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Because you own laker fans in an argument and they get butthurt and have nothing else to say
Can we wait atleast until the season starts and then make predictions
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Because you own laker fans in an argument and they get butthurt and have nothing else to say
No, actually you have failed and now are trying to save face. In fact by adding links to people you "owned" is a fail in it self. Bet you won't add a link to this thread where Harlem bent you over for you obvious ignorance.
No. Threads like that already exist. Still waiting for you to report back with an accurate tally of what % of Spurs fans that feel that way are.
I told you not to go here, and you did. Here's a thread when the Lakers and OKC were tied 2-2.
http://thelakersnation.com/forums/in...time-to-panic/
A lot of Lakers fans gave up. Locate the game 7 thread from the finals at that site. I heard lot of Lakers fans gave up in the 3rd quarter.
check out Lakersground and ClubLakers back in the early spring. Plenty of doubters among Lakers fans.
yeah, you fail again, plenty of Lakers fans gave up on them.
And we are supposed to think you have credibility when you don't say why they aren't great? Let's see, you said LeBron has finals experience and that counts. However, Dallas and Orlando have it as well, and they won games and have players left from those teams. Portland and OKC seem to be the teams of the future in the west. Let's see how they do.Wait, which ones are the great teams?..why are you naming all those teams?..Nuggets? Blazers? OKC? Dallas? SA? Chicago? Orlando?
By your logic, I can say that Bosh is not a great player without giving a reason and that makes it law. I already told you, your little award you love to boast about doesn't give you carte blanche here.
How about Celtics fans? Check their boards out. Celticsblog for one. A lot of their fans gave up on that team back in January!
Man, you are way too easy, no challenge at all. Don't go to prison, ever. hang on to your soap in the shower if you do, and never smile at anyone bigger than you.
Smart move to take the L . thanks for your time. However, it's only your opinion what I say is unbelievable. I backed it up logically. Later.
No, I succeeded because HH37 conceded. The link to this thread is already in my signature, and I'll gladly pick up the argument with HH37 if he wants, anytime. You're a troll, and you didn't even back up what HH37 said. No one did. That in itself tells who won.
Gee, I can go claim I beat LeBron in one on one basketball. If you guys can spread untruths as fact, so can I. Bring me something worthwhile to argue, or don't waste my time. I shoot down big prey and got my jollies already.
Daddy of All Trolls, when did NBA teams get the ability to travel back in time? How did the 2006 Heat lose in the 2005 ECF with homecourt advantage? How is that possible?
If you read a little more carefully you will have your answer. The 2005 Heat did not go back in time and lose the 2005 ECF with HCA.
My list gives the first year recent NBA champions won a le with that team as constructed with it's core pieces. It also shows how they fared before they won a le. Lakers and Celtics of the 80's had gaps in their runs and needed more players to keep winning.
So, the 2006 Heat were champions, building on the loss of the 2005 Heat. Jordan lost with his Bulls, Bird lost with his Celtics, Kareem lost with his Lakers, etc, all before they won a le. 2 exceptions, 2008 Celtics and 1977 Blazers.Naturally, every team had to win it's first le, but most were able to win again.
the 1981 Celtics failed first year with Bird. Sixers and Lakers were better then them in 1982-83. Edit: they had to add Dennis Johnson in 1984, and Bill Walton in 1986.
the 1983 Sixers failed in 1977, 1980, and 1982
the 1980 Lakers (Kareem) needed Magic Johnson, and later James Worthy.
the 1991 Bulls was MJ's 7th season.
the 1989 Pistons lost in the finals in 1988 and the ECF in a heartbreaker in 1987.
the 1994 rockets needed MJ gone, and how many years with Hakeem?
The 1999 spurs failed in Duncan's first year. It took 4 more years to win again.
The 2000 Lakers needed Phil Jackson to get Shaq and Kobe going in their 4th year together
The 2004 Pistons failed just before in the ECF, 2003.
The 2006 Heat failed in 2005 in the ECF with HCA.
The 2008 Celtics were the first year one hit since maybe the 1977 Blazers. they dumped 2 superstars, Petrie and Wicks, got Mo Lucas and a few other key pieces to team with Walton and cleaned up the Lakers and Sixers.
The 2009 Lakers lost for 4 years without Shaq.
In summary, most teams that won multiple les in the last 31 seasons won again with that unit. Exceptions are 1983 Sixers, 2004 Pistons, 2006 Heat, and 2008 Celtics.
One change I would make in the other list I posted is as follows, separating the Lakers 5 les in 11 years, because those Lakers teams are completely different:
What I said earlier makes sense. If the Miami Superfriends wins 3 les it's a huge success. That's how many Larry Bird's Celtics won. More les is better, 2 or fewer isn't so good with all the expectations placed on this team. If they win 7 les, then they have topped MJ's Bulls.Bulls; 6 les in 8 years, 1991-1998.
Lakers: 5 les in 9 years, 1980-1988
Spurs: 4 les in 9 years, 1999-2007
Lakers: 3 les in 3 years, 2000-2002
Celtics: 3 les in 6 years, 1981-1986.
Pistons: 2 les in 2 years, 1989-1990.
Rockets: 2 les in 2 years, 1994-1995.
Lakers: 2 les in 2 years, 2009-2010.
Nice work daddy!
Dispatched those trolls quite quickly I would say.
Add another thread to dat dere sig!
Note: player eras tend to outlast championship eras. The exception is Bill Russell's 11 in 13 back in the age of dinosaurs 8 teams and 2 playoff series.
Celtics 80's championship era was 7 years, Bird played 12
Lakers 80's championship era was 9 years, Magic played 11
Bulls championship era was 8 years, Jordan played 14
Spurs championship era is 9 years, Duncan has played 13.
And so on.
How long will this Heat era last? I would say as long as both LaBron and Wade play together. Minimum 4 years, maximum, probably 10. Guessing how many les they will win is tough, but the comparison to other teams is easy to make by looking at what they already did.
Hey, thanks a million!
Sig of the year
They are gonna be good but Chris Bosh is not a prime Tim Duncan. He's a good all star Forward that has never won squat. He's like Chris Webber.. IF he doesn't meet expectations, they won't win the le..
Chris Bosh is a #3 option..just think about that..
He doesn't need to be Duncan. He's the 3rd option behind Lebron and Wade.
Only way anyone's gonna beat them is if they have three things.
1. Frontcourt offense to punish the weak interior defenders of the Heat.
2. A great interior defense to pack the paint.
3. At least 2 perimeter players that can create their own shot and draw fouls, so as not to allow either Wade or James to rest on defense.
If you have 1 or 2 of those things, you won't beat Miami. If you have all 3, you have a chance.
Hope you're wrong. Lakers don't have #3. Kobe's great at creating his own shots and getting to the line, but there aren't any other perimeter players on LA who do this.
By the by, the teams that would seem to fit your criteria are Boston, San Antonio, maybe Chicago (depends on how sold you are on their interior D), and Orlando (depends on whether you think Carter can still create his own shot and draw fouls -- yeah, not a sure bet).
Breaking the record and then losing in the finals.
Teams with all 3 are LA and Boston, possibly Orlando.
However Orlando's problems go deeper because they have the weakest perimeter defenders of all 3 teams. Vince Carter got absolutely destroyed by Paul Pierce in the ECF. What will Wade or James do to him? Red is good for chasing Ray Allen around screens but in an isolation against Dwyane Wade he is going to be anally raped.
LA and Boston are the only teams I see with a legit chance to beat Miami. Orlando has an outside shot, but barely.
Chicago doesn't have enough two-way perimeter players nor do they have the interior defense needed. Both Korver and Brewer will be huge liabilities against a team like Miami, which is why I criticized Chicago for putting their eggs in those two's basket. If they hadn't traded Kirk "Wade-Stopper" Hinrich away, they'd be in better shape, but they did, so they're screwed.
San Antonio is not even in the conversation, they have neither the offense nor the defense to beat Miami.
Boston and LA both have frontcourt players who can take advantage of the soft interior of Miami, both have great halfcourt defenses. Allen and Pierce can make the cHeat duo work on defense. Kobe and Artest can as well. Allen/Pierce and Kobe/Artest are all good perimeter defenders as well, the main advantage they have over Orlando.
Agree or disagree with overall assessment.
Webber>Bosh
Breaking the record and then losing in the finals to the Lakers.
Artest would have to make massive strides during the off-season to be a good offensive player, TBH..
they can have 77 win. As long as they don't get those 16 playoff wins is all I care about .....
Didn't you guys think for one second that JVG was sarcastic with his comments?
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