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    The party needs to wake up and see what's happening. The GOP had lost its way and become not much more than Democrat Lite. The party needs to remember what Ronald Reagan said - NO pale pastels. The conservatives are exerting their will at the ballot box, and the GOP would do well to listen!
    The party will try to use them and eventually take a dump against anybody that doesn't align with party interests. Ultimately, the more popular they get the more damage they do to the GOP, which ultimately only favors the democrats...

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    Here's the difference between liberals and conservatives - conservatives are sick of the RINOs and want candidates who will stand up and fight for conservative ideas. That is why the Tea Party candidates are doing pretty good so far. Liberals, on the other hand, continue to elect the same old corrupt, career politicians over and over and over... i.e. Charlie Rangel.

    And why is it that no one ever scolds the democrats for having candidates that are too liberal? Why aren't they told to field candidates who are more moderate? This country is still a center/right country, yet conservatives are always told they need to move more to the center; yet the dems have flaming liberals like Pelosi, Waxman, Kennedy, and Boxer and no one says they need to move toward the center. Why is that?
    Here's the prob: conservatives get told to move to the center... and then don't. Lefties move to the right even while their base yells at them not to.

    But I guess that the liberals are just so radical... that's why they passed that public option healthcare bill.

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    lol what evidence supports a six day creation other than where she got the idea to begin with?
    The problem is that many people believe the poor translations of the Chaldean language done in the 17th century to English.

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    Mocking O'Donnell's religious beliefs. Is that really all y'all got? Pitiful.
    Well... I mock truthers...

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    Mocking O'Donnell's religious beliefs. Is that really all y'all got? Pitiful.
    I went to her website to see her platform.

    All it said was give money.

    I guess that's a platform of sorts.

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    OK, I checked out O'Donnell's bio.

    I have to say lol.

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    The problem is that many people believe the poor translations of the Chaldean language done in the 17th century to English.
    huh? Are you referring to the King James version as being a poor translation?

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    Mocking O'Donnell's religious beliefs. Is that really all y'all got? Pitiful.
    Hey, it doesn't say anywhere that mocking religious beliefs is inherently poor taste. After all, it's considered perfectly fine taste to mock the religious beliefs of neo-nazis.

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    LOL... I was reading this lady was on the 'voting for Obama is Anti-American' bandwagon back in '08... I wonder if she's a birther like Crookskanks?

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    huh? Are you referring to the King James version as being a poor translation?
    Absolutely, and translations following it only modernize the language but keep the false wording.

    I would say trying to discount a politician for believing poorly translated words is worse than discounting a politician for believing in AGW. At least ones views on religion cannot have the same impact in law as the views of one who believes false science.

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    Well...

    95.7% of the vote in, Ayotte has 38.2% and Lamontagne has 37.1%. Think a recount will be asked for?

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    I predict Palin's candidate, Ayotte,
    Good call. Sweet baby is on a roll.

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    Disturbing.

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    OK, I checked out O'Donnell's bio.

    I have to say lol.
    She's been on TV a lot. That's one thing she's pretty good at. Semi-frequent guest on Maher's show time was, I've heard.

    What's his take on her?

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    @SnakeBoy:

    That's ok. Baby says let it slide.

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    Absolutely, and translations following it only modernize the language but keep the false wording.
    so what is the correct translation and why hasn't God gotten it out to the masses which would include the ignorant politicians?


    At least ones views on religion cannot have the same impact in law as the views of one who believes false science.
    Eh. Abortion and gay rights activists will probably disagree with you.

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    so what is the correct translation and why hasn't God gotten it out to the masses which would include the ignorant politicians?
    This is a different topics, so this will be my only post here on the matter. Want more, start a new thread.

    In the creation story, the Chaldean word used that was translated to "create(d)" actually means formed. In other words, changed what was already there. The word translated to "day," is a word used in various ways. It comes from a root meaning of "warm." For all we know, and it would make scientific sense to me, each "day" would be an interglacial period of time on earth. One way it is used is as a "cycle." It is used also as a period of a day as we think of it, but that is not it's only usage. It does not need to be a specific time frame. When we get to the part of creating man, Adam is from a word that means mankind (plural) and Eve means life-bringer. When we get to the story of Adam, Eve, Cain, and Able... the words for Adam and Eve are now not the same Chaldean word, and are specific names. The word used for Heaven has various meanings, and probably meant the simplest form... Sky.

    So many things in the translation that are probably wrong. With our understanding of science, and usage of words. When we eliminate some forms of the words that are scientifically wrong, other ancient usages are still there that do not defy our understanding of science.
    Eh. Abortion and gay rights activists will probably disagree with you.
    Thing is, morality of life doesn't have to come from the Bible. I simply fail to comprehend how so many people can be so cavalier about abortion. It's simple an abomination. I wonder if such people have any good in them at all.

    One does not have to be Christian to believe abortion is murder.

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    That's ok. Baby says let it slide.


    Good memory.

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    Scott Brown will be outed as "RINO" soon enough, and will lose in the next primary election for his seat to a 'true conservative' who will go on to win 25% of the general election vote in Mass. Ditto for Christie in NJ.

    One would think that a certain pragmatism would prevail in this election for some on the right as it relates to winning elections in center-left states.

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    She's been on TV a lot. That's one thing she's pretty good at.
    I haven't seen her interviews but I saw a liberal leaning guest (forgot his name) on Morning Joe make the case that Dems shouldn't write her off for that very reason.

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    Thing is, morality of life doesn't have to come from the Bible. I simply fail to comprehend how so many people can be so cavalier about abortion. It's simple an abomination. I wonder if such people have any good in them at all.

    One does not have to be Christian to believe abortion is murder.
    I know this is off-topic for the off-topic post, but I think my views on abortion have shifted slightly over time. I believe that abortion after the first trimester is immoral, except for "life of the mother at risk" complications. I'm still not sure about the first trimester.

    I'm LEGALLY for disallowing abortions after the first trimster, but I don't think I would ever be for outlawing abortion completely. I think that would just drive the abortion business undergrounds, with its own set of difficulties and unintended consequences.

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    Mocking O'Donnell's religious beliefs. Is that really all y'all got? Pitiful.
    One would think a majority would object to the state promoting jacking off to teenagers as a waste of public funds. Oh well, this matter excites prurient interest and deflects attention from the matter of the federal government's fiscal cluster. Please, continue highlighting the issues that really matter.

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    This is a different topics, so this will be my only post here on the matter. Want more, start a new thread.

    In the creation story, the Chaldean word used that was translated to "create(d)" actually means formed. In other words, changed what was already there. The word translated to "day," is a word used in various ways. It comes from a root meaning of "warm." For all we know, and it would make scientific sense to me, each "day" would be an interglacial period of time on earth. One way it is used is as a "cycle." It is used also as a period of a day as we think of it, but that is not it's only usage. It does not need to be a specific time frame. When we get to the part of creating man, Adam is from a word that means mankind (plural) and Eve means life-bringer. When we get to the story of Adam, Eve, Cain, and Able... the words for Adam and Eve are now not the same Chaldean word, and are specific names. The word used for Heaven has various meanings, and probably meant the simplest form... Sky.

    So many things in the translation that are probably wrong. With our understanding of science, and usage of words. When we eliminate some forms of the words that are scientifically wrong, other ancient usages are still there that do not defy our understanding of science.
    I didn't realize Moses was Chaldean (he's not), but even so, your one post failed to answer my question(s).

    Unfortunate.

    Thing is, morality of life doesn't have to come from the Bible. I simply fail to comprehend how so many people can be so cavalier about abortion. It's simple an abomination. I wonder if such people have any good in them at all.

    One does not have to be Christian to believe abortion is murder.
    That is not the point of my answer to your original statement regarding religion and law.

    Even so, what is morally wrong about gay marriage?

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    "deflects attention from the matter of the federal government's fiscal cluster"

    your attention is deflected from the matter of the real government problem: it's owned by the corps, it's a proxy for the corps, the same corps that finance the VRWC to deflect their culpability onto the govt.

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    "deflects attention from the matter of the federal government's fiscal cluster"

    your attention is deflected from the matter of the real government problem: it's owned by the corps, it's a proxy for the corps, the same corps that finance the VRWC to deflect their culpability onto the govt.

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