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  1. #101
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    "And in the meantime Amare is the all NBA player and Bosh isn't"

    Only because Amare played with Nash. 70% of this board knows Bosh > Amare


    And prior to the trading deadline, he was getting tons of crap for his lazy play:

    http://www.basketballfreeforall.com/...tter-to-amare/


    As for Bosh quitting, I'd post articles but then you'd whine about them being from Toronto who have a bias against Bosh.

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    Surprised it took this long for Spurfan to involve Stern in his conspiracy theory.


    I'm not one to blame David Stern for the Suns ups. And look at the OP of the thread you're posting in, Colangelo doesn't seem to care very much about not looking butt hurt. If there was any evidence of blatant tampering Toronto and/or Cleveland would run with it.
    That's a first. And second of all, proving tampering in court is hard to do. Take a poll on whether or not the trio had been tampering but don't be too surprised when it's a resounding Yes.

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    As for Bosh quitting, I'd post articles but then you'd whine about them being from Toronto who have a bias against Bosh.
    They had a bias against Bosh "during the season"? You said people were accusing him of not trying "during the season".

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    How could someone just shrivel up like a vagina (in your words) if they're having a career year. Wouldn't they want to keep it going?

    Hence why Bosh > Amare. Even when he's not trying 100% he still had a better year than Amare.

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    They had a bias against Bosh "during the season"? You said people were accusing him of not trying "during the season".
    Towards the latter third of the season, yes.

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    "And in the meantime Amare is the all NBA player and Bosh isn't"

    Only because Amare played with Nash. 70% of this board knows Bosh > Amare
    I'm pretty sure if Bosh > Amare was so obvious the voters woulda given Bosh the all NBA nod over Amare.

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    I'm pretty sure if Bosh > Amare was so obvious the voters woulda given Bosh the all NBA nod over Amare.
    Nope, because team success matters. Big time. You won't find too many players on fringe playoff teams making it to the All NBA team. Amare deservedly got a lot of hype when he started busting ass in the 2nd half of the season when the Suns made a push to secure a playoff spot when everyone left them for dead.


    As for tampering:

    "Wade wasn’t allowed to recruit for the Heat before the end of the NBA Finals, because he was still a Heat employee. Yet before the end of the Finals, there were two June meetings that involved Wade and members of James’ inner circle – one in Ohio and another in Chicago. The NBA doesn’t seem interested in pursuing a tampering probe, but a senior NBA official wants the league to investigate whether Riley promised James employment and benefits to members of his camp."

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    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...eeagency071610

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    2009-10 All-NBA Teams

    FIRST TEAM
    Position Player, Team (1st Team Votes) Points
    Forward LeBron James, Cleveland (122) 610
    Forward Kevin Durant, Oklahoma City (107) 579
    Center Dwight Howard, Orlando (122) 610
    Guard Kobe Bryant, L.A. Lakers (119) 604
    Guard Dwyane Wade, Miami (81) 520


    SECOND TEAM
    Forward Carmelo Anthony, Denver (9) 321
    Forward Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas (10) 356
    Center Amare Stoudemire, Phoenix (2) 239
    Guard Steve Nash, Phoenix (24) 366
    Guard Deron Williams, Utah (14) 343

    THIRD TEAM
    Forward Tim Duncan, San Antonio -- 125
    Forward Pau Gasol, L.A. Lakers -- 94
    Center Andrew Bogut, Milwaukee -- 149
    Guard Joe Johnson, Atlanta -- 118
    Guard Brandon Roy, Portland -- 87


    All of these players came from playoff teams.

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    2009-10 All-NBA Teams

    FIRST TEAM
    Position Player, Team (1st Team Votes) Points
    Forward LeBron James, Cleveland (122) 610
    Forward Kevin Durant, Oklahoma City (107) 579
    Center Dwight Howard, Orlando (122) 610
    Guard Kobe Bryant, L.A. Lakers (119) 604
    Guard Dwyane Wade, Miami (81) 520


    SECOND TEAM
    Forward Carmelo Anthony, Denver (9) 321
    Forward Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas (10) 356
    Center Amare Stoudemire, Phoenix (2) 239
    Guard Steve Nash, Phoenix (24) 366
    Guard Deron Williams, Utah (14) 343

    THIRD TEAM
    Forward Tim Duncan, San Antonio -- 125
    Forward Pau Gasol, L.A. Lakers -- 94
    Center Andrew Bogut, Milwaukee -- 149
    Guard Joe Johnson, Atlanta -- 118
    Guard Brandon Roy, Portland -- 87


    All of these players came from playoff teams.
    Exactly, the reason Toronto was not a playoff team was because Bosh was a huge .

    Thanks for proving yourself wrong.

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    Exactly, the reason Toronto was not a playoff team was because Bosh was a huge .

    Thanks for proving yourself wrong.
    So if Amare was on the Raptors, they would have made the playoffs? Really? A contract year gave him something extra to play for, but I think Amare is just as much of a as Bosh. Amare has been criticized plenty during his career.

    http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns...mire-plan.html

    @ the comments from Suns fans

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    http://forums.realgm.com/boards/view...?f=27&t=855139

    And even Suns fans think Bosh > Amare

    /thread

    Was fun

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    Bosh played great defense during the Olympics. I don't know if his lackluster D in the NBA so far has been due to not caring or not playing with the same caliber of players, but I expect him to play better D this year.

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    Chris Bosh is horribly overrated, even in this thread.

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    Bosh played great defense during the Olympics. I don't know if his lackluster D in the NBA so far has been due to not caring or not playing with the same caliber of players, but I expect him to play better D this year.
    When motivated he can play passable defense, though I suppose you could say the same for Amare. I think like Vince Carter, he just gave up towards the end of his final year with the Raptors. They had a good first half to the season.

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    Chris Bosh is horribly overrated, even in this thread.

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    Alot of Suns fans are ing stupid, just like alot of NBA fans in general are ing stupid. You being case in point.

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    Alot of Suns fans are ing stupid, just like alot of NBA fans in general are ing stupid. You being case in point.
    Says the got whose a Suns fan himself

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    we need a poll !

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    Wow Colangelo's an idiot. Why the would you slam a former star player especially if no one wants to come to Toronto unless they get overpaid anyway.

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    I'd take Amare over the Rupaul of Big Men.

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    Toronto was rarely featured on the US national broadcasting schedule

    so how come we all knew about vince and tracey ....vince made team usa when he played for the raptors so did Bosh it's not about being scene.
    oh riddle this!??!Bosh did make team usa and amare didn't
    even with suns being viewed more mmmmmmmm i wonder why??

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    So 2 of the Heat's leaders are known quitters, this should go down well if the Heat ever hit trouble

    Wade is the only Heat star with any heart.

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    Bosh has been overrated by some segments of NBA fans here for a wihle.

    Bosh could be a fantastic 2nd or 3rd fiddle, but like the article said, he can never be a cornerstone type of player.

    He is a poor man's version of Garnett on offense, and his defense is poor due to his slight frame and his at ude.

    I would take Amare over Bosh any day of the week, and I hate Amare.

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    Bosh has been overrated by some segments of NBA fans here for a wihle.

    Bosh could be a fantastic 2nd or 3rd fiddle, but like the article said, he can never be a cornerstone type of player.

    He is a poor man's version of Garnett on offense, and his defense is poor due to his slight frame and his at ude.

    I would take Amare over Bosh any day of the week, and I hate Amare.
    It's easy to say that Bosh is overrated

    It's not his fault if his team has sucked and that he hasnt had a good coach yet
    Plus, Amare has played with a 2 time MVP, Bosh hasn't

    And nobody said he was overrated when the Raptors won their division

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    So 2 of the Heat's leaders are known quitters, this should go down well if the Heat ever hit trouble

    Wade is the only Heat star with any heart.
    Two hearts, don't forget the one he took from the city of Dallas.

    Maybe he'll share one with Rupaul.

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