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    ex Hornets78 Pelicans78's Avatar
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    Caron Butler + dip s still work IMHO. the problem is just the same old one that the re ed manager loves his current squad so much he can hardly make any more to remove anyone of them, even when he knows such a move would certainly improve his squad. I think the Vagina for Chandler move was quite a hard decision for him IMHO, and it would have been repealed by him but for his diamond-like friendship with ghazi and ghazi's strong recommandation for this trade.
    The problem is Dallas can't trade Chandler with other players. I would do CP3 & Okafor for Chandler, Butler, and Beaubois, but it doesn't work because Chandler has some weird restriction.

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    This is exactly what I was thinking. If he doesn't want to play in N.O., why in the world would they even think of viewing his "list" or letting him have any input at all on who he is traded to? If he wants to be traded, then the Hornets have to do what's in the best interest of the team and seek the best possible deal.
    I agree. I wouldn't trade him right now either unless Okafor is involved in the deal. Trading CP3 means starting a rebuilding process and that cannot occur with Okafor's contract.

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    that admitting you're not the man and teaming up w/ multiple superstars is now known as "The Lebron Model."

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    The problem is Dallas can't trade Chandler with other players. I would do CP3 & Okafor for Chandler, Butler, and Beaubois, but it doesn't work because Chandler has some weird restriction.
    Logically speaking, when such things happen, you do 2 separate deals, it is a loophole, but yeah.

    Okafor for Butler and Beaubois.

    Then

    Chris Paul for Chandler.

    The numbers work. It was because Chandler was just recently traded and he can't be packaged with another player for 3 months.

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    Logically speaking, when such things happen, you do 2 separate deals, it is a loophole, but yeah.

    Okafor for Butler and Beaubois.

    Then

    Chris Paul for Chandler.

    The numbers work. It was because Chandler was just recently traded and he can't be packaged with another player for 3 months.
    If thats the case I would do it. It would clear a horrible contract in Okafor, get a really good young 6th man in Beaubois, give us two veteran starters who are expiring contracts. Good way to start a rebuilding process with a new owner, a young new GM, and a young new head coach.

    C Chandler (expiring)
    PF West (most likely expiring)
    SF Butler (expiring)
    SG Thornton
    PG Collison

    Beaubois, Peja (expiring), Songalia (expiring), Gray, Pondexter

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    For all the LeBron got for The Decision debacle, this is a much bigger move.

    Demanding a trade is one thing. Demanding a trade to one of three teams? Giving your current team basically no leverage to shop for the best return on the trade?

    Chris Paul. I hope New Orleans just sits his ass on the bench for the whole season.

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    For all the LeBron got for The Decision debacle, this is a much bigger move.

    Demanding a trade is one thing. Demanding a trade to one of three teams? Giving your current team basically no leverage to shop for the best return on the trade?

    Chris Paul. I hope New Orleans just sits his ass on the bench for the whole season.
    He doesn't have a no trade clause. Hornets can trade him to whoever they want.

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    Lakers aren't on the list anymore. It's Orlando, Dallas, Portland, and New York.
    We never were ... they just say "lakers" to drive up the price on the schumcks GM's inthe NBA ...

    Orlando offers the best young superstar to be paired with ...
    Dallas the best current star ...
    NY and Portland make little sense ...

    Ny has a PG friendly system but a damaged goods amare ...
    unless roy is coming back in the deal that is a bad "fit" basketball wise ...

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    I agree. I wouldn't trade him right now either unless Okafor is involved in the deal. Trading CP3 means starting a rebuilding process and that cannot occur with Okafor's contract.
    Dallas would do it ...

    just make sure you dump Okafor, get chandler and Caron as expirings and force them to include roddy

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    http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=290427003

    How come everyone will give Lebron for giving up last playoffs, but everyone forgets CP3 ing and quitting on his team AT HOME in playoffs?

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    He doesn't have a no trade clause. Hornets can trade him to whoever they want.
    But why would another team trade for him if he's going to be disgruntled and perhaps refuse to play?

    If I'm Minnesota or someone like that, no way I trade for Paul when he's made it clear there are only three teams he wants to play for.

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    But why would another team trade for him if he's going to be disgruntled and perhaps refuse to play?

    If I'm Minnesota or someone like that, no way I trade for Paul when he's made it clear there are only three teams he wants to play for.
    Just so they can say they've had Chris Paul on their team. That's just about all they can hope for with this lopsidedness.

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    Dallas would do it ...

    just make sure you dump Okafor, get chandler and Caron as expirings and force them to include roddy
    I would definitely do that trade.

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    Man... Paul, Kobe, Pau instantly > Lebron, Bosh, Wade. He'll probably end up in NY though, and the Hornets have no one to blame but themselves

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    I just saw that his list actually consists of the Knicks, Magic, Blazers, or Mavericks, NOT the Lakers.

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    its what BSPN is reporting anyways... take it fwiw

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    The Knicks have more to offer than any other team tbh, the problem is that if Nawlins wants the team to take Okafor's contract it takes NY out of the Melo sweepstakes if they have Amare, Felton, CP3 and Okafor all under contract next off season. New York was re ed to give Felton that contract. Douglas, Randolph, Turiaf, Curry, and Azukuibe does it for NY cap wise, if Nawlins takes that deal NY would have a decent team next year:

    CP3/Felton
    Bill Walker/Wilson Chandler
    Danilo Galinari/Wilson Chandler
    Amare/whoever
    Okafor/Mozgov

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    I just saw that his list actually consists of the Knicks, Magic, Blazers, or Mavericks, NOT the Lakers.
    What could they possibly offer now that the Dust has blown away?

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    What could they possibly offer now that the Dust has blown away?
    Butler, Barea, Stevenson (all expirings), Beaubois, Jones (young talent)

    Perhaps even S&T with Haywood, as he hasnt officially signed yet I don't believe. Mavs probably would have to take back a bad contract or two, like Peja, Posey, or Okafor.

    Still unlikely that he comes, but you never know...

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    Butler, Barea, Stevenson (all expirings), Beaubois, Jones (young talent)

    Perhaps even S&T with Haywood, as he hasnt officially signed yet I don't believe. Mavs probably would have to take back a bad contract or two, like Peja, Posey, or Okafor.

    Still unlikely that he comes, but you never know...
    I wouldn't mind dealing any of them as long as we keep Butler. I'd prefer we try to keep the team from last year intact without dealing any core players unless it's an upgrade at that position. That's why i obviously wouldn't mind us dealing away Beaubois for a huge upgrade at pg

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    I wouldn't mind dealing any of them as long as we keep Butler. I'd prefer we try to keep the team from last year intact without dealing any core players unless it's an upgrade at that position. That's why i obviously wouldn't mind us dealing away Beaubois for a huge upgrade at pg
    I would hate to lose Butler too, but with his talent, as well as his large expiring ($10 mil +), he almost certainly would have to be included. I would be incredibly shocked if they pulled it off without trading him.

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    I just saw that his list actually consists of the Knicks, Magic, Blazers, or Mavericks, NOT the Lakers.
    No one actually knows what the list is. But the Lakers are always on the list to be honest. The whole thing doesn't add up since the original story was Paul wanting to play with another superstar yet he includes the Mavericks and Knicks?

    If the Lakers were serious about trading for CP3 I can't see any scenario where he would about that.

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    No one actually knows what the list is. But the Lakers are always on the list to be honest. The whole thing doesn't add up since the original story was Paul wanting to play with another superstar yet he includes the Mavericks and Knicks?

    If the Lakers were serious about trading for CP3 I can't see any scenario where he would about that.
    tbh, i could see the Lakers getting away with a Paul for Morrison, Walton trade

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