Tony Allen: Kobe intentionally kicked me in the neck!

[dallasmavsnfuego214]

Well reputation or not, it was painfully obvious it was unintentional....

If you wanna argue otherwise, have fun looking stupid

[Killakobe81]

Kiss my converse (nikes) Leroy!!! LOL

[VivaPopovich]

i'm rooting for the Celtics here but now the dirtiest team in the NBA can't take it when guys take their and throw it right back at them? don't , get him back

[BronxCowboy]

Kobe kicking Allen was accidental, but Bynum tripping Allen??? Looked like he extended his leg when it looked like Allen was going to get around him to me...

[BronxCowboy]

BTW, it seems that all you guys calling the Celtics the dirtiest team in the NBA are drinking PJ's Kool-Aid.

[Kamala]

Many of the best players have been dirty. Bird, Jordan, and Drexler come to mind as some pretty nasty bas s on the court.

[Giuseppe]

Bowen, Horry, Manu as well.

You don't ring by doing good.

[ezau]

I like Allen, but this thing is simply whining.

[Sisk]

Pretty clear this was unintentional

[FkLA]

You cant say this was unintentional simply because he was looking at the basket. KG was looking straight ahead when he elbowed Q-Rich who was behind him in the first round so by that logic, unless he has eyes in the back of his head, KG's elbow was also unintentional? Im pretty certain Kobe felt and likely even saw Allen through his peripheral vision. So like Harlem said, the fact that he's pulled off weak like this before doesnt help his defense much...I wouldnt put it past Kobe that this was indeed intentional.

[Giuseppe]

I wouldnt put it past Kobe that this was indeed intentional.

You got no room.

That barrel of Manu is a dirty thing as well.

[TJastal]

Which part of my post was false or "re ed"?..

I didn't watch the video, I just commented on Kobe's history as a dirty player, so any play of this kind becomes questionable when a player with Kobe's reputation is involved, similar to how the media treats other "dirty" players..that's on him for being dirty, when you do it so much, you get a reputation for it..

It's mind boggling that laker fans like to think Kobe is some kind of saintly figure who has never done anything dirty in his career, when in reality he's up there with the worst offenders the league has ever seen as far as dirty plays. It's laughable that he thinks if he's sly enough about it, people won't notice (as in this example). Of course, refs turn a blind eye to it and play dumb as if the hundreds of "accidental" elbows to the face are just that.. accidents.

[TJastal]

You got no room.

That barrel of Manu is a dirty thing as well.

There is a difference between the two. I have never seen Manu elbow anyone in the face or do anything to put another player in harms' way. The current laker squad (and especially KB) are notorious for taking cheap shots on other players if an opportunity arises.

[TJastal]

You cant say this was unintentional simply because he was looking at the basket. KG was looking straight ahead when he elbowed Q-Rich who was behind him in the first round so by that logic, unless he has eyes in the back of his head, KG's elbow was also unintentional? Im pretty certain Kobe felt and likely even saw Allen through his peripheral vision. So like Harlem said, the fact that he's pulled off weak like this before doesnt help his defense much...I wouldnt put it past Kobe that this was indeed intentional.

+1

I would say for 100% sure it was intentional. Who the kicks in the air after shooting a 3pt shot??

(beside Reggie Miller).. and he would only do it to flop on the floor in order to get a foul called.

[TJastal]

And for you dumb sticks who can't figure out why Allen was falling headfirst, Andrew Bynum sticks his leg out and trips him (should have been a foul IMO)

[TJastal]

Many of the best players have been dirty. Bird, Jordan, and Drexler come to mind as some pretty nasty bas s on the court.

I think the subject at hand is more about cheap shotting (as in, STRIKING an opponent with an elbow or fist), moreso than being "dirty" which is a more general term that could include other things like flops, holds, pushes, pulls, grabs, etc.

I don't remember Bird, Drexler, Jordan taking regular cheap shots on opponents (as in regularily elbowing/punching/kicking people "accidentally")

Karl Malone otoh might give KB a run for his money for being a total bag cheap shotter.

[Will Hunting]

It's mind boggling that laker fans like to think Kobe is some kind of saintly figure who has never done anything dirty in his career

Not nearly as "mind boggling" as Spurfan who thinks Bruce Bowen is a classy player who's never done anything dirty.

[Will Hunting]

+1

I would say for 100% sure it was intentional. Who the kicks in the air after shooting a 3pt shot??

(beside Reggie Miller).. and he would only do it to flop on the floor in order to get a foul called.

Reggie Miller was the best 3 point shooter of all time dip , tons of players have mimicked that move to try and get the foul.

[TJastal]

Not nearly as "mind boggling" as Spurfan who thinks Bruce Bowen is a classy player who's never done anything dirty.

I'll admit Bruce Bowen was a filthy bas who had a knack for getting away with alot of illegal things when refs weren't looking (grab, hold, kick, trip, etc)

Was he a regular cheap shotter? I don't think so.

[TJastal]

Reggie Miller was the best 3 point shooter of all time dip , tons of players have mimicked that move to try and get the foul.

Your point is moot. In this example it's clear that KB wasn't trying to get a foul by kicking his leg.

[Will Hunting]

Was he a regular cheap shotter? I don't think so.

Ray Allen, Carmelo Anthony, Steve Nash and countless other players would call this re ed.

[TJastal]

Ray Allen, Carmelo Anthony, Steve Nash and countless other players would call this re ed.

I guess you speak for them, then?

would these players call him a cheap shot artist? Or just a dirty player?

[Giuseppe]

I'll admit Bruce Bowen was a filthy bas who had a knack for getting away with alot of illegal things when refs weren't looking (grab, hold, kick, trip, etc)

Was he a regular cheap shotter? I don't think so.

[Giuseppe]

There is a difference between the two. I have never seen Manu elbow anyone in the face or do anything to put another player in harms' way. The current laker squad (and especially KB) are notorious for taking cheap shots on other players if an opportunity arises.

Manu throws elbows as well. That's harms' way, TJ.

Your squad (the old one, not the one with shaved poots that got beat flat by the Suns) we're just as dirty as our squad. Horry, thank goodness, rammed the Nash Rambler into the telephone pole. Bowen, would pull an Allen and put his different body parts under a jumper shooter's feet.

You've no room, sassafras.

[AZLouis]

There is a difference between the two. I have never seen Manu elbow anyone in the face or do anything to put another player in harms' way. The current laker squad (and especially KB) are notorious for taking cheap shots on other players if an opportunity arises.

I seem to remember a Manu flop that took Barbosa's knee out.

He missed 2-3 weeks in Manu's attempt to earn his SAG card.