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    Matty will have Splitter, that should be enough by Pop's standards. Pop will be content having Splitter holding the fort down by himself. He'll be an nba burnout by age 30 and developing arthritis and knee problems by then. But thank god we'll have a still healthy Matty Bonner to cheer for.
    Nah, Matt deserves a life-time contract. He's shooting has brought us so much over the years. Like the time he..........................

    Oh, and Pop should throw this wrinkle into the offense. Pop should isolate Matt at the top of the circle (ala Dirk) and let him create for others. I believe in him just like the Pop and R.C. do. Nobody does it better than Bonner can!!!!!!!!

    If he's playing well, I see Popovich giving him approximately 25 minutes per night, which would give Splitter the following averages: 9.7 points, 6 rebounds, 1.4 assists and 0.6 blocks.
    If that's all we're expecting from Tiago, then I see why Bonner was re-upped. Matt can get those numbers in his sleep, except for the rebounds or the blocks, but he can also knock down clutch three-pointers like Robert Horry.
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    Nah, Matt deserves a life-time contract. He's shooting has brought us so much over the years. Like the time he..........................

    Oh, and Pop should throw this wrinkle into the offense. Pop should isolate Matt at the top of the circle (ala Dirk) and let him create for others. I believe in him, just like the Pop and R.C. Nobody does it better than Bonner can!!!!!!!!
    I think Matty Bonner will eventually have his own personal fan club (from the cultist Pollyana Poppers) at home games who will hold signs such as "Matty first member of the 40/40 club!!"

    (meaning: 1st 40 year old player to shoot 40% from 3pt in regular season)

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    I think Matty Bonner will eventually have his own personal fan club (from the cultist Pollyana Poppers) at home games who will hold signs such as "Matty first member of the 40/40 club!!"

    (meaning: 1st 40 year old player to shoot 40% from 3pt in regular season)
    Then, they'll raise his no. 15 to the rafters. And, people will recount his amazing plays in leading the Spurs to victory. Like the time he scored 30 points in a half to beat Dallas in '09. Or, the time he swatted Goran Dragic's lay-up attempt to beat Phoenix in '10. Man, Matt is so great. He should've asked for max dollars like Joe Johnson.

    Anything to keep that gunner in town. Did I mention that he's so good that he can play mediocre defense and grab less than 4 rebounds a game. But, who gives a . He's a three-point shooting power forward after all.
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    Yet, I'm okay with that because the three-point king will still be here. Long live Matt Bonner, long live our three-point champion!!!!

    He's so damn great, he doesn't even need to play defense or rebound the ball!!

    Hopefully, in 2012 they trade Timmy to bring in players to support Matt and his great shooting.
    In fact, he's so damn great, he doesn't even need to knock down shots when it mattered most in the play-offs.

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    I didn't want Bonner back but since Spurs re-signed him I hope the reports are wrong and his contract is 10million/4 years, anything more would be terrible

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    According to a person familiar with the Knicks' thinking, the club will explore trading Wilson Chandler, possibly packaging him with the expiring contract of Eddy Curry. The Knicks would love to trade for a premier outside-shooting big man. New York Post

    Since most of you guys hate bonner, what about bonner for chandler?

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    I was just flicking through the remaining free agents and realised what we should have done... released Bonner ("Later, Rocket!") and signed Steve Novak for the minimum. He's got a sweeter shot than Bonner and is otherwise pretty similar. Yes, he's one-dimensional, but so is Bonner, at a saving of $3mil/yr. And yes, I am serious... kinda.

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    I was just flicking through the remaining free agents and realised what we should have done... released Bonner ("Later, Rocket!") and signed Steve Novak for the minimum. He's got a sweeter shot than Bonner and is otherwise pretty similar. Yes, he's one-dimensional, but so is Bonner, at a saving of $3mil/yr. And yes, I am serious... kinda.
    The problem with Novak is he is pretty much in quicksand outside the 3. Bonner has at least evolved his game with the occasional drive to the basket and if you think Bonner's defense is sometimes bad then you havn't seen Novak who's D is non existent.

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    Actually, they couldn't have signed Wright for what they paid Bonner, unless they decided not to sign Splitter. It wasn't an option.

    Spurs either a) signed Bonner or b) signed player with similar skill at LLE or vet min. The problem with option b is, who is that player?
    Why?

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    I am suggesting that Bonner well do what is asked of him by pop very well and that is to hit 3 pt shots. I would classify Bonner as an "amazing contributor" if he can shoot >45% from 3, as it stands he is a solid contributor at 40% while attempting 4 shots from beyond the arc per game. I can gurantee you Bonner wil be getting 15-20 minutes per game during the season. As for the playoffs, yes, I do agree he can improve his play and hopefully he will do so. Do you think Bonner is the reason the spurs lost in the playoffs? Bonner was only a small reason why the spurs played poorly against the suns and to lay blame on him is foolish.
    I don't hate Bonner. I've actually defended him many times in the past, especially last season early on in the year when is production was quite good. But that was then and this is now.

    I think where we are not finding common ground here is role and expectation. Splitter is here now, so that gives the Spurs four rotation bigs. Duncan should play 30min, Splitter 25, McDyess 20 and Blair 20. There are 96 available minutes on the front line...and that scenario would consume 95. The 5th big should only play spot duty and in situational lineups. That's why I'm saying Tolliver is a better option than Bonner. He's not as good of a shooter(he doesn't suck, as you suggest either...33% from the arc is serviceable), but he is quicker, a better rebounder, passer and at least has some upside. These are the types of thing one needs from an energy big. The fact that he could be signed at the minimum and not locked in to a long, expensive deal makes it an even easier choice.

    There is no longer the same role here for Bonner...unless you are saying you want to take minutes away from Splitter/Blair/McDyess.

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    I don't hate Bonner. I've actually defended him many times in the past, especially last season early on in the year when is production was quite good. But that was then and this is now.

    I think where we are not finding common ground here is role and expectation. Splitter is here now, so that gives the Spurs four rotation bigs. Duncan should play 30min, Splitter 25, McDyess 20 and Blair 20. There are 96 available minutes on the front line...and that scenario would consume 95. The 5th big should only play spot duty and in situational lineups. That's why I'm saying Tolliver is a better option than Bonner. He's not as good of a shooter(he doesn't suck, as you suggest either...33% from the arc is serviceable), but he is quicker, a better rebounder, passer and at least has some upside. These are the types of thing one needs from an energy big. The fact that he could be signed at the minimum and not locked in to a long, expensive deal makes it an even easier choice.

    There is no longer the same role here for Bonner...unless you are saying you want to take minutes away from Splitter/Blair/McDyess.
    +1

    Agree with every single point in Benefactor's post. If you're going to water down everyone's minutes by having a 5th rotation big, the spurs could have even kept Haislip around and signed on the super-cheap to give the spurs a more athletic option that can still chuck 3's@35%.

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    That's why I'm saying Tolliver is a better option than Bonner. He's not as good of a shooter(he doesn't suck, as you suggest either...33% from the arc is serviceable), but he is quicker, a better rebounder, passer and at least has some upside. These are the types of thing one needs from an energy big. The fact that he could be signed at the minimum and not locked in to a long, expensive deal makes it an even easier choice.

    There is no longer the same role here for Bonner...unless you are saying you want to take minutes away from Splitter/Blair/McDyess.
    Finally, we agree on the same thing.

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    I don't like Bonner either, but Tolliver is a stiff.

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    Splitter is here now, so that gives the Spurs four rotation bigs. Duncan should play 30min, Splitter 25, McDyess 20 and Blair 20. There are 96 available minutes on the front line...and that scenario would consume 95.
    There is no longer the same role here for Bonner...unless you are saying you want to take minutes away from Splitter/Blair/McDyess.
    that's why my first thought was (when Bonner was re signed) that Dice is on the trading block. if Dice is traded for a SF (he can bring back a salary from 3.8 to 6.2 million, should be possible to find a quality role player in that range. Delfino + filler anyone?)
    as much as I like Dice, but a front court rotation of Tim (30)-Tiago (25)-Blair (20)-Bonner (20) makes some sense.
    5th big would be a cheap player. (Ian?)

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    I don't like Bonner either, but Tolliver is a stiff.
    If were talking stiffs, I think Bonner qualifies as one more than Tolliver.

    Tolliver at least would have provided a healthy dose of athleticism with his scoring although he was poor at defense and rebounding (same as Bonner).

    All at a much better price.

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    that's why my first thought was (when Bonner was re signed) that Dice is on the trading block. if Dice is traded for a SF (he can bring back a salary from 3.8 to 6.2 million, should be possible to find a quality role player in that range. Delfino + filler anyone?)
    as much as I like Dice, but a front court rotation of Tim (30)-Tiago (25)-Blair (20)-Bonner (20) makes some sense.
    5th big would be a cheap player. (Ian?)
    From what I saw last year, the Bonner and Blair bench duo was just too porous on defense to be usable. It actually makes sense to you to reunite this failed tandem?

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    If were talking stiffs, I think Bonner qualifies as one more than Tolliver.
    No argument there. The Spurs overpaid Bonner for sure. There were better options too. I'm not getting behind Tolliver though. that noise.

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    No argument there. The Spurs overpaid Bonner for sure. There were better options too. I'm not getting behind Tolliver though. that noise.
    I'm not sold that there are/were better options for the LLE or minimum.

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    No argument there. The Spurs overpaid Bonner for sure. There were better options too. I'm not getting behind Tolliver though. that noise.
    Haislip you mean...

    Marcus was hardly given any minutes to learn the spurs' system and showcase his talents.

    The dude gave up a substantial amount of money to come here from Europe and barely saw any action as a spur. Who really knows what could have been, IMO.

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    I'm not sold that there are/were better options for the LLE or minimum.
    Steve Novak.

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    Haislip you mean...
    No. I meant Tolliver, but I would've preferred Haislip to Bonner or Tolliver.

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    Yeah I wouldn't have offered Bonner a contract either but as long as he is our nr 5 occassional 3pt shooting big it's ok. It's not surprising either since they played him heavy minutes in the past. I just cannot hate on Bonner cause I think he does his limited best.

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    No. I meant Tolliver, but I would've preferred Haislip to Bonner or Tolliver.
    Ahh, ya..my misunderstanding and up.

    Agree with you 100%. Haislip played all of 10 games (40 minutes total) .. that barely enough time to learn the plays..

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    Yeah I wouldn't have offered Bonner a contract either but as long as he is our nr 5 occassional 3pt shooting big it's ok. It's not surprising either since they played him heavy minutes in the past. I just cannot hate on Bonner cause I think he does his limited best.
    So its ok to water down everyone else's minutes and take what would have been a great 4 big rotation (Dunc,Splitter,McDyess,Blair) and turn into a pile of dog ?

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    I love the thread le .

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