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There's no telling. With Hamas no longer in the picture, something even worse could rise to fill the political vacuum.
Hey welcome to the discussion. Glad you could contribute so much. Maybe I should have just said, "people like ChumpDumper" instead of "no one".
No one?
Really?
That's your position?
There's no telling. With Hamas no longer in the picture, something even worse could rise to fill the political vacuum.
Hamas shoots rockets at Israel.
This is true.
How does restricting flour stop that?
Which is to say, I doubt that too.
I'm not talking about the people in terms of the entire populace no. I'm talking about Hamas and its followers + any people who think violence is a solution.
BTW, what's the status of the cease fire? Is there still one?
I believe attacks have declined since the blockade was implemented.
I don't like Netanyahu anymore than the next guy but it doesn't look like there will be a vote of no confidence. The Israeli people will have to vote him out at the next election if they want any semblance of peace. Unfortunately they also have to rely on the corresponding Palestinian leadership to seek peace.
We can definitely count on Palestinian leadership going by past events (see: Arafat at Camp David in 2000).
Did you just duck, Shasta?
The blockade creates animosity but it also reduces (I think) attacks on Israel's population. The circle of life in the Middle East.
That's the argument from expedience. If your mind comes to a full stop there that's a personal choice. It's ok to be one sided.
Not sure about that.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...mas-qassam.htm
There are wiki articles with lists of attacks by year, but no readily available totals.
Do you see yourself as one sided? Before I brought it up, had you ever mentioned the Israeli Soldier that was kidnapped or what the rocket attacks do to the southern Israeli population?
I'd like to see totals from 2009. I think if there was any decline in attacks it would have shown most prominently in 2009 after Hamas started running out of supplies (assuming the blockade was working). Going by numbers from May 10th, they had seemingly decreased. Only 50 from the beginning of 2010 to May 10th.
I did mention the rockets, yes. If not in this thread, I recently did in another. I characterized the number of rockets fired as a "double-assload."
Last edited by Winehole23; 06-10-2010 at 06:58 PM.
So if the blockade was to prevent the flow for missile and mortar supplies, why flour?
That's a question for the Israeli Govt. to answer since anything I say will be pure speculation.
The cir stances plead to moral conscience regardless of the legalities and conventions of the situation.
The blockade is wrong.
It's not and "Impossible-to-Answer Question." The connection between a hungry Palestinian population and keeping weapons out of the hands of Hamas is that Hamas rules the Palestinian People.
That's the connection.
Monetary aid is converted to weapons by Hamas.
Tangible aid is diverted by Hamas to cronies or withheld as punishment/meted out as reward.
Where does the billion dollars in aid go? Where does the aid Israel allows through the blockade go?
Last edited by Yonivore; 06-14-2010 at 06:41 PM.
Palestinians eat the food and use the medicine.
It's not like there are just ten people in need there.
(I don't think Yoni knows that there are 1.5 MILLION people in Gaza.)
Do they also use the weapons?
The vast majority do not, though the embargo seems to be increasing the number of those who would choose to.
Is that Israel's goal?
What do they do with the money we send them?
What does Israel do with the humanitarian aid they divert from flotillas? I hear they send it on to Gaza once it's determined to be strictly humanitarian.
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