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    You can't possibly expect that what essentially amounts to a hunch on your part, be considered the evidence everyone here is asking for...
    Hey, we invaded and occupied a Muslim country, killing tens of thousands of them on a hunch.

    Why should this be any different? When it comes to Muslims, going with your gut trumps the principals on which this country was founded.

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    Ask a victim of 9-11.
    Which one?

    Several of them approve of the mosque's construction.

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    Ask a victim of 9-11.
    Define victim.

    I'm American. I feel like we were all victims.

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    On the Islamophobic meme. If it was fear that drove opposition, don't you believe there'd be a call to close all mosques, everywhere? A radicalized mosque at Ground Zero is no less dangerous than one in Seattle.

    That's not the issue but, supporters have done a grand job of making it so.

    It's not Islamophobia.
    that's a cop out. Most people realize they can't demand mosques be shut down everywhere in America. Islamophobia doesn't mean stupidity.

    Obviously, this sensitivity schtick provides a great excuse for people to act on their fear of the muslim culture, and until people protesting can bring some kind of rational explanation for their demands, it will continue to look like fear is the motive behind them.

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    that's a cop out. Most people realize they can't demand mosques be shut down everywhere in America. Islamophobia doesn't mean stupidity.

    Obviously, this sensitivity schtick provides a great excuse for people to act on their fear of the muslim culture, and until people protesting can bring some kind of rational explanation for their demands, it will continue to look like fear is the motive behind them.
    Schtick?

    You accuse the victim's families of engaging in schtick?

    If it were fear, the Ground Zero mosque wouldn't be the only target of opposition. You'd see opposition to the building of a new mosque anywhere and protests against existing mosques believed to be radicalized.

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    Define victim.

    I'm American. I feel like we were all victims.
    And, as of this week 70% believe the mosque shouldn't be built.

    That's more of a consensus than Algore had on Global War...er, Climate Change.

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    And, as of this week 70% believe the mosque shouldn't be built.

    In your opinion, how far away from Ground Zero is a good buffer zone of sensitivity?

    Please give an exact distance.

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    so what yoni. like chump said, look what happened the last time a knuckledragger acted on his gut.

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    Schtick?

    You accuse the victim's families of engaging in schtick?
    I'm not talking about the victim's families. I'm talking about every other stone faced hypocrite using their ordeal to further an agenda of their own.

    If it were fear, the Ground Zero mosque wouldn't be the only target of opposition. You'd see opposition to the building of a new mosque anywhere and protests against existing mosques believed to be radicalized.
    I already answered this.

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    Okay, to answer; as far away as those who lost loved ones at Ground Zero would like.

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    I'm not talking about the victim's families. I'm talking about every other stone faced hypocrite using their ordeal to further an agenda of their own.
    Do the victim's families have a legitimate argument?

    I already answered this.
    It wasn't a question.

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    Okay, to answer; as far away as those who lost loved ones at Ground Zero would like.
    Completely and utterly ridiculous statement

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    Schtick?

    You accuse the victim's families of engaging in schtick?

    If it were fear, the Ground Zero mosque wouldn't be the only target of opposition. You'd see opposition to the building of a new mosque anywhere and protests against existing mosques believed to be radicalized.
    Google "Tennessee mosque" and get back to me.

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    Okay, to answer; as far away as those who lost loved ones at Ground Zero would like.
    What about those who lost loved ones and want the mosque to be built near ground zero?

    Where is your compassion for and solidarity with them?

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    Do the victim's families have a legitimate argument?
    No, they don't, but I do think they are being sincere, although misguided, about their grievance, unlike most of the people involved in this. The people responsible for the Mosque seem to have nothing to do with the people responsible for 9/11. So the victim's families grievances are directed at the wrong people.


    It wasn't a question.
    Fine, I already talked about this. Happy?

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    Does anyone else think it's insulting to Muslims to insinuate that a large number of them will go bat crazy and go on marauding, murderous rampages if a book is burned?

    Likewise, isn't thinking that a Muslim will snap and have a phychotic episode because they've seen their invisible god in cartoon form equally insulting?

    Why do you guys think all Muslims are bat crazy religious zealots?

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    Why do you guys think all Muslims are bat crazy religious zealots?
    go ahead and show me who's been saying this? or even insinuating this.

    it really is laughable that you think this bull is helping you make a point, specially since you've been insinuating this very thing since the beginning.

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    Why do you guys think all Muslims are bat crazy religious zealots?
    I don't. Why do you?

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    Does anyone else think it's insulting to Muslims to insinuate that a large number of them will go bat crazy and go on marauding, murderous rampages if a book is burned?

    Likewise, isn't thinking that a Muslim will snap and have a phychotic episode because they've seen their invisible god in cartoon form equally insulting?

    Why do you guys think all Muslims are bat crazy religious zealots?
    What do you think they will do, DarrinS?

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    I say burn the Koran and ask those who are upset to be more tolerant.

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    I don't. Why do you?
    Because they go bat over burned Korans and images of Mohammed?

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    Okay, to answer; as far away as those who lost loved ones at Ground Zero would like.
    are all those who lost loved ones at Ground Zero united in their determination of how far away is far enough?

    I wasn't aware.....

    Do they have a Yahoo Groups account? I'd like to get in on it.

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    go ahead and show me who's been saying this? or even insinuating this.

    it really is laughable that you think this bull is helping you make a point, specially since you've been insinuating this very thing since the beginning.

    But, you guys seem to think Muslims have only a precarious grip on reality and will suddently SNAP the moment they see a cartoon of <name redacted, PBUH>. That's very insulting. Muslims are very rational people.

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    What do you think they will do, DarrinS?

    Why would this endanger our troops?

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    Because they go bat over burned Korans and images of Mohammed?
    Really, that's what they all do?

    link?

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