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    At any rate, these ships are Turkish.
    The Turkish government show little enthusiasm for the anti-TERRORIST activities on the boats they had apparently checked.

    That's a totally different game with respect to Siria and Egypt.

    We''ll see what the US reactions will be.

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    Yes, after a warning, then it's OK to board the boats and even sink them if they choose to do so. And they wouldn't need to justify absolutely anything.
    I don't get it. You're basing all this off an imaginary boundary? Who cares if they have to justify their actions as it pertains to our discussion? Were the activists violent? Is there any evidence as of now that the commandos were violent prior to being attacked?

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    Boarding the safest way possible. How else should they have boarded? Or do you think they should've just let the boats pass without inspecting?
    Boarding in international waters is considered an attack. There's no two ways to look at it.

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    You keep saying this. Please show me where that happened. They repelled down and were immediately attacked.
    They found 4 Israeli weapons. The guys rappelling down were commandos. Do you think they were unarmed commandos? Not what I read.

    I don't know why they did in in international waters. I'm sure there's a reason. Who knows what it is.
    Yeah, it will be interesting to hear why they did it like that. We will hear about it because they will have to respond for doing that.

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    I don't get it. You're basing all this off an imaginary boundary? Who cares if they have to justify their actions as it pertains to our discussion? Were the activists violent? Is there any evidence as of now that the commandos were violent prior to being attacked?
    There's nothing imaginary about territorial waters and their boundaries, and the laws applied within those bounds.

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    Boarding in international waters is considered an attack. There's no two ways to look at it.
    Can you find the relevant sections of International Law? This guy is claiming it was legal. I honestly don't know.

    http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=177047

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    They found 4 Israeli weapons. The guys rappelling down were commandos. Do you think they were unarmed commandos? Not what I read.
    There's a disconnect between us. Were the weapons fired before the commandos were attacked?

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    And the argument is slowly getting to the 1 mile "mistake".

    Absolutely brilliant.

    There have been about 3 millions people that entered my country ILLEGALLY over the last 20 years.
    Most of them by boat.

    They were never shot.

    I never thought we should have sank all those boats.

    One mile or 2 miles or wherever they were.

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    "There are two possibilities; the first is that Israel may intercept the flotilla to detain the organizers and sympathizers - which is an act of piracy under the international law, or the flotilla reaches its destination.

    "If the Israeli government chooses to block the course of the aid convoy it will face a legal action at the Israeli high court or international courts," Prof. Petch said, adding that this possibility is unlikely to happen on the grounds that the flotilla posed no military threat to the Jewish state.

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    Can you find the relevant sections of International Law? This guy is claiming it was legal. I honestly don't know.

    http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=177047
    Here

    Under Article 110, Right of visit.

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    There's a disconnect between us. Were the weapons fired before the commandos were attacked?
    No. Which is exactly my point. Israel simply had no grounds to board the ships in the first place.

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    Well, if they're going to call a bunch of unarmed protesters inside a ship 'piracy', then we're really in it for a good laugh.

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    So what you're arguing is they did have the right to board if they had let the ship enter Israeli waters?

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    Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu called the incident "murder committed by a state" and said Israel had "lost all legitimacy".

    There was a particularly strong response from Turkey, where many of the activists on the ships are from.

    Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan accused Israel of state terrorism and violation of international law.

    In Istanbul, thousands of protesters took part in an angry demonstration against Israel.

    Turkey was Israel's closest Muslim ally but relations have deteriorated in recent years.

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    This thread should be renamed "Shastafarian looking foolish whilst defending Israel killing innocent people"

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    So what you're arguing is they did have the right to board if they had let the ship enter Israeli waters?
    Correct. Under Isareli waters, Israeli law applies. As such, they could have basically done whatever they wanted, and would not have had to respond to anybody.

    Like you said, it will be interesting to hear the rationale for attacking when they did.

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    Turkey basically organized this thing. No surprises they're pulling the cards they're pulling now.

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    Piracy?

    Act of piracy!

    Where were the Jolly Rogers?

    Mankell, the new coming of Long John Silver!!!

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    This thread should be renamed "Shastafarian looking foolish whilst defending Israel killing innocent people"
    Wouldn't be as good a le as "The ***OFFICIAL*** $250 hand job thread"

    lol paying $250 for a handjob

    lol pokemon

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    This thread should be renamed "Shastafarian looking foolish whilst defending Israel killing innocent people"
    He's got to do what he is paid for.
    Today the bar is very very high.
    Don't blame the guy for that.

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    Correct. Under Isareli waters, Israeli law applies. As such, they could have basically done whatever they wanted, and would not have had to respond to anybody.

    Like you said, it will be interesting to hear the rationale for attacking when they did.
    They're claiming they ships would bring harm on their nation. I read through the preamble and there's really nothing about that kind of thing. It's all based on piracy and the slave trade.

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    Turkey basically organized this thing. No surprises they're pulling the cards they're pulling now.
    And why was that.

    Aside from the US. Turkey was Israel' best friend in the region.

    Always been.

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    He's got to do what he is paid for.
    Today the bar is very very high.
    Don't blame the guy for that.
    What I'm paid for? Lemme guess, you live in one of the Muslim countries surrounding Israel? You're just like a caricature of all these idiot young arabs who protest cuz it's the cool thing to do.

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    They're claiming they ships would bring harm on their nation. I read through the preamble and there's really nothing about that kind of thing. It's all based on piracy and the slave trade.
    Those are the current, up to date, laws of the high seas (AKA international waters). Which is exactly why I don't understand why Israel didn't cover their asses by waiting until they were out of international waters.

    I guess we'll hear why sooner or later.

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    This thread isn't about Pokemon or hand jobs, it's about Israel killing innocent people.

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