has no clue about how European national teams work. Spain will tank? Hey smart guy EVERY single European national team is thinking about their opponent because they are trained that way. Only coach I know did not do that was Giannakis and that is why he was fired because he cost Greece an Olympic medal.
Noah and Pietrus never said they were not playing this summer. Only Parker and Turiaf said that so far.
Kanter for Turkey? Really? they will bring an 18 year old player? I doubt it. They have plenty of good centers and power forwards why do they need an 18 year old in their team?
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This is probable team for Slovenia
PG Goran Dragic/Jaka Lakovic/Sani Becirovic
SG Beno Udrih/Samo Udrih
SF Boki Nachbar/Sasha Vujacic
PF Matjaz Smodis/Goran Jagodnik/Jurica Golemac
C Primoz Brezec/Uros Slokar
I put Sasha in team because he keeps saying he wants to play badly for Slovenia. But even though every time he gets cut from the team. If he gets cut again then there is probably Domen Lorbek or Klobuchar instead of him.
Is Smodis and Becirovic were healthy this can be really good team. But they are both ruined with injuries and are just not what they used to be. Slovenia is very dangerous team though I think.
Pretty much I agree this is true. If US sends all these young players like they are saying Durant, Granger, Evans and all these young players like this then they cannot be in same level as Spain and Greece.No way France is in the same tier as spain/greece..On the other hand,US isn't too
France roster is strong but they do not have a smart team. They are below this level also.
Alright let's assume US finishes second and Spain first.
Eight Finals:
Second Seed of Group B (USA) would play the third seed of Group A in game 64.
First Seed of Group D (Spain) would play the fourth seed of Group C in matchup 67.
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Quarter Finals:
The winner of matchup 64 (USA) would play the Winner of matchup 63 in game 70.
The winner of matchup 67 (Spain) would play the Winner of matchup 68 in game 72.
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Semi Finals:
The winner of game 70 (USA) would play the winner of game 69 in game 76
The winner of game 72 (Spain) would play the winner of game 71 in game 77
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Finals:
The winner of game 76 (USA) would play the winner of game 77 (Spain) in game 80.
So if just one of them finishes second and the other first they won't meet until the finals. If both finish first they'll meet in the finals.
It's a low chance they'll meet in the finals but it is possible and therefore you can't rule it out that they won't play each other in the finals.
turkey can be pretty nasty with Hedo, Illyasova and Kanter
You're clueless. Say that to the French posters who followed the last Eurobasket, for example.
Anyway, I hope you can understand how that paragraph is contradictory. Yes, Spain will tank if they need that to avoid playing US before the Finals. It's that simple.
They will...
I'm not sure they're calling him; but there's a chance. Why? Because he's good.
Probable team for Russia
PG Sergei Bykov/Anton Ponkrashov/Alexey Schved
SG Sergei Monya/Vitaly Fridzon
SF Viktor Khyrapa/Kelly McCarty
PF Andrei Kirilenko/Andrei Vorontsevich
C Sasha Kaun/Timofey Mozgov/Artem Zabelin
Travis Hansen, Victor Keyru, JR Holden and Aleksei Zozulin are also possible I think to be in their team.
Russia should have very strong team. Very athletic and very good at defense. They can be a scary team.
You are a joke. You keep saying I can't say they will not play the finals then you say they will tank IF they need to avoid US. How the do they know they need to avoid US? US will not have better team than Spain when LeBron, Bosh, Howard, Anthony, Wade all these players and maybe even Kobe are not playing.
You really are funny. US will be worried about even beating teams like Slovenia and you act like Spain is planning on tanking to avoid them. Very funny stuff when there will be other teams probably better than the US that they might want to avoid instead.
spain is gonna avoid US stop trying to troll us kill bill
Kanter is 18. 18 year old player has never done anything at that level. Rubio at 18 was horrible at EuroBasket and Spain barely made it past group stage and only then with luck against Great Britain. Rubio was the cause of that.
Kanter won't do anything and should not even be in their team. Hedo was probably the worst player at EuroBasket last summer.
Much more important than Hedo and Kanter (why would he even be on their team at 18 this is crazy) is players like Ilyasova and Asik.
So, you agree that the Finals may in fact be a US vs. Spain game?
Good. You're a slow learner but I see that eventually you get it.
Why? Wade, LeBron, Howard, Bosh, Anthony are not playing supposedly and Kobe maybe also might not play?
Spain is afraid of US roster with Danny Granger, Tyreke Evans, Kevin Durant, Amare Stoudemire, Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Brook Lopez, Al Jefferson, Derrick Rose, OJ Mayo, Rudy Gay, Gerald Wallace and such players like this?
2004 and 2006 US teams were much better than that. Even 2002 US team was probably better than that.
So, you agree that the Finals may in fact be a US vs. Spain game?
Good. You're a slow learner but I see that eventually you get it.
I guess you do not realize that links to game Spain lost to Serbia, went to overtime against injury riddle Slovenia and barely beat Great Britain cannot be post huh? Spain almost by miracle was not eliminate in group stage of Eurobasket and it was because Rubio played like crap. Once he was benched and Navarro was made to play point guard Spain barely won in last 2 minutes against the British and they barely escape out of group stage.
Of course since you never saw any EuroBasket games you do not know this. Because you are a fake.
Spain and US will NOT play the finals. Anyone that has ever watch this tournament before will know this 100% sure automatic from look at the bracket. Of course you have never see the tournament before.
And you can't rule out the possibilty that they will meet in the finals when it is technically possible.
You doubt about Greece's chemistry?Seriously?Greek teams have always been about team work,we never had great individual talents..We are like the Pistons of international compe ions..
I do agree on your points about Lithuania/Serbia/Turkey though..
Chances of USA Spain final is low. Mogrovejo is an OBVIOUS TROLL telling people it is guaranteed 100% that will be the final.
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Probably this will be team of Serbia
PG Milos Teodosic/Aleksandar Rasic/Stefan Marković
SG Igor Rakocevic/Dusan Kecman
SF Milenko Tepic/Nemanja Bjelica
PF Darko Milicic/Novicka Velickovic
C Nenad Krstic/Kosta Perovic/Miroslav Raduljica
Other players maybe they can take is Ivan Paunic, Milan Macvan, Zoran Erceg, Bojan Popovich, Uros Tripkovic, Nemanja Aleksandrov.
He does not know anything about European basketball or national teams. He is just a pretender. He obviously does not know actually anything about it. He's never even seen 90% of the Greek players even play a game.
Just ignore him. The Americans here all think he is for real and this legit European and international basketball expert. When clearly he does not know anything about it. It is so funny reading all the comments from Americans here that believe him when he is so full of it and wrong about every time he posts on European basketball.
Don't bother to read his posts or take him serious. No one that knows anything European basketball would take him serious in the smallest way base on the things he says. He is just a troll and the Americans just believe him because they do not know any better.
There is no European fans that come here to tell the Americans the truth and call him on his BS. Only other fake European basketball experts like Bruno. Of course for anyone that really knows like you will see his comments and be like WTF? But the Americans here are all fooled by him.
He has just admitted that the brackets aren't defined yet, as I've sustained from the beggining.
I agree about the team work and I disagree about the individual talents. Anyway, by chemistry I didn't mean lack of a team iden y+team work; I'm just not sure Greece won't have a flawed team in the sense of lacking certain important skill-set, namely shooting from their guards and athletic defenders, guys who can guard face-up 4, in the frontcourt. It depends on their roster, that's why I said I'd like to see their final roster first.
What?
Shooting from the guards? Vasileiadis, Spanoulis, Diamantidis are all guards and are outstanding shooters. They will all be in the team. Charalampidis might also be in the team and is also a guard that is a great shooter.
Athletic defenders? What the ? Printezis, Pelekanos, Spanoulis, Zisis, Perperoglou, Vasilopoulos, Bramos, Fotsis, Papaloukas, Vasileiadis. What do you mean "athletic defenders"? if there is one thing Greece does not lack is number of options that can guard their position against good athletes.
Guys who can guard face up 4? What in the ? Kaimakoglou and Printezis can easily do this, especially Printezis. Vasilopoulos, Pelekanos and Diamantidis can also do it. Even Perperoglou can do it.
From these comments you make it is 100% FACT you have never seen Greek players play and you don't know what the you are talking about.
Obviously you don't even know who players like Vasileiadis and Pelekanos even are from your stupid comments. Greece like any team has weaknesses and not one of the things you listed is what their weaknesses are.
I'm not even bothering to read your posts anymore. You are just a storyteller and are just here to clown the Americans.
I dont know why some of you regard Turkey as a good team, they suck really, they only have 2 better players, of which both are average. You could say they have home advantage, but against teams like usa, greece, france, spain, home advantage would not help anything significantly more. Also, it's not about the 2 better players either, you can have 2 great players, but still suck as a team.
This is probably the Australia roster
PG Patrick Mills/CJ Bruton
SG Brad Newley/Glen Saville
SF Joe Ingles/David Barlow
PF Matt Nielsen/Mark Worthington/Shawn Redhage
C Aleks Maric/David Andersen/Aaron Baynes
Also possible is Nathan Jawai, Matthew Dellavedova, Andrew Ogilvy, Adam Gibson, Damian Martin
They have many good players to choose from. Very underrated. They have many good players.
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