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The way this guy puts it, the Israelis played right into their hands.
Pretty stupid of Israel.
Why the commando raid outside of Israeli waters, gtown?
The way this guy puts it, the Israelis played right into their hands.
Pretty stupid of Israel.
Did you just look at the website you got that link off of you dumbass mother er?
LOL.
That is an EXTREMELY pro Israel site, just look at the rest of the articles / tabs.
You stupid sheep, go ahead and believe what they want you to believe, I mean its not like theres a reason we are THE ONLY nation that backs their stupid bull .
Next time, give me A PROPER link, not a biased article from an Pro Israeli website.
The guy that runs the site, David Horowitz, is a jewish zionist. THE DUDE IS A HARD RIGHT ING RADICAL.
Do some ing research for gods ing sake you dumbass.
I'm tired of this forum being littered with uneducated s posting biased articles. Don't post an article of an extremist zionist's website's view on the matter.
you know what, I'll go ahead and post an article from al jahzeeraa or whatever! We'll see whose telling the truth!
Interesting. Thanks for posting a different view.
I guess we're to believe now that chanting against Israel is some kind of indictment into being a terrorist.
Or that we're to believe that civilians carrying clubs are the aggressors, while commandos carrying loaded handguns are the victims...
Here's another article from the Spanish press agency, EFE.
Talks about the backlash on the premier by the local press.
Israeli press strikes against Netanyahu
The premier was heavily criticized by the country's media after the raid to the humanitarian flotilla
Jerusalem (EFE) - Benjamín Netanyahu, the Israeli premier, is today at the center of a unusual and virulent critique from the Israeli press, who has even gone as far as to ask for the dismissal of the Defense minister, Ehud Barak, as a result of the tragic consequences of the assault to the humanitarian flotilla.
"Where was his head?", "Fist of power", "Lawlessness as a method of action", "Complete stupidity", "Fool's leadership", "The price of a deficient policy", "High Seas Fiasco", are some of the les of a mul ude of opinion pieces and editorials that graced Israel's top newspapers.
It's the first time that Netanyahu, who arrived to power in March 2009 after consolidating a right wing coalition, faces waves of criticism of this magnitude in the public opinion of his country, after suffering a milder reaction in March after the worst diplomatic crisis with the US in decades.
"Almost everything we do in the last few years suffers from some kind of deficiency, lack of intelligence to incur in negligence", writes Sima Kadmon in an article published by the Yediot Aharonot newspaper, the one with more prints in the country.
His colleague, Amnon Abramovich, remarks that "every time he's in contact with something related to the Army and security, the premier has bad luck or is a victim of some curse". "But there's a point where bad luck becomes a methodology. At some point the critical mass of so many cases of bad luck turn into a basic trait of the person", he adds.
The journalist Eitan Haber, former chief of staff of murdered premier Itzjak Rabin, comments that the problem the humanitarian flotilla represented to Israel "could have been solved in a peaceful way", but Israel again let itself get carried away with the thought that "the solution is in the force".
Ben Dror Yamini, from the Maariv newspaper, writes in his article "Fool's leadership" that while it's true that leaders make mistakes, "you have to differentiate between plainly making mistakes and making mistakes when the result is foreseeable". "If this is the Israeli leadership these days, then I don't think any israeli can sleep at ease at night thinking about the biggest treat we face".
Meanwhile, the writer David Grossman of the Haaretz newspaper adds that "no explanation can justify or wash away the crime that has been committed, nor there are excuses for the stupid way in which the government and the army have acted".
A big part of the responsibility assigned by the writers is steered toward the Defense minister Ehud Barak, who is being asked to resign by another influential columnist, Sver Ploztker, from the Yediot Aharonot. "It doesn't matter how the decision was made to fall into the trap, in Hama's provocation, and it doesn't matter what other alternatives were available. The only thing that matters is that Barak has failed and he needs to resign", he writes.
In that same tune, Nahum Barnea, another pillar of the local press, reminds everyone that the minister likes to profess in every direction that "the results are the only measure of efficiency" and that "if this is the result, the assault on the flotilla opens up a lot of questions".
Translated from here
Last edited by ElNono; 06-01-2010 at 08:53 AM.
You cannot discredit horowitz because his political views. He was raised as a liberal communist by commie parents.
Actually I find it pretty easy for Israel to attack a boat full of people chanting death to the Jews.
lol hating Israel so much you resort to rag head propaganda as the truth
lol becoming a bandwagon Suns fan
lol terrorist sympathizer
http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Government...1-May-2010.htm
1. A maritime blockade is in effect off the coast of Gaza. Such blockade has been imposed, as Israel is currently in a state of armed conflict with the Hamas regime that controls Gaza, which has repeatedly bombed civilian targets in Israel with weapons that have been smuggled into Gaza via the sea.
2. Maritime blockades are a legitimate and recognized measure under international law that may be implemented as part of an armed conflict at sea.
3. A blockade may be imposed at sea, including in international waters, so long as it does not bar access to the ports and coasts of neutral states.
4. The naval manuals of several western countries, including the US and England recognize the maritime blockade as an effective naval measure and set forth the various criteria that make a blockade valid, including the requirement of give due notice of the existence of the blockade.
5. In this vein, it should be noted that Israel publicized the existence of the blockade and the precise coordinates of such by means of the accepted international professional maritime channels. Israel also provided appropriate notification to the affected governments and to the organizers of the Gaza protest flotilla. Moreover, in real time, the ships participating in the protest flotilla were warned repeatedly that a maritime blockade is in effect.
6. Here, it should be noted that under customary law, knowledge of the blockade may be presumed once a blockade has been declared and appropriate notification has been granted, as above.
7. Under international maritime law, when a maritime blockade is in effect, no boats can enter the blockaded area. That includes both civilian and enemy vessels.
8. A state may take action to enforce a blockade. Any vessel that violates or attempts to violate a maritime blockade may be captured or even attacked under international law. The US Commander's Handbook on the Law of Naval Operations sets forth that a vessel is considered to be in attempt to breach a blockade from the time the vessel leaves its port with the intention of evading the blockade.
9. Here we should note that the protesters indicated their clear intention to violate the blockade by means of written and oral statements. Moreover, the route of these vessels indicated their clear intention to violate the blockade in violation of international law.
10. Given the protesters explicit intention to violate the naval blockade, Israel exercised its right under international law to enforce the blockade. It should be noted that prior to undertaking enforcement measures, explicit warnings were relayed directly to the captains of the vessels, expressing Israel's intent to exercise its right to enforce the blockade.
11. Israel had attempted to take control of the vessels participating in the flotilla by peaceful means and in an orderly fashion in order to enforce the blockade. Given the large number of vessels participating in the flotilla, an operational decision was made to undertake measures to enforce the blockade a certain distance from the area of the blockade.
12. Israeli personnel attempting to enforce the blockade were met with violence by the protesters and acted in self defense to fend off such attacks.
I'm fully aware of where the article comes from. Discredit the facts within it please. I felt this discussion could use a little perspective from the other side.
Ok, so there's the official story.
So if this is the case, why do you think that papers in Israel are calling for Netanyahu's resignation? If it was completely within their rights why do you think he's facing so much criticism?
It's amazing that some Americans in this forum are defending this more than the press of Israel.
So not only does he respond to everyone who opposes his views with names, he says the board is full of idiots who won't post unbiased articles. Yet, all he does is call people names instead of...wait for it...post unbiased articles. Job well ing done sook.
Peace activists
How about the people of Israel?
Oh yea, wheres your credibility they said that?
And even if they did say blah blah blah, how do democratic principles defend that?
It was a ship with a white you stupid idiot.
I get that you're probably jewish, but get your head out of your ass and stop making ignorant statements. If your going to say bigoted things like that and not contribute anything, then shut up.
And the same people you are attacking have the same legitimacy in killing you by your logic since you chant death to them.
Drop the stupid right wing kill all bull that islamic extremists and neocons live by. There was a peaceful solution to the problem, and it wasn't exercised.
I didn't feel like bolding and underling this entire thing so we'll just set it aside for later.I get that you're probably jewish, but get your head out of your ass and stop making ignorant statements. If your going to say bigoted things like that and not contribute anything, than shut up.
wtf?!?!?! haha that fake jihaad jihad bull in the end cracks me up
You probably did it yourself.
Where's the YouTube asking to board and inspect the ships in international waters?
Good job ..great point!
What is it?
Shastafarian with another useless post.
I'm just quoting all your ad-hominem attacks and they compromise the majority of your posts. You saying "another useless post" is just the gravy on top of the hypocrisy mound of mashed potatoes.
You deserve a medal for this great work you have done. I hope you find it here.
So not only does he respond to everyone who opposes his views with names, he says the board is full of idiots who won't post unbiased articles. Yet, all he does is call people names instead of...wait for it...post unbiased articles. Job well ing done sook.
Next time someone calls you a name don't menstruate straight onto your panties, shove a tampon up in there to soak things up.
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