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Are these the same people who predicted that Olowakandi is the second coming of Shaq? Do you think that the Blazers aren't kicking themselves now that they drafted Oden instead of Durant?
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But you're laughing at people that projected how good he would be before he ever got injured as though they're idiots for predicting it, so are you must be laughing at the fact that they can't see the future because the predictions are sound based on his talent.
And yes, Oden can still be a good player in the league. Didn't a guy who had microfracture knee surgery a few years ago just sign a 100 million dollar contract with the Knicks? Oden's left knee injury last year was caused by a collision. Anyone's patella would have broken in that situation.
By the way, if you'd predicted four years ago that he was going to have a knee injury, would it make you smart or just lucky?
Are these the same people who predicted that Olowakandi is the second coming of Shaq? Do you think that the Blazers aren't kicking themselves now that they drafted Oden instead of Durant?
Don't change the subject. Are you saying that people are stupid for not predicting that Oden was going to run into someone and break his kneecap? Why would you laugh at the predictions as though they're inaccurate when we still don't know how good Oden can be?
Do you understand the way time works, and that people can't see things before they happen like you can looking back afterward? Look up "hindsight" before you continue ting on people who have bad luck as though they should have known what was going to happen.
If he doesn't get injured again, he could be an all-star. If he gets hit by a bus before next season, does that make my prediction bad?
Why don't you tell that to Pritchard? Maybe he can get his job back. Just saying
You're a moron. Just saying.
All 30 GMs in 2007 would have taken Oden with the 1st pick, maybe they should all be fired. Just saying.
No, seriously. If the Blazers think the way you do, maybe they won't fire Pritchard because the dude "can't possibly predict that our boy Oden is going to get injured sometime in the future".
Don't get me wrong, I think Oden is a very good guy and I still think that he'll have a decent career in this league if he can find a way to be healthy. My point is, I will still pick an above-average player who is proven to be durable, than a guy who is clearly very talented, but whose durability is questionable.
Pritchard's being fired by Portland has nothing to do with Oden. Nothing.
If the Thunders had had the #1 pick they would have picked Oden. The Thunders got lucky they drafted 2nd, that's all there is to it.Don't get me wrong, I think Oden is a very good guy and I still think that he'll have a decent career in this league if he can find a way to be healthy. My point is, I will still pick an above-average player who is proven to be durable, than a guy who is clearly very talented, but whose durability is questionable.
If it has nothing to do with Oden, then what?
Because the rule is draft the best big man over the best small man
Does Splitter have any outside perimeter shot and scoring game? All the highlights I see of him have him dunking on shorter players.
If not he will struggle to get points in the nba.
His midrange J isn't that good, so I wouldn't expect him to rely on it too much in his rookie season. Maybe he'd concentrate on improving it in the future, but I wouldn't expect much this season.
On the other hand he's a really crafty and smart player, he has a few nice post moves and is good at finding the right positions under the basket in a Fabricio Oberto kind of way. I would expect him to get most of his points off put backs and receiving good passes from Manu/Tony/Tim under the basket and off PnR. He's also good at setting picks offensively, though, as mentioned before he might have problems with foul calls on some of them, he'd have to adjust a bit.
All in all, offensively, don't expect him to be great, just a better, longer version of Oberto, but it's his defense that could really help the Spurs right away if he's able to translate his game well enough.
Firing Pritchard was the most stunningly stupid move in the NBA this year, and it's not even close. There's pretty much universal agreement on that point. In fact, the only thing that would be stupider would be if Allen fired him because Greg Oden broke his knee in a collision.
Might ask TLong for some additional input, but my take is that they didn't win a le, and someone had to be the scapegoat. Tom Penn and Kevin Pritchard were there. If pressed, Allen would probably mention the contracts of Darius Miles and Raef Lafrentz or the trade of Steve Blake.
They fired Pritchard before the draft and told him the firing would become effective after the draft. I suppose it's possible they are actually that stupid to blame the front office for Oden's bad luck.
I think thats a great assesment of tiago..I would like to add after seeing tiago playing against some good defensive players (esp. in the spanish playoffs) that his footwork and quickness in the post is above average.
I know it's stupid, but it's also widely acknowledged that Oden's drafting was largely blamed on Pritchard.
Agree on you with this. The rational thing is not blame Oden for getting injured. No player wants that to get injured at all.
Then again, the Blazers, seeing how well Durant had panned out, blamed Pritchard for drafting him. I think it's just one of the reasons, but I read somewhere that he fell out of Allen's favor after a string of failures.
Pritchard had the misfortune of having the first pick. I think it's also widely acknowledged that every team would have picked Oden first.
If Oden comes back from his knee injury as completely as Amare did there's every possilbility that he could have a career comparable with Durant.
You act like that was Oden's first injury. He has three major knee injuries in three years. Sure three years ago you may have been lucky to predict that he would get injured but now? Not so much.
Griffin not only had a knee injury but it was setback several times during the recovery process.
While these guys have major talent, its production that is important. If you cannot get on the court then you produce nada.
I'm sorry, what does any of that have to do with predictions people made before any of Oden's injuries?
And what bearing does that have any anything within the realm of reality? What people predicted would have happened three years ago is immaterial to anything other than patting yourself on the back. The entire reason why Oden's injuries were even brought up were because of what will happen now in predicting the future from now. If you want to talk about meaningless drivel then go right ahead.
A 250+ lbs with knee problems is always a bad thing. There is also a train of thought that guys that grow that tall and play high impact athletics during that time period are prone to degenerative knee conditions.
From a purely logical standpoint it makes a ton of sense. Its akin to kids that suck their thumbs being more prone to over/underbites.
Seeing that both payers have had knee injuries from the get go raises that concern and Griffin's issues lingered. I do not expect Bynum to have a long career for the same reasons.
wtf, Blake Griffin knee is shot. he has 0 post up game....this guy shot his wad last year in pre-season HE IS DONE.
And what what pertaining do have there to do to do with that which we were talking about?
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Sorry I do not always proofread my posts. Was it too difficult for you to understand?
Point is there is a long and storied of history big men's careers being scuttled early because of knee problems. Griffin is not off to a very good start in regards to that.
Greg Oden didn't have knee problems in college.
He was also 19 when he was drafted near the end of his growth cycle. You see the same issues begin to arise when Bynum was 19. Griffin was 20.
Are you really going to argue that reoccurring knee issues in young players is not a major concern?
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