Duncan,Kobe and Dirk...

[Supergirl]

fixed

dirk (and to an extent nash) wasted half their careers playing nellie ball. Give some of those teams phil or pop, and they probably snatch a ring.

The dirk-era mavs have always had great talent, but lacked a great coach.

+1

[picc84]

But, son, as much as you dislike Dirk, you have to admit that he's never had a big man of Gasol's or Shaq's caliber to cover up his poor shooting efforts. You know Kobe has played with the greatest talent in the post-Jordan era.

Dirk had to shoot lights out for those Mavs to have any chance. If he was off, there was no Shaq or Gasol to dump it down into for a high-percentage attempt.

Thats what Dirk's 7 feet of height is for. If he wasn't a giant shooting guard maybe he wouldn't need a Shaq or Gasol.

[Zelophehad]

Thats what Dirk's 7 feet of height is for. If he wasn't a giant shooting guard maybe he wouldn't need a Shaq or Gasol.

at Kobe's playoff results without Shaq or Gasol.

[sribb43]

Dirk - Prime Mike Finley, Steve Nash and 57 win teams ..... he's had good, solid players around him

@ Prime Michael Finley

2001 conf semi game 5

Finley 1-17 fg 0-0 FT = 2 points
Dirk 14-24fg 14-18ft 18reb = 42 points

Even during Finleys glory years, a young Dirk still had to carry his stepback jumper ass

[picc84]

at Kobe's playoff results without Shaq or Gasol.

Whats is Dirk having more first round exits in the past 3 years than Kobe has in his entire career.

1 seed

2 seed

bukakked by 121-63

[Zelophehad]

@ Prime Michael Finley

2001 conf semi game 5

Finley 1-17 fg 0-0 FT = 2 points
Dirk 14-24fg 14-18ft 18reb = 42 points

Even during Finleys glory years, a young Dirk still had to carry his stepback jumper ass

Let's not on Findawg here just because some re is comparing him to Shaquille O'Neal.

[Mike-in-brazil]

midnight said:

The Dirk-era Mavs have always had great talent, but lacked a great coach.

sorry ,but lack of defense did that not A johnson!!( lost in finals)


mingus said:

Kobe had to threaten to leave and he acted like a little in doing so. dont compare him to Tim and Dirk as far is loyalty is concerned.

and how do u know what goes on behind close doors?..just because Dirk or Tim never went public....


zelop said:

at Kobe's playoff results without Shaq or Gasol.

laugh at anyone without out their key players...it depreciates them to Dirk outcomes

[Zelophehad]

Whats is Dirk having more first round exits in the past 3 years than Kobe has in his entire career.

1 seed

2 seed

bukakked by 121-63

never out of the first round without Shaq or Kobe
Dirk made it to the NBA Finals in 2006 with Howard as the second best player

[picc84]

never out of the first round without Shaq or Kobe
Dirk made it to the NBA Finals in 2006 with Howard as the second best player

1 seed

2 seed

2-0 2-1 2-2 2-3 2-4

62-61 after 3

[Zelophehad]

1 seed

2 seed

2-0 2-1 2-2 2-3 2-4

62-61 after 3

http://www.basketball-reference.com/.../gamelog/2006/

0-1 1-1 2-1 3-1 3-2 3-3 3-4
what are the chances Kobe would have made "The Decision" look tame by comparison if his team hadn't been gifted Gasol? 99%? 100%? 110%?

[21_Blessings]

Either way, Michael Finley and Mavs era Steve Nash hardly competes with prime Shaq and Gasol.

Either way, Dirk hardly competes with Kobe.

[pad300]

But, son, as much as you dislike Dirk, you have to admit that he's never had a big man of Gasol's or Shaq's caliber to cover up his poor shooting efforts. You know Kobe has played with the greatest talent in the post-Jordan era.

Dirk had to shoot lights out for those Mavs to have any chance. If he was off, there was no Shaq or Gasol to dump it down into for a high-percentage attempt.

Dirk's 7 ft tall and plays PF.

He's not supposed to need "a big man of Gasol's or Shaq's caliber to cover up his poor shooting efforts."

He's supposed to BE the big man who covers up for Jet/Finley/Howard/Nash/Kidd/Whoever's poor shooting efforts...

[JamStone]

never out of the first round without Shaq or Kobe

Kobe really, really sucks without Kobe, tbh.

[demosthenes247]

Dirk's 7 ft tall and plays PF.

He's not supposed to need "a big man of Gasol's or Shaq's caliber to cover up his poor shooting efforts."

He's supposed to BE the big man who covers up for Jet/Finley/Howard/Nash/Kidd/Whoever's poor shooting efforts...

How many les did Shaq and Gasol win without Kobe and Wade?

It doesn't really matter whether Dirk is cast as the "big man of Gasol's or Shaq's caliber" or a 7 ft shooting guard, the reality remains that he hasn't had a superstar complement of Shaq, Kobe, or Wade's caliber ever.

[Shank]

I love these threads that go around in vitriolic circles, trying to belittle Dirk's career and accomplishments.

[21_Blessings]

I love these threads that go around in vitriolic circles, trying to belittle Dirk's career and accomplishments.

Dirk belittled his own career by perpetually choking.

[Leetonidas]

What's funny is if Parker and Ginobili never played with Tim, they would never be considered great championship talent. Ginobili maybe, but Parker has sucked in 2/3 Finals.

[21_Blessings]

What's funny is if Parker and Ginobili never played with Tim, they would never be considered great championship talent. Ginobili maybe, but Parker has sucked in 2/3 Finals.

Same goes for Pau Gasol. 0-12

[picc84]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/.../gamelog/2006/

0-1 1-1 2-1 3-1 3-2 3-3 3-4
what are the chances Kobe would have made "The Decision" look tame by comparison if his team hadn't been gifted Gasol? 99%? 100%? 110%?

we stacked

2 seed

1-0 1-1 1-2 1-3 2-3 2-4

7 foot Jason Terry

[Dr House]

Same goes for Pau Gasol. 0-12

Are we still down for tonight?

You might need to bring your own condoms, I don't think your penis will fit in Lakaluvas. lolz I could barely feel that thing

[Shank]

Dirk belittled his own career by perpetually choking.

Standard messageboard response. Aside from that 2007 abortion, it's been dispelled. What else do you have?

[21_Blessings]

Standard messageboard response. Aside from that 2007 abortion, it's been dispelled. What else do you have?

What else does Dirk have beside exiting the first round to a lowly 7 seed?

[Shank]

What else does Dirk have beside exiting the first round to a lowly 7 seed?

You dumb mother er.

[21_Blessings]

What a ing farce.

[JamStone]

I love these threads that go around in vitriolic circles, trying to belittle Dirk's career and accomplishments.

Doesn't that happen with pretty much every great player by fans of opposing teams? It's not like Dirk is even one of the most hated on players, on these messageboards anyway. Dirk gets a lot of love on these boards especially considering it's not a Mavs messageboard. I think a month ago, Spurs fans even started a thread giving him props for being a tough SOB, and even Laker fans showed Dirk some love.