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    o Clay Travis
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    In the conference expansion race, the University of Texas is the hot chick at the bar whose dad is a multimillionaire. Everyone wants her. Texas A&M is her less attractive younger sister who you would think was really hot if she wasn't the sister of the hot chick, a solid eight who is invisible standing next to a spectacular 10. Meanwhile, Baylor and Texas Tech are the ugly, cross-eyed step-sisters, they'd have no pull if it weren't for their proximity to the attractive sisters. Presently it appears that the Pac-10 is so in love with Texas that they're willing to take all four schools to get into the rich Texas television market. But let's not kid anyone: without Texas no one is coming after Baylor and Texas Tech and asking them to join a new conference.

    At all.

    So far, most speculation has focused on the four Texas schools as a package deal. And lost amid all the posturing associated with whether Baylor or Colorado will get the final offer to join the Big 12 has been this question: What if Southeastern Conference commissioner Mike Slive pulled a fast one and managed to recruit away Texas A&M from the three other Texas schools leaving for the Pac-16 (or whatever name you like best)?

    Think that's far-fetched?

    I don't.
    Here's why: Mike Slive is smart.

    While he refused to address what schools, if any, he'd had expansion conversations with, it's no secret that the SEC has long sought to enter the lucrative Texas market in the past. But Slive would be aware that the last time the SEC tried to expand into Texas, the state legislature raised issues with the move. He would know that adding Texas and Texas A&M by themselves, as every conference would prefer, wasn't likely to happen due to political pressure.
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    He'd know the price for those two schools would be much steeper.

    When I asked Slive whether the Pac-10's move to woo the six Big 12 schools surprised him, he said it did not.

    So you have to assume that's he's seen some version of this scenario playing out.

    Now let's channel the Oscar winning film A Beautiful Mind and return to our analogy about the girls at the bar. In the movie, you'll recall that the the genius scientist, John Nash, uses game theory to create an optimal pick-up situation for he and his friends. Let's put Slive in the John Nash role now at the bar. If you know you can't get Texas, the perfect 10, alone, and you know you can't get Texas and her sister, Texas A&M, the solid 8, alone, those options are out the window. What's more, you definitely wouldn't want Texas Tech and Baylor, the cross-eyed step-sisters of Texas football, but because you know your offer to Texas will be rejected without those two schools, could you make a creative move and approach Texas A&M, the attractive younger sister of the knockout, and make her yours all by herself?

    Maybe.

    Let's examine why this could be the perfect game theory move in the event the SEC wants to expand into Texas.

    1. Texas A&M might well benefit from joining the SEC over the Pac-16.

    Why?

    Because nothing really changes for A&M in the Pac-16. It is still lost in the penumbra of Texas' hotness, always playing second fiddle. A&M in the SEC would be able to market itself as the SEC team in Texas, the lone opportunity for hotshot Texas recruits to play football in the best football conference in America.

    Right now, what distinguishes A&M from Texas?

    Not much, right?

    But could Texas A&M plus the conference cachet of the SEC challenge Texas for state superiority?

    I think so.

    Wouldn't entering a recruit's living room and selling him on an experience that no one else in Texas can have -- that is, stay in the state close to home but play in the most football mad schools in the country on a regular basis -- be incredibly beneficial to the school?

    Plus, it would open up the fertile recruiting fields of the South to A&M.

    I think entering the SEC offers A&M the only chance it may have for generations to truly challenge Texas for state superiority.

    2. The Pac-16 would grit its teeth and proceed because it allows them to take Colorado and Baylor.

    Politically, the new conference would be unlikely to fight the move of Texas A&M to the SEC.

    Why?

    Because it eliminates the need for the conference to make a tough choice between Colorado, the school it wants, and Baylor, the school it's being forced to take.

    This way they'd get both schools.

    Ultimately the Pac-16 wants A&M, but losing the school wouldn't end the deal.

    3. Slive raises the price for the Pac-16's pursuit of Texas.

    Instead of waltzing into the state and splitting away the state's two premier football programs, the Pac-16 gets one major addition and the two weaker programs.

    Putting these schools into context, Texas is overall the No. 1 highest revenue athletic department in the country while Texas A&M is right around 20.

    Both are incredibly strong additions to any conference in America.

    Meanwhile, Baylor and Texas Tech are 56th and 58th in total athletic revenues meaning both schools fall beneath Vanderbilt in total athletic revenues.

    So Slive could swoop into the lucrative Texas television market while upping the price for the addition of Texas.

    It's brilliant.

    4. The other three Texas schools would all be moving to better conference situations as well, so they wouldn't mind splitting up.

    The idea that the Texas schools are sticking together out of loyalty is crap. The reason Baylor and Texas Tech want to be with Texas and Texas A&M is because the two premier programs in the state offer each the best route to a new destination.

    If the SEC or the Big Ten offered Baylor tomorrow, do you think Baylor is staying in a tenuous Big 12 position uncertain of a Pac-16 offer or leaping?

    It is leaping.

    With this move, three schools to the Pac-16 and one to the SEC, everyone is in a more lucrative financial position than they were in before expansion.

    If everybody is winning, all four schools don't have to go the same place.

    The schools only have to go to the same place to keep a school from losing.

    5. A&M could still play Texas on the Friday before Thanksgiving, only now it would be an out-of-conference game.

    Stop with these rivalry ending e-mails before they even start.

    The game at the end of the year would still happen, it would just be an out-of-conference tilt. Honestly, the brand new Pac-16 vs. the SEC would probably make it a bigger national game than it already is.

    And the game would retain all of the regional hate that it already has. There's already a template for these out-of-conference rivalry games in the SEC since Florida plays Florida State and South Carolina plays Clemson on the same weekend.

    What's more, since the yearly Texas A&M vs. Arkansas game would now become a conference event, there's an easy slot to allow the out-of-conference game to fit into.

    The SEC would then have the option of adding one ACC team from Florida, likely Florida State, and sticking at 14 or raiding the southern ACC schools and ending the ACC as we know it.

    Only one question remains: does the man who has kept more quiet than any conference commissioner throughout this entire process have a plan to squire away the state of Texas's solid eight?

    I think Mike Slive just might.

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    Nebraska butthurt that Texas has owned them from Big 12 day 1 starting with the James Brown miracle and ending with the Hunter Lawrence boot so they're bolting ship. Well tlong, looks like you can now look forward to having a giant burnt orange rammed up your Oregon ass in every major sport!

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    Texas and Aggie officials are meeting today to discuss what to do. Aggie jumping to SEC is worst case scenario because those bumbling fools would unwittingly open up the Texas hs goldmine to SEC assholes. We need to stick together to minimize that.

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    Tlong- So Cal Teams struggle against Cal & Arizona…Can’t wait for UCLA & USC to get regular azz whooping's by Texas & Oklahoma….

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    TMZ now reporting Okie St to Pac 10 a done deal.

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    Chips are a-fallin' fast. The dissolution of the Big12 will force Notre Dame's hand. Question is, which conference?

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    Texas Legislators doing everything they can to keep the Big 12 together, so the Pac 10 is going after all the small players first to splinter the league before the Legislators can even make a move.

    Baylor fans a super pissed.
    Last edited by IceColdBrewski; 06-10-2010 at 01:16 PM.

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    Texas Legislature doing everything they can to keep the Big 12 together, so the Pac 10 is going after all the small players first to splinter the league before the Tex Legislature can even make a move.
    Exactly. The Pac-10 really didn't want Tech and/or Baylor. Smart move by the Pac-10 taking control out of the Texas Legislature's hand, which both the Pac-10 and Big 10 knew could be a problem in landing Texas.

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    Exactly. The Pac-10 really didn't want Tech and/or Baylor.
    Eh. It's obvious they don't really want Baylor.

    I'm not kidding myself. Tech is that definitely that kid brother that you feel you have to have come along if you want to play with big brother, but I would think if the Pac10 didn't really want Tech, they wouldn't have offered them an invite so fast. They could have held out for the team you seem to think they want instead: Utah.

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    Nebraska butthurt that Texas has owned them from Big 12 day 1 starting with the James Brown miracle and ending with the Hunter Lawrence boot so they're bolting ship. Well tlong, looks like you can now look forward to having a giant burnt orange rammed up your Oregon ass in every major sport!
    I think you'll find we're a little more compe ive than you may imagine.

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    You better watch out for the Ducks too. Those guys are the University of Nike. Believe me, I know. They will hit the Texas recruiting grounds hard.

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    Just like they hit the breaking-and-entering hard out there in Eugene...

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    Chip Brown ChipBrownOB

    There is no truth to reports that Texas and Texas A&M are considering the Big Ten. But A&M is still considering the SEC. 1 minute ago via TweetDeck

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    Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech appear to be in lock step to the Pac-10 but will wait til next week to announce anything.

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    A&M needs to come too. We don't want Baylor.

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    A&M needs to come too. We don't want Baylor.
    A&M seems to have already shot down the idea of joining the pac 16. IMO at this point Texas and A&M going to the big 10 is the strongest possibility but if A&M does decide to go SEC on their own then Texas will join Pac 10.

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    A&M seems to have already shot down the idea of joining the pac 16. IMO at this point Texas and A&M going to the big 10 is the strongest possibility but if A&M does decide to go SEC on their own then Texas will join Pac 10.
    I think A&M will wise up and join UT in the Pac-16.

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    IMO at this point Texas and A&M going to the big 10 is the strongest possibility.
    no, them joining the Pac 10 is the strongest possibility at the moment.

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    Aggies have a hardon for the SEC all of the sudden.
    Last edited by IceColdBrewski; 06-11-2010 at 12:01 AM.

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    The Big West Conference should replace A&M with Kansas if they want a name, Utah if they want compe ion in both football and basketball, and Missouri if they want a good, but not great team to add some compe ive balance to the Southwest Division.

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    The Big West Conference should replace A&M with Kansas if they want a name, Utah if they want compe ion in both football and basketball, and Missouri if they want a good, but not great team to add some compe ive balance to the Southwest Division.
    I don't know, I think A&M can take Cal State-Fullerton, Long Beach and UC-Santa Barbara.

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    this is probably a stupid and oft-answered question, but what would the downside be for Texas if they went independent? I mean, they were thinking about their own freaking TV network anyways


    I hope the Big 12 stays together by inviting BSU

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    this is probably a stupid and oft-answered question, but what would the downside be for Texas if they went independent? I mean, they were thinking about their own freaking TV network anyways
    If it does in fact go to four 16 team conferences, each one would go after 2 auto bids. So basically, if you aren't in the conferences, you don't get a top 8 bowl bid...which is why everyone is saying ND will have to eventually join a conference.

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    If it does in fact go to four 16 team conferences, each one would go after 2 auto bids. So basically, if you aren't in the conferences, you don't get a top 8 bowl bid...which is why everyone is saying ND will have to eventually join a conference.
    there would still be a BCS no? and Texas could still be the #1 or #2 ranked BCS team right? and I'm sure they would always get an at large bid as long as they're in the top 25.

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    there would still be a BCS no? and Texas could still be the #1 or #2 ranked BCS team right? and I'm sure they would always get an at large bid as long as they're in the top 25.
    Not if each conference takes 2 auto bids for the bcs.

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