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    Take Ferry off that list.

    Without Ferry they don't move on past the Suns in 2003.

    Doc Rivers was a darn good player too.
    Corey Aldexander Cadillac Anderson sure go ahead.

    Add Jamie Feick to that list as well.
    Danny Ferry...fair enough.

    Doc Rivers was ok. If youre putting a team together do you take RJ, or Doc? That was the main question. I'd take RJ over Carl Hererra as well.

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    True. Who else is out there? Even at the MLE?
    Yeah, not much is out there. Hopefully whatever happens with RJ happens fast so that the Spurs aren't stuck with an empty cupboard.

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    Stein makes an excellent point. The last player who shockingly opted out was Davis. Clearly, he knew what he was doing. Let's leave open the possibility Jefferson does, too.

    I find it hard to believe, but maybe the Spurs told him if he opted out, they'd reward him with, say, a three year contract worth $21 million?

    Maybe him and his agent just assume some of the teams with cap space will get shut out and when they do, they'll turn to players in his class?

    Or if, say, the Heat re-signs Wade and signs Bosh, but James spurns them, they'll turn to him?

    Who knows? But I've got to believe there is a method to his madness.

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    Danny Ferry...fair enough.

    Doc Rivers was ok. If your putting a team together do you take RJ, or Doc? That was the main question. I'd take RJ over Carl Hererra as well.
    Two different positions teams situations.

    Impossible to compare.

    Carl Herrera? yes he was pathetic...

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    Deng is good, but again not the best fit.

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    What about a three-team trade that sends RJ to NJ, Luol Deng to the Spurs and opens up even more cap space for the Bulls?
    Nifty idea, but why would New Jersey help out a free agency rival like Chicago?

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    Deng is good, but again not the best fit.
    He would probably fit in more than Jefferson.

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    Yes. And I thought the Spurs could sign Splitter to a deal up to the average player salary (MLE level) without using the MLE.
    They're going to have use the MLE on Splitter.

    That language you're using sounds like the provision to allow teams to resign their own FAs up to the value of the MLE that was added to the 2005 CBA to close the Arenas loophole.

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    Not as far-fetched as one would think.

    I read somewhere on ESPN.com today that the Bulls still need to clear up a bit more cap room to accomplish their goals for the summer. Of all the minor contracts they could move to accomplish this, the one contract they COULD or SHOULD move is Deng's.

    As fragile as he's been over the past couple of seasons, he's still a very good player. I'd do this trade.
    i wonder if we can pull a KVH type of contract SIGN N TRADE unteed to the bulls and they just buy him out?

    wouldnt mind noah, gibson or johnson on this team...

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    wow talk about the door being shut.


    Now we are in franchise limbo....making the playoffs with no chance at accomplishing anything

    Like the Jazz in in the late late 90's and early 00's

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    Deng is good, but again not the best fit.
    Beggars can't be choosers right now....

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    Nifty idea, but why would New Jersey help out a free agency rival like Chicago?
    Good point as well.

    He would probably fit in more than Jefferson.
    Maybe, but enough to want to bring his fat contract on? I think not. Spurs aren't doing something like that unless it is a home run.

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    wow talk about the door being shut.


    Now we are in franchise limbo....making the playoffs with no chance at accomplishing anything

    Like the Jazz in in the late late 90's and early 00's
    If the Spurs can't find a way to get RJ back, or at least S&T him with the Spurs getting a legitimate starting SF in return, that's exactly what they're going to be.

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    If the sign and trade possibilities are real, then this is our best chance for this next season. It's a gamble, but it has more upside then expecting lazy ass RJ coming into camp motivated and willing to adapt his game.

    I'm not saying this is a perfect situation, but having RJ on your team isn't a perfect situation either. Yes, he did play better in the playoffs but his contributions were more relative improvement than anything substantial.

    Ok RC. Time to earn your paycheck.

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    Beggars can't be choosers right now....
    Deng's contract is fat and longer than RJ's. No way you do that if your the Spurs just to get marginally better imo.

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    If the Spurs can't find a way to get RJ back, or at least S&T him with the Spurs getting a legitimate starting SF in return, that's exactly what they're going to be.
    sad thing is they could be there allready

    all hail splitter

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    I think you guys are way overrating RJ's role and impact. Talent wise, its a loss. But talent does not matter. Look at what RJ did on the court. Look at his impact. That is not that difficult to replace imo.

    I don't think the Spurs are much worse off. Maybe their bench depth, because the Spurs certainly could not survive RJ starting again.

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    sad thing is they could be there allready

    all hail splitter
    True.

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    lmao richard jefferson is a twitter trending topic

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    Two different positions teams situations.

    Impossible to compare.

    Carl Herrera? yes he was pathetic...
    Eric, if we're team captains about to start a pickup game...you're taking RJ over Doc. Now give me that.

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    resigning Jefferson to another deal would be a horrible decision. 1) he's a pile of crap 2) it'll extend the life of people to jump back off his bandwagon and label him the worst Spur ever.

    him opting out is the best thing that could've happen to the Spurs. he had zero trade value, even in the middle of the season, so stop with the BS.

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    wow talk about the door being shut.


    Now we are in franchise limbo....making the playoffs with no chance at accomplishing anything

    Like the Jazz in in the late late 90's and early 00's

    Did we forget that TP wasn't healthy all season? And we saw what Manu was like when he's healthy.

    Also, they need a SF who can make perimeter (especially the corner 3) and defend his position. They are not going to need all-world especially if the Big 3 still healthy this season.

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    Apparently Richard Jefferson is opting out of his contract and becomes a free agent.Don't ask for a link or source, I can't give it to you. Come back and crush me later if Im wrong. Should be out there later tonight anyway.
    I think most of us would just settle for you never posting here again. Cheers.

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    resigning Jefferson to another deal would be a horrible decision. 1) he's a pile of crap 2) it'll extend the life of people to jump back off his bandwagon and label him the worst Spur ever.

    him opting out is the best thing that could've happen to the Spurs. he had zero trade value, even in the middle of the season, so stop with the BS.

    I'm still waiting for that free agent your gonna sign to replace Richard Jefferson with...

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    Did we forget that TP wasn't healthy all season? And we saw what Manu was like when he's healthy.

    Also, they need a SF who can make perimeter (especially the corner 3) and defend his position. They are not going to need all-world especially if the Big 3 still healthy this season.
    "all we need is..."

    Is a silly thing to say. Yes all we need is a SF that can shoot good threes and play d. We have needed that since Bowen left.

    That's like saying all the Suns needed to beat the Lakers was a few more seven footers.

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