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lol Why didn't she suggest you choose literature? that should be the most useful for you IMHO.
It can be done. I have a house, a wife, a step daughter (12), a daughter (2), and a full-time job (also at a university). Just finished by BSB/A in November. As far as money goes, financial aid and tuition reimbursement. You have to figure out if that job you are in line for if you get your masters, how much extra will it pay you over the repayment period of your FA loans. I mean, if you are getting an extra $900 a month and have to pay $200 a month in loan payments, you did well. I understand plans don't always work out and maybe you don't get that position but that is where you have to factor in your appe e for risk, and figure out how much you will be able to afford in loan payments in a few years. You (may) also have tuition reimbursement, especially if you get your (Slit your wrists) MBA since it is directly related to your job function. This should give you enough of a step up that you can pay for your own lib arts degree (since almost no business will pay for it).
lol Why didn't she suggest you choose literature? that should be the most useful for you IMHO.
sounds like you're about the same age as your step daughter, or are you really this re ed? No wonder you hate america so hard and support terrorism so much, you shameless expatriate.
Rogue is funny.
That's a pretty ridiculous thing to say.
I am going to hate myself for quoting such a bad show but . . .
"He is an anti-den e."
I'm in no way saying it can't be done.
I'm saying it's not as often done. Currently my husband is going back to school, and I'll be taking the accounting classes by fall (thank God for community college with online courses). We don't need both of us back in school full time.
There is no position I'm currently up for or in line for - that's more of an observation about the climate of where I work and looking down the road at where this career path can lead; for the top jobs, they are preferring people with grad degrees.
I have absolutely zero interest in business. It would be sheer torture to try and get an MBA for me. Not to mention all the pre-reqs I'd require. Nah, if I decide to get a masters I'll stick to what interests me. At most I might opt for the MPA. But given how unmotivated I am to even study something that interests me right now, I don't see it happening for something uninteresting.
And no - no tuition reimbursement here. Or tuition breaks. Just 3 hours of work release time and a staff scholarship if I take classes here. And what's funny is that an MBA sounds like it would be related to my job function - but wouldn't really be. The only person in my office who has a business degree is the college/division administrator. . . the rest of us are all liberal arts majors.
That's not accurate at all.
My wife's experience as pre-med advisor over the past decade suggest it is, admittedly a sampling of only two universities; but students START pre-med, and either switch to pre-dental during studies; or apply for dental school when med schools won't have them; students who START pre-dental (of which there are very few), typically switch majors. Again, I am not arguing, this is personal experience (and kind of a standing joke in her department).
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There are twice as many accredited medical schools (not including osteopathic programs) than dental schools in this country. Just statistically speaking, any student has a better chance to get into med school. I think the majority of pre med students who change majors do so to go into other fields, not necessarily because of the difficulty and not necessarily to dentistry, though some probably do.
I indicated (or intended to indicate through experience) many if not most dentists come from the ranks of the "Pre-Med" college base; not that all of the pre-med college base that can't cut it become dentists; there aren't after all, THAT many dentists; which is why I suggested to the OP that he/she go ahead and change majors NOW.
Oh I'm sure that is very accurate, as do most of the nurses and pharmacists and physical therapists. But although you didn't imply that most of those that couldn't "cut it" in medical school became dentists, you did imply that most who became dentists couldn't cut it in medical school. And that is not correct.
From my experience Dental School is harder to get into than Medical School. I had friends that were deciding whether to go to Dental School and they were wavering because it was so difficult to get into compared to Med School.
As someone who is about to start an Art History MA program and who is genuinely passionate about the arts in general, as well as being equally passionate about having a diverse educational background and using college to explore things that truly interest you, it almost pains me to advise against an art minor... but...
I would say you should think very carefully about pursuing an art minor when your ultimate goal is to be a dentist. Not because the two things can't go together or because it would be an impossible academic program, but it will take you a while. Though perhaps not as demanding in terms of tests and memorization, studio classes are INCREDIBLY time consuming. Doing my studio minor, I spent far more of my own time in labs, studios, and dark rooms working on projects than my friends who are chem/bio/etc. majors. When the classes don't fulfill any other requirements, the time they demand is felt even more. In order to give all your classes enough of your attention/time, I would anticipate a studio minor delaying your graduation by possibly two years. , even as an art history major, a program that shares many of the requirements of a studio minor, I graduated this month one class shy of that minor because I didn't want to be working on it any longer. As I got further along in my studies and my upper division major classes got more and more demanding, the time spent working on various studio projects just got to be too much and I let it go. Last fall, before I'd decided to abandon the minor and I was pushing myself to take three studio classes, I was pretty regularly forced to skip other lectures and classes just so that I'd be able to get into the jewelry or painting studio during open hours and finish a project in time for a critique.
Ultimately, career aspirations and do what makes you happiest, but be very aware that the sciences and art majors/minors are probably the most demanding in terms of time spent out of class just because of coordinating lab and studio time. Do it if you think it will be rewarding in some way, personally if not financially, but realize you're looking at a five or probably six year degree if you do.
You're teacher is right, majors and minors in like art won't get you anywhere in life. The several doctors/vets/dentists I know who run their own practice tell me that not minoring in business was a huge mistake that made it so they had to hire people to help them run their practice.
This. Think with your brain, not your heart. If everyone did what made them happy, half of us would be pro athletes. I've accepted the fact that once I'm out of college I'll be in a solitary office crunching numbers for the next 30-40 years, but that's just how work is, and it'll be a well paying job that'll give me a great life outside of work.
Yeah, going to work and painting all day would be great, but not being able to pay the electricity bill would suck a lot more than having to crunch numbers.
That's just depressing.
What's depressing about it?
The complexity of running a private practice would be too much for someone without a business background. I can't see where someone could stay sane doing both jobs full time, concurrently. The prac ioners I know don't care to be spread so thin in both areas. I do know personally one dentist and one family medicine doctor who put their spouses thru the business degree and now are extremely successful and happy.
Actually, many do when the classes get hard and they finally realize that their grades are not going to get them into medical school. Just like, many people start as accounting majors but switch to finance or general business when the accounting courses get hard.I think the majority of pre med students who change majors do so to go into other fields, not necessarily because of the difficulty...
I agree with this whole heartedly. The ONE art class I took in college (it was printmaking) was incredibly fun and I enjoyed it.It was a release and all that jazz. I would love to go to King William and take some printmaking classes becauseI had so much fun in it... but dear GOD, I spent more time in the studio for that one semester than I did for the semester of BIO 143 (Systems) and BIO 148 (A&P 1) combined.
If the OP ends up going to a Liberal arts school you'll probably have to take 3-6 hours of art...so take those classes and enjoy the out of it. College is about exploring, so explore option. If you feel drawn to Biology now start with Biology, but maybe by your senior year you'll be a Communications major or finance major. Who knows. College is a weird time.
or maybe you realize that accounting sucks and switch to information systems
Generally... everything.
Specifically... that we as a culture have put so much emphasis on career and earning that someone as young as you (I'm assuming standard college age?) would have already accepted a future of 30-40 years working a miserable job to pay the bills rather than pursuing something more interesting and fulfilling that may not be as secure. It's an at ude I see frequently within my younger fellow students.
And it's an at ude I see far more frequently now than I did when I was that age, when an undeclared major was common and it was pretty much expected that the first few years of college were about experimenting and figuring out what you wanted to do, which suggests to me that there has been a solid cultural shift over the last ten or so years. A change for the worse, I think, and therefore kind of depressing. It's pretty much the an hesis of my at ude toward education and is completely opposite of everything I think is so fun and amazing about going to college.
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