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  1. #101
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    As for golf being a sport or not, imo golf is the most demanding sport I've ever played having played football, tennis, track, basketball through college and I like to do a little compe ive walking when I have the time.

    The amount of mental focus needed to hit a tiny ass white ball 400 plus yards into a cup the size of a large coffe mug in 4 strokes or less is simply insane on the difficulty meter.

    As for Tiger, I've always been a fan of his regardless of his activities off the golf course. I just enjoyed watching him play the game at a level that, unless you've played golf, have no idea how hard it is to maintain that kind of consistency.

    I think his problem at this point is that he can't devote the amount of time he used to in the past to his craft. His body has begun to break down more and more, his mental game is in the toilet, and there are now a bunch of young 20 something year old golfers on tour that can hit the ball a mile, are strong mentally, and most importantly they aren't scared or intimidated by Tiger or any other verteran on tour. I used to think him beating Jack's record was just a matter of time, now I have some serious doubts that he'll ever get past 18 majors.

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    I just plain hate Elin though. She was a c-list model/child-care professional who was plucked from obscurity and given everything. She never mattered to me or the rest of the public in any other capacity until the day she decided she was going to nail Tiger's nuts to the floor and destroy his bank account, his psyche and his golf game. Yeah, he did her wrong sexually; he also gave her unimaginable wealth and security. So, so what? Who the is Elin to me? Why should I care about her getting cheated on? The only thing I care about is that she got so bent out of shape about it that my formerly favorite athlete is now incapable of fulfilling his professional potential.
    So he just cheated, no big deal and to with Elin??? LMAO........what? Tiger was having unprotected sex with porn stars and 6-7 other women while he was impregnating his WIFE!!!! And you hate Elin? He was putting his whole family.......... kids included in danger with STDs and possibly HIV.

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    I think people are writing him off a little too soon. Yeah, he just played a horrible 72 holes (for him) but I think most golfers have had bad weekends. I suspect the embarrassing loss will motivate him to get his ass to the driving range and get his game back.

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    The tighter he holds onto golf, the more it will slip through his fingers...just like sand.

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    The tighter he holds onto golf, the more it will slip through his fingers...just like sand.
    Or star systems.

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    ehehehe...wise you are. yes.

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    He was putting his whole family.......... kids included in danger with STDs and possibly HIV.
    Not really. Them porn s probably get tested 10x as much as the average groupie off the street.

    Irregardless, I don't really care. Tiger's kids, don't matter to me. His wife, doesn't matter to me. What Tiger does on his own time, including damaging his wife and kids, doesn't matter to me. The only thing Tiger possesses that I care one iota about is his golf game. A game that is bigger than his wife, his kids, or family values in general.

    A game that is currently destroyed because his wife thought that her being cheated on was more important than the sport that made her into a billionaire and captivated millions and millions of people every weekend for a decade plus. Elin's honor is not more important than golf, not even close, and her melodramatic over-reaction to finding out she was just just another trophy wife of a rich, famous, athletic man is one of the saddest things I've ever seen. Yeah Tiger made his own bed and he gets to sleep in it, but that doesn't mean Elin gets to burn the house down around him.

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    Both Tiger and ODB like it raw

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    Not really. Them porn s probably get tested 10x as much as the average groupie off the street.

    ............. the average person doesnt 300 different people in one year without protection. Also HIV has an incubation period.........what if that takes hold in between testing???

    This isnt Elins fault what so ever. Tiger ed up......and it ed his mind up, which in turn ed his game up completely. IMHO anyhow.

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    Not really. Them porn s probably get tested 10x as much as the average groupie off the street.

    Irregardless, I don't really care. Tiger's kids, don't matter to me. His wife, doesn't matter to me. What Tiger does on his own time, including damaging his wife and kids, doesn't matter to me. The only thing Tiger possesses that I care one iota about is his golf game. A game that is bigger than his wife, his kids, or family values in general.

    A game that is currently destroyed because his wife thought that her being cheated on was more important than the sport that made her into a billionaire and captivated millions and millions of people every weekend for a decade plus. Elin's honor is not more important than golf, not even close, and her melodramatic over-reaction to finding out she was just just another trophy wife of a rich, famous, athletic man is one of the saddest things I've ever seen. Yeah Tiger made his own bed and he gets to sleep in it, but that doesn't mean Elin gets to burn the house down around him.
    While I agree with this 100%, it's never gonna be how society thinks. People love to victimize the wives of athletes because they get cheated on, and it's in stupid. It's a great deal for them and everyone acts like being married to an unfaithful pro athlete is some hardship. Yeah maybe these women get cheated on, but 9 times out of 10 the wife of an athlete is a broad too stupid to ever get a job and stand on her own two feet. When you're a dumb who's most lucrative option in life is being a trophy wife, then having a husband who cheats is a small tradeoff for never having to worry about money or working while being able to buy whatever you want without thinking twice about it.

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    ............. the average person doesnt 300 different people in one year without protection. Also HIV has an incubation period.........what if that takes hold in between testing???

    This isnt Elins fault what so ever. Tiger ed up......and it ed his mind up, which in turn ed his game up completely. IMHO anyhow.
    completely agree. there's about a 1 month window that no test can possibly be used for HIV

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    Not really. Them porn s probably get tested 10x as much as the average groupie off the street.

    Irregardless, I don't really care. Tiger's kids, don't matter to me. His wife, doesn't matter to me. What Tiger does on his own time, including damaging his wife and kids, doesn't matter to me. The only thing Tiger possesses that I care one iota about is his golf game. A game that is bigger than his wife, his kids, or family values in general.

    A game that is currently destroyed because his wife thought that her being cheated on was more important than the sport that made her into a billionaire and captivated millions and millions of people every weekend for a decade plus. Elin's honor is not more important than golf, not even close, and her melodramatic over-reaction to finding out she was just just another trophy wife of a rich, famous, athletic man is one of the saddest things I've ever seen. Yeah Tiger made his own bed and he gets to sleep in it, but that doesn't mean Elin gets to burn the house down around him.


    Don't like women, huh?

    Personally I thought the image of her chasing his ass down the driveway with a ing 9 iron was pretty damn funny.

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    Don't like women, huh?
    Look, you (the informal 'you') ask me not to hoot at women joggers when I'm driving by, I'll keep my mouth shut.

    You ask me to vote for affirmative action in the workplace, and I'll pull the lever.

    You ask me to call the cops when I see my neighbor beating the out of his wife, and I'll dial 911.

    But I draw the line at feeling sorry for the billionaire-by-extension wife of a professional superstar, because he put his elsewhere.

  14. #114
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    Look, you (the informal 'you') ask me not to hoot at women joggers when I'm driving by, I'll keep my mouth shut.

    You ask me to vote for affirmative action in the workplace, and I'll pull the lever.

    You ask me to call the cops when I see my neighbor beating the out of his wife, and I'll dial 911.

    But I draw the line at feeling sorry for the billionaire-by-extension wife of a professional superstar, because he put his elsewhere.
    Theres a big difference between not feeling sorry for her (after all, she DID get payday) and THIS:

    I ing hate Elin.

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    I bet you could pick up a basketball and make a couple shots. I bet you could throw a nice spiral. I bet you can catch a baseball.

    But I bet if you tried every day for the next year, you'd have a of a hard time hitting a one inch wide ball into a three inch wide cup, 250 yards away, in 4 swings, with a three inch wide piece of metal.
    That's a skill, not a sport. It doesn't require physical exertion.

    Are video gamers athletes now? I'd like to see you beat the world's best Starcraft 2 players.

    Are surgeons athletes now?

    How about craftsmen?

    Carpenters?

    Golf is a not a sport, it's a hobby based on acquired skills.

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    Video games :

    cardiorespiratory - yes
    flexibility - yes
    muscular strength - no
    muscular stamina - yes
    agility - no
    balance - no
    motor coordination - yes
    power/speed - yes
    reaction time (reflexes) - YES



    looks like Video gamers are closer to being athletes than golfers are.

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    If you compare the minute muscular movements of two opposable thumbs, to the massive coordination of your entire body's muscles, (from your toes, to your quads, to your entire core, to your biceps, to your sternomastoids) you are a re .

    If you get a cardiorepiratory workout from playing video games, then you are obese and need to get on a treadmill. Or walk a golf course.
    Last edited by balli; 08-09-2010 at 03:26 PM.

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    If you compare the minute muscular movements of two opposable thumbs,
    Actually, PC gamers use all 10 fingers in rapid coordination and put on a display of flexibility.

    Console gamers use more than just two thumbs as well. Index both index fingers come into play!

    and the Nintendo Wii uses a lot more than that.

    to the massive coordination of your entire body's muscles, (from your toes,
    to your quads, to your entire core, to your biceps, to your sternomastoids) you are a re .
    Quite the overdramatic explanation of "swinging a club at a stationary golf ball"


    If you get a cardiorepiratory workout from playing video games, then you are obese and need to get on a treadmill. Or walk a golf course.

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    Quite the overdramatic explanation of "swinging a club at a stationary golf ball"
    In which MH freely admits he knows absolutely nothing about the amount of coordination and total body muscle use that goes into cleanly swinging a golf club at 120 miles per hour.

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    lol @ calling tiger woods an "athlete"

    even NASCAR drivers, who sit in a car, are closer to being athletes than golfers are. it ain't easy to go through extremely high temperatures in a car and lose 10 pounds in a single race.

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    So no one who's actually PLAYED golf is saying it's not a sport....got it.

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    In which MH freely admits he knows absolutely nothing about the amount of coordination and total body muscle use that goes into cleanly swinging a golf club at 120 miles per hour.
    In which balli realizes almost any profession could be called an athlete if those are the terms.

    Ever tried to understand what carpenters go through? Takes an incredible amount of skill and strength to chop, carve, and bend wood into the shapes you want.

    Carpenters = athletes

    It takes more strength and stamina to be a carpenter than it does to be a golfer. Not to mention skill. Takes years of practice to be a good carpenter.

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    @ Balli defending the honor of golf. Whoulda thought it?

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    @ Balli defending the honor of golf. Whoulda thought it?
    I can't help it that golf deserves it. I don't play regularly any more because it's bourgeois and a big schlep. But I spent enough time in Nike (y'know the sports company, deniers) golf camps as a kid to have profound respect. Especially for professional level golf.

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    So no one who's actually PLAYED golf is saying it's not a sport....got it.
    so only those who actually LIKE golf are saying it's a sport.....got it

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