The debate is not whether man is the smartest animal on earth. That is quite obvious. There are differences and man has developed skills the other great apes have not.
But none of that means we're not animals.
Until I see an animal, cut a 1/2 acre yard and edge it, wash and wax an automobile..........write a research paper, speak a few sentences of English, hit a home run in a ballpark, rebuild the motor in a boat or truck, construct a house or building........make millions a year in sports, invent any damn thing in the world.......etc. etc. etc............. animals and humans will never be the same.
Are babies not human? I have never seen a baby do any of those things.Until I see an animal, cut a 1/2 acre yard and edge it, wash and wax an automobile..........write a research paper, speak a few sentences of English, hit a home run in a ballpark, rebuild the motor in a boat or truck, construct a house or building........make millions a year in sports, invent any damn thing in the world.......etc. etc. etc............. animals and humans will never be the same.
The funny thing is the average UTSA student can't do some things on that list.Until I see an animal, cut a 1/2 acre yard and edge it, wash and wax an automobile..........write a research paper, speak a few sentences of English, hit a home run in a ballpark, rebuild the motor in a boat or truck, construct a house or building........make millions a year in sports, invent any damn thing in the world.......etc. etc. etc............. animals and humans will never be the same.
Ahhh haaaa, I see what you did there with the word average. Sneaky, but acceptable.
From another viewpoint,
The difference between animals and humans is what drives our relationships and how we derive our happiness from those relationships.
Animals develop relationships for survival.
We as humans, have a deeper meaning to our relationships. We do not choose our wives or husbands just to have someone to procreate with. We choose them because we feel a connection, something deeper that pulls us together, or at least that's why we should choose them.
Our true happiness stems from the love we feel within our relationships.
Animals may or may not be on this level, I have never spoken to one, maybe some are and others aren't, but I think that is what truly separates us.
A lot more people have open marriages than you probably think because people are so judgmental about it. I've known people with open marriages and they are normal, loving people with happy, healthy children, not desperate s or amoral animals. If it's not your cup of tea, then don't sleep around. It's that simple.
I'm not surprised, as I can easily equate an open marriage to a husband or wife masturbating to porn, and we all know that happens quite frequently.
These people, of whom I was one until recently, will most definitely seem like quite normal and loving people.
Ask yourself this though, do they have any true love for the person they are cheating with? Do they love the person they are masturbating to? Most often not. Most often they are just another person with whom to get their sexual gratification from and then never see again.
So in essence, these normal loving people are using other people and allowing themselves to be used in the process.
Do you like to be used? Do you like to use other people?
Hopefully not.
And I'm not asking these questions to you personally, I'm asking them generally.
Isn't that the point, though? They already have loving, committed relationships. An affair is a sexual relationship without the pretense of commitment or love, which is the opposite of using people if that's what two consenting adults agree to do.
There are many people in affairs who think they are in love.
How's it stabbing someone in the back if they know what their spouse is doing and don't mind?
Sorry, this is complete utter bull ...
There are multiple do ented cases of your so called "animals" protecting their kin even when they are not family. In fact, I think they are more "human" then we sapiens are at times.
No doubt they mate to survive, but what do you say about the remote human tribes that live that same life style in remote regions like in South Africa? Are they not human?
Survival is hardcoded in all of us.... human or otherwise.... Just because we have an advanced understanding of science, or some belief in a religion, doesnt seperate us from being sapien.
They mate because they HAVE to. We wouldnt be here without that, regardless if we evolved or not.
What would happen to the human race today if we met a global cotastophy and held to the belief of monogomy?
I will answer that..... the human race would die.
plain and simple.
I dont like it much, but its the cold hard truth. If hits the fan, society is going to go back to the middle ages and maybe even worse... Women will be raped.... people will starve... but life will find a way.
Thats the way of "life" not "god".
Last edited by phyzik; 08-06-2010 at 01:12 AM.
It's a fraud and unfair then.
Jesus is all loving and has no hate.....
Except for Revelation 2:6
Sorry people, the bible is full of contridictions.....
Its story covers its own ass and has been modified countless times with countless ommisions to suit the governing body of the church. Nevermind that a TON of the stories have been ripped off from civilizations that existed THOUSANDS of years prior.
My whole problem is with "religion". I dont have a problem believing in a higher being... its "Religion" thats the problem with me.
Look at EVERY single war... EVERY ONE.... all of them have to do with some type of religious belief at their core begining..... ALL OF THEM!
religion is the cancer of human society today and has been for thousands of years.
Until people buck the trend of religion, we will not be able to advance collectively as the human race.
Bottom line.
Last edited by phyzik; 08-06-2010 at 01:27 AM.
Wow how did I know the thread would devolve to this?
One singular thought:
SpursWoman, you're a self-admitted swallower, lover of non-condom sex, and have claimed to have a libido to match a young 15 year old Cretan boy. So ing NATURALLY you would not expect a guy to want other pussy. Any guy in a monogamous relationship would slice off one ball to have a chick with your sexual credentials.
I just choked on my coffee .... thanks.
Well, Summers, I think I just have a different viewpoint on it. From my perspective, it's an agreement to use each other with no strings attached...and with permission from their husband or wife to share the most intimate thing they can with a complete stranger for no good reason other than that they must satisfy their uncontrolled lust.
These people are not masters of their own domain and simply refuse to control themselves.
I cannot claim to be much different, as I know I need to lose weight and I still sit down in front of a good chinese meal or mexican plate more often than I should...but at the same time, that is not directly using another human being.
Still, the self control point remains.
These people that step out on their loving relationships and children, I just wonder if this is what they hope their children grow up to do as well. They are setting the example after all.
So you DO know the truth about Jesus and Our Father.
The passage you refer to simply states how the one who holds the seven stars in his right hand, the one who walks among the seven gold lampstands, hates evil deeds.Except for Revelation 2:6
Sorry people, the bible is full of contradictions.....
Would someone with true love in their heart, not have a disdain for evil deeds?
This passage does not say there is a hatred for the people perpertrating these deeds, only a hatred of the evil actions themselves.
It is a blessing, and it says this is in your favor, because who among us reading this right now does not have disdain for evil deeds?
If you question your answer to that, then you are currently a sleepwalker.
Time to wake up my friends.
Revelation 2
The Message to the Church in Ephesus
“Write this letter to the angel[a] of the church in Ephesus. This is the message from the one who holds the seven stars in his right hand, the one who walks among the seven gold lampstands:
2 “I know all the things you do. I have seen your hard work and your patient endurance. I know you don’t tolerate evil people. You have examined the claims of those who say they are apostles but are not. You have discovered they are liars. 3 You have patiently suffered for me without quitting.
4 “But I have this complaint against you. You don’t love me or each other as you did at first![b] 5 Look how far you have fallen! Turn back to me and do the works you did at first. If you don’t repent, I will come and remove your lampstand from its place among the churches. 6 But this is in your favor: You hate the evil deeds of the Nicolaitans, just as I do.
7 “Anyone with ears to hear must listen to the Spirit and understand what he is saying to the churches. To everyone who is victorious I will give fruit from the tree of life in the paradise of God.
You seem to have a problem with 'religion'. Good. What you have a problem with is the inconsistencies and the contradictions. Your insight is serving you well. Hold fast to the New Testament and the Teachings and path of Jesus. Get your primary education from the source. Jesus and God are True Love. That is the truth, the way, and the light. Hold fast to that, and you will see like never before.Its story covers its own ass and has been modified countless times with countless ommisions to suit the governing body of the church. Nevermind that a TON of the stories have been ripped off from civilizations that existed THOUSANDS of years prior.
My whole problem is with "religion". I dont have a problem believing in a higher being... its "Religion" thats the problem with me.
Look at EVERY single war... EVERY ONE.... all of them have to do with some type of religious belief at their core begining..... ALL OF THEM!
religion is the cancer of human society today and has been for thousands of years.
Until people buck the trend of religion, we will not be able to advance collectively as the human race.
Bottom line.
Do not let yourselves be fooled by those who 'fight' for God, for they are simply serving the evil one. God wants us to love for Him. Love in His name. Those that choose to fight are lost.
God Bless you.
What kind of life is that.
I'd rather die serving God's will then live serving my own simply to survive in a cruel world such as the one you speak of...such as the one we live in now.
Look around. People are raped and murdered at alarming rates and there are millions in the world if not more starving right this moment.
The world is what it is...at the moment.
Many kinds. Such arrangements are far more common than you think.
I would argue that if people really love each other, they have a relationship built on mutual respect, trust, and understanding, rather than on what one partner will "let" the other partner do.
Man you're so noble and above animals Zak. Serving God's will and all.
The only similarity between me and an animal is that Im a BEAST in the sack when it comes to sexin the ladies.
It's incorrect to assume that sex is viewed as the "most intimate thing" for all couples. I, personally, don't think that a physical act is anywhere near as intimate as the mental, emotional, and spiritual connection felt between me and the person I love.
Which is not to say that I engage in open relationships, by the way. I have no problem keeping things casual when that's all I'm after, but I tend to be naturally physically monogamous when I love someone. Sex is still sex, though. I've been cheated on in the past, and it hurts like , but not because my boyfriend stuck his penis in someone else. The dishonesty is what hurt. The loss of trust is what hurt. The knowledge that my partner was keeping such a huge piece of himself from me is what hurt. All of those things are, to me, much more intimate than the physical act of sex.
I tend to think that if you do stray/cheat, then you should shut your ing mouth about it. The guilt, shame, pain and hurt are yours to bear, and yours alone.
I tend to think that's dependent on the type of cheating you're doing or have done.
A one-time drunken mistake that won't be repeated? Sure. I can understand keeping it quiet. It's not necessarily what I would do, because I tend to be too honest for my own damn good, but I get it.
A long, involved, affair in which you're essentially living a second life with someone? At that point I think you owe it to the person you once loved to be honest so that they have a chance to move on. Affairs that long always get discovered and I can guarantee it hurts less to be left than to find out you've been lied to for years. I would also say the same for chronic cheating. Even if you don't confess to cheating, you should have the decency to be honest about the fact your relationship is no longer working.
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