Rj coming back

[polandprzem]

The question the money

Spurs as always will try to produce as many options they are able to. But it's nbever was working greatly or it was but spurs are in bad spot from get go because of the market.

We do not have to trade RJ now. There is trading window in the season and I think it is always better to see how things will go and what kind of player in RJ next season we will have and who is available.

I do not like speculations now - when we do not know nothing

[ploto]

I rather let RJ go than re-signing him to a big contract. Letting RJ go will hurt Spurs next year, signing him to a 4 or 5 years contract with a salary above $8M per year will hurt Spurs for a long time.

Scary day- Me agreeing with Bruno.

Why would the Spurs "extend" the time of his contract into the time that they need money to retain Parker? The best options were to use it to trade for someone or to let it expire to loosen the purse strings next summer.

[spectator]

if u r the spurs, do you do one of these deals:

1. hill + rj (new contract) + picks (if needed for balance) for bosh

2. splitter's rights + rj(new contract) + picks (if needed for balance) for bosh

i think if we had offered hill + splitter's rights + rj for bosh would be too much, but i would do ANY of the prev. 2 options. especially the one that includes splitter.

it won't happen, but wth - it's free agency time; pipe dreams on me!!!

[Interrohater]

It makes perfect sense.

There's no way RJ opts out unless he has another deal in place.

And the only team he could legally talk to about any such deal before July 1 is . . . the Spurs.

interesting point... I'd be happy with that, if he really did some soul-searching and decided that would be his best option. I'm definitely not a RJ hater, I think (and hope) he should be heads and shoulders above where he was last year.

[stéphane]

V-Span for the LLE

[Hooks]

Please someone explain something to me, as I'm not aware of all the exact details.

RJ opts out = Spurs are screwed and we cannot sign a replacement since the drop off in salaries is not significant enough to give us more than the MLE. Here's the question: BUT, the Spurs can re-sign him? How is that possible? I just don't get it..
Everyone's been saying forever if he opts out it sucks cuz we won't have any added money to replace him with, but just how is it then possible to resign him or sign and trade him??? Please someone explain this to me.

As far I had understood, we're still left with the MLE whether he had opted out or not.

This.

[jiggy_55]

This.

Question has been answered on the other RJ thread.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...32#post4463032

[Chieflion]

Okay, people, how many people are actually repeating my 4 years, 32 million dollar contract thing?

[milkyway21]

good..i like rj....

me too.

[jermaine]

So did EricB say who it was or he still on some hoe ! I'm not understanding if he can't tell us who we signing, why in the did he post any ing thang!?! Quit being a ass lil kids an spill the dam beans! We don't give a who your source is, just tell her who we signing!

[jiggy_55]

So did EricB say who it was or he still on some hoe ! I'm not understanding if he can't tell us who we signing, why in the did he post any ing thang!?! Quit being a ass lil kids an spill the dam beans! We don't give a who your source is, just tell her who we signing!

Seriously..

EricB, send someone on this thread who has asked you about this a private message with the name lol.. That person will post it without mentioning you!

[jermaine]

If its McGrady people are going to say we won't get out the 1st rd. If its AI then people are going to say he's to short an will shoot to much. If its Shaq he's going to be to slow to most of you. I pray its R. Brewer or Big Z! Its more than likely Bruce coming back!

[Mel_13]

I like RJ on a three-year contract rather than four years. With a three-year deal, at least it'll end when Manu's contract ends. Theoretically, that could open up another window to bring in talent.

But I agree with Bruno that a good sign-and-trade is the best option. RJ for a trade exception would be fantastic. RJ for a better fitting SF would obviously be a plus.

I'm hoping the Spurs haven't promised RJ anything. If he walks, he walks. It won't be a great outcome but the poor fit on the Spurs makes him an average NBA player at best.

If I'm the Spurs, my gameplan with RJ would be to:

1) See if any team with cap space gets desperate and wants RJ in a sign-and-trade.
2) See if any team is willing to trade RJ for a SF that can shoot and/or defend.
3) See if there are any better-fitting SFs out there that are willing to sign for the LLE.
4) See if RJ will take a three-year deal.
5) Double check to see if there isn't a comparable SF willing to sign for the available money.
6) Wait for the summer league to make sure Hairston, Gee and Anderson aren't ready for big minutes in the NBA.
7) Begrudgingly offer RJ a four-year contract with the stipulation that he shoots 1,000 three-pointers a day and loses 20 pounds.

Seems like there's a Bonzi Wells type story every year, but I'm having a hard time accepting the notion that RJ opted without some assurance that he could recoup his losses through a long-term deal.

If RJ received such an assurance from the Spurs, you have to skip straight to #3 and then go to #7. If his opt out was indeed a surprise to the Spurs, then start and #1 and work that plan.

[Spurs Brazil]

First I'd like to see the Spurs take a look if they can get some cheap SFs ay FA, if it doesn't work I hope they don't offer RJ more than a 3 year contract. And no more than $ 20 million for that span

[buttsR4rebounding]

if rj comes back i will not watch a spurs game until after the trade deadline real mutha ing talk i been a spurs fan since berth no bandwagon if he signs back to us i will stop being a fan until he is gone

Good!! The sooner we sign him the sooner we can stop reading your BS takes.

[K-State Spur]

Once he opted out - making trading his expiring an impossibility - bringing him back at a lower rate is probably the best case scenario.

Any formula in which the Spurs win the le next year includes RJ returning to form and fitting in seamlessly. Unlikely? Absolutely. But more likely than a bunch of D-Leaguers and minimum vets manning the position at a championship level.

[TheChillFactor]

this is the worst case scenario IMO. if he stayed in we would have had a nice trade chip. after last year i'm not interested in this clown ing up my team for ANY price. either leave or keep the $15m trade chip.

god i hate this er.

[anakha]

He gave a verbal commitment to Miami. He backed out on it. Was I supposed to predict that ?

Which was still not what you initially reported. Which still means your 'source' crapped out.

Awfully convenient that all this 'after the fact' stuff you're saying is coming out now, though. Especially since I haven't seen any reports that there was a verbal agreement between Odom and Miami.

Give some proof that there was a verbal agreement, and I'll happily concede that point to you.

[mystargtr34]

First I'd like to see the Spurs take a look if they can get some cheap SFs ay FA, if it doesn't work I hope they don't offer RJ more than a 3 year contract. And no more than $ 20 million for that span

I hope your right, but i dont see the sense in him leaving $15M on the table for this season, to gain $5M over two extra years. The way he probably sees it, he would probably be looking at a deal starting at the MLE as a worst case if he were to wait until his current contract expires, which would give him around $26M over the next three years ($15M + $5.5M + $5.5M).

With that in mind, if he does re-sign, my guess would be at least $26M over three years - which is ok, but i agree with you in looking at the available FA wings for the LLE, and also look for S&T options for RJ.

Not sure i want him around for 3 more years at $9-10M Per.

[bigfan]

If we can get him at around 25 million for 3 years Id support it (not that the front office gives a crap whether or not I support it or not). If he walks, so be it.

[K-State Spur]

I rather let RJ go than re-signing him to a big contract. Letting RJ go will hurt Spurs next year, signing him to a 4 or 5 years contract with a salary above $8M per year will hurt Spurs for a long time. S&T is the best outcome for Spurs.

Any way you look at it, the Window is closing. It really doesn't matter if he's taking up a disproportionate portion of the cap when the majority of the roster will consist of rebuilding materials.

[Creation88]

people are still chasing EricB's BS source!? lol. give it up.

[TDMVPDPOY]

this is what i dont get with RJ

he left 15m on the table, why not play out the season, then test FA im sure he can still get mle for 2-4yrs? or is guaranteed contract all that important?

[Creation88]

Drew Gooden just signed for 5 yrs 32 million. i hope this prices Jefferson out of Spurs black and silver. hoping to God.

[lotr1trekkie]

Reading between the lines of the Monroe piece I got the feeling that this opt out is orchestrated. Jefferson, an intelligent man, did not want to play next season under a cloud. I get the feeling he likes security and stability. He hated his trade to the Bucks.
Spurs fans would have always hated him at 15m and rightfully so. At half that price he will fit in nicely. Probably can't get anyone better than RJ in the FA market. But not at 15m. This might work out. RJ wasn't a coaching problem but just a bad fit for Spurs BB.