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    The best option of available FAs is Ronnie Brewer. If the Spurs can get him on board on the cheap for a year, that is the best possible scenario. I don't like Howard, but if he's healthy (mentally and physically) he is very talented. Outside of that, Barnes or Butler would probably fit the bill. The options go downhill pretty steeply after that.
    Tracy McGrady is intriguing, but he is kind of a head, so I think he ends up in L.A. or Miami.

    I know everybody here hates RJ, but signing him should be a top priority. He is the best available SF with starter ability and the S&T option is appealing if we can get back TE or talent.

    If none of these options work out, the pickings get mighty slim and risky. Players like Joe Alexander, Jonathan Bender, Rodney Carney, Yakhouba Diawara, Stephen Graham and Jarvis Hayes are out there, but the Spurs would be taking a big gamble by taking a chance on them.

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    Lakers still have $1.8M left of their MLE and Raja is guy Kobe wants. The longtime rivals have already talked a lot by phone and text
    http://twitter.com/STEIN_LINE_HQ

    looks like kobe is recruiting raja bell.....so bell is likely going to the lakers....that leaves us howard(if celtics fall out of the race), barnes, butler, hayes, james jones....

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    Marcus Williams doesn't make the top 30 small forward free agents?
    Should probably slot him in there.

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    Marcus Williams doesn't make the top 30 small forward free agents?
    Should probably slot him in there.
    Well his price tag is obviously too big to be put on that list. Other swingmen who deserve the max are not on it as well.

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    We should see if we can get Danny Green from Cleveland.

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    It appears that Barnes is looking really hard for a job:

    Read more: http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_ar...#ixzz0tZtXqWyj

    Free-agent Matt Barnes has contacted the Warriors about a potential return to the team, but sources say an agreement is a longshot.

    Barnes, who signed a contract with the Magic last offseason, played two seasons with Golden State from 2006 to 2008.

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    The best option of available FAs is Ronnie Brewer. If the Spurs can get him on board on the cheap for a year, that is the best possible scenario. I don't like Howard, but if he's healthy (mentally and physically) he is very talented. Outside of that, Barnes or Butler would probably fit the bill. The options go downhill pretty steeply after that.
    Tracy McGrady is intriguing, but he is kind of a head, so I think he ends up in L.A. or Miami.

    I know everybody here hates RJ, but signing him should be a top priority. He is the best available SF with starter ability and the S&T option is appealing if we can get back TE or talent.

    If none of these options work out, the pickings get mighty slim and risky. Players like Joe Alexander, Jonathan Bender, Rodney Carney, Yakhouba Diawara, Stephen Graham and Jarvis Hayes are out there, but the Spurs would be taking a big gamble by taking a chance on them.

    I like the mention of Brewer...seems to me like he is a very viable (and previously not thought to be affordable) option at this point.

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    I know everybody here hates RJ, but signing him should be a top priority. He is the best available SF with starter ability and the S&T option is appealing if we can get back TE or talent.


    The primary problem with Jefferson was his contract. His production vis a vis his pay didn't make sense. That shouldn't be a problem with a new deal. And you're absolutely right, the dropoff between Jefferson and the next likely candidate for the starting 3 spot is significant. Plus he should show some improvement in his 2nd season with the Spurs.

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    The primary problem with Jefferson was his contract. His production vis a vis his pay didn't make sense. That shouldn't be a problem with a new deal. And you're absolutely right, the dropoff between Jefferson and the next likely candidate for the starting 3 spot is significant. Plus he should show some improvement in his 2nd season with the Spurs.
    +1

    RJ is our best candidate and yes he should be spurs main priority

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    Marcus Williams doesn't make the top 30 small forward free agents?
    Should probably slot him in there.
    Seeing as how the Spurs dumped Marcus Williams so that they could keep two other small forwards in Hairston and Gee, Marcus Williams making the top 30 available small forwards list would be a good sign that it's okay for the Spurs to stop looking for small forwards.

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    RT @christomasson Ronnie Brewer an option to replace Wesley Matthews in Utah. At FanHouse: http://bit.ly/ccC5wn

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    I can't believe y'all seriously welcome Josh Howard...

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    The primary problem with Jefferson was his contract. His production vis a vis his pay didn't make sense. That shouldn't be a problem with a new deal. And you're absolutely right, the dropoff between Jefferson and the next likely candidate for the starting 3 spot is significant. Plus he should show some improvement in his 2nd season with the Spurs.
    The primary problem with Jefferson wasn't his contract, I disagree..the only reason they were able to acquire him was because of his bad contract..his contract just put the Spurs over the tax, it didn't really affect them from making other moves..I would argue that his new contract is even worse, since it's going to be a multi-year deal..

    The problem with Jefferson is that he doesn't fit as a starter here, and I doubt that will change TBH..he'll have to go back to his 40% 3-point shooting, which was more than likely an anomaly..

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    From David Aldridge twitter about an hour ago...

    Knicks making a pitch to Josh Howard today; Howard still considering Wizards seriously, along w/Bulls, Cs. Story up soon on NBA.com.
    Doesn't look like the Spurs are considering Howard at this point, which is a shame. He seems like a low-risk, high-reward type player. But maybe he's out of the Spurs' price range.

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    From David Aldridge twitter about an hour ago...



    Doesn't look like the Spurs are considering Howard at this point, which is a shame. He seems like a low-risk, high-reward type player. But maybe he's out of the Spurs' price range.
    I think thats exactly the case. Look at the 3 teams he's interested in, all can offer more $ than the spurs. Not going to lose any sleep over this guy though...

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    Barnes held a recent interview and didn't mention Spurs as possibility. Mentions Lakers, Dallas, etc. Here's the link and blip...

    http://sportsradiointerviews.com/201...his-offseason/

    On how many teams he has talked to this offseason:

    “We’ve been talking to a few teams. Orlando, Miami, the Lakers, and Dallas and it’s always kinda been my thing where I have to wait around and see.
    I suppose the fact that the Lakers are interested in him could be positive news...they might not like their chances of luring Bell, so they've tabbed Barnes as a backup.

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    From David Aldridge twitter about an hour ago...



    Doesn't look like the Spurs are considering Howard at this point, which is a shame. He seems like a low-risk, high-reward type player. But maybe he's out of the Spurs' price range.
    The problem with the Spurs going after Howard is that he's not going to be in any kind of a hurry to take LLE or the Spurs remaining MLE while other teams out there have cap space or full MLE's to work with. Sure would suck for the Spurs to lose out on Bell/Butler/Jones because they're waiting on Howard, only to then see Howard sign a deal for more money elsewhere.

    The only approach with Howard the Spurs can take is to call him up and offer the remaining MLE, but unless Howard gives an immediate yes, they need to move on.

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    Barnes held a recent interview and didn't mention Spurs as possibility. Mentions Lakers, Dallas, etc. Here's the link and blip...

    http://sportsradiointerviews.com/201...his-offseason/



    I suppose the fact that the Lakers are interested in him could be positive news...they might not like their chances of luring Bell, so they've tabbed Barnes as a backup.
    Are the lakers interested in Barnes, or is Barnes interested in the lakers? One has to wonder because there's a long list of teams who want nothing to do with the guy. It sure seems like all the buzz about Barnes is being generated directly from Barnes.

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    If the Spurs aren't going to sign RJ and need a starter out of free agency, the only two players to sign for the rest of the MLE are Matt Barnes and Rasual Butler.

    The more I look at Barnes, the more he makes sense. He's a good defender, a great rebounder for a small forward, finishes well at the basket and has three-point range. His three-point percentage doesn't look good on paper but his splits tell an interesting story. When he starts he can really shoot from deep -- 35.8% in 2010, 38.2% in 2009 and 38.1% in 2008. His shooting struggles from three-point land are when he's coming off the bench -- 18.8% in 2008, 28.8% in 2009 and 28.7% in 2008.

    From strictly a value point of view, the Spurs would get more bang for the buck signing Barnes for ~$2.5M and starting him at small forward than signing Richard Jefferson for ~$7M and starting him at power forward. Barnes would hold some risk because of his history of making everyone around him hate him by the end of the season, but the reward would be a small forward who could fit a valuable role for cheap.

    Butler doesn't offer the upset you could get from Barnes but he's an extremely safe bet. He's a solid defender, a 36.3% three-point shooter and stays healthy. He could buy 20-25 minutes of decent play.
    Last edited by timvp; 07-15-2010 at 11:08 PM.

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    I would like a Butler signing....He doesnt have the highest bball IQ but I like his clutch 3 point shooting and tough defensive play

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    Regardless if we bring back jefferson or not the spurs are going to sign one more wingman to the roster. Despite James Anderson's upside value being drafted for the spurs you still haven't seen him play one single minute with NBA talent. I don't see Pop and crew gambling on him to be able to play the wing effectively as a starter or 2nd wing off the bench without seeing him play consistently proving them he can.

    I have to think the spurs are after someone who can effectively bring in some shooting apply average defense and some rebounding if possible. Thats why I see Barnes as good prospect to bring in.

    And just like timvp said, the man may be a potential locker room cancer. I just have to believe that Pop could do a better job maintaining a locker room and a player like this better than the prettier Van Gundy.

    And if he is providing results on the court I don't see how Duncan and the rest of the crew would give two s about him in the locker room, they just want to win another NBA Finals if they can.

    I don't mean to sound like a broken record if I beginning to sound like one. But Barnes is possible the best of the crop left to SIGN in free agency.

    Jones, Butler wouldn't be bad pick ups, but you are not going to be jumping out of your seat in regards to what they bring to the spurs system. They'll just be a better addition than what we had taking minutes last season.

    *edit*

    And honestly, I really only see Anderson playing SG and sometimes defending the 3.

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    You had me until you said "prettier Van Gundy".

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    Well, I still laugh when I think of a certain sports announcer referring to said Van Gundy being the prettier Van Gundy. I wish someone on TNT would make a bet with Jeff in game. The conversation would be something like this.

    Jackson: I won the bet Jeff.
    Van Gundy: I know.
    Jackson: say it.
    Van Gundy: I didn't specify when I had to say it on air.
    Jackson: Just say the dang word Jeffrey.
    Van Gundy: ....sigh GOLEM, Golem.
    Jackson: You definitely are not the pretty Van Gundy.
    Van Gundy: I hate you.

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    You are right. I forgot about that. I think it was Mark Jackson. Had to be. "Prettier" is just a weird way to say it.

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    who is that in your avatar? I want to say it's a really young Tom Waits. Who is a bad ass musician.

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