View Poll Results: What should the Govt. do about this issue?

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  1. #126
    Ain't over 'till its over MaNuMaNiAc's Avatar
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    It still happens.

    I tell you, if such an inappropriate thing happened to me, I might beat someone to a pulp. Not the first time, but the second time after reporting an unprovable action happened again.

    You see, just a mention or talk doesn't justify sexual harassment. Sexual harassment actually required power of one over another, or continued/repeated overt sexual remarks that are unwelcomed.

    In a he-said-she-said situation, how do you prove anything?

    It causes bad moral.

    Like I said, when the military is ready for men and women sharing billets and showers, then it's ready for gays to openly serve too.
    You would beat someone to a pulp for looking at you?

    so not only a you complete ing idiot with regards to everything you spout your mouth off about, you're also a violent piece of ?

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    Bush started a questionable costly war in Iraq and may have been in on a 9/11 inside job. Bush was a dumbass but at least he got some done.
    There have been some dumb posts today, but I think you may have the gotten the dumbest one in just in time.

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    There have been some dumb posts today, but I think you may have the gotten the dumbest one in just in time.
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    Obama and his minions are pathetic and useless. They can't even get this done. They can't make it where gay people can serve openly in the military. Bush started a questionable costly war in Iraq and may have been in on a 9/11 inside job. Bush was a dumbass but at least he got some done. And people don't give a if all of these problems are because of Bush. That excuse is old and used up. Obama is in charge now. He needs to step up to the plate and at least attempt to fix some of this . Obama barely tries to get done. If he can't get something done quickly, he gives up and blames it on Bush.
    everyone should be qualified for the army as long as he/she loves this country. I'd rather see gays/lesbos serving in the army than the army hire mercenaries to wear US soldier uniforms. IMHO joining the army is often considered by most immigrants as a shortcut to acquire the US citizenship, something they've always been drooling over day after night.

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    Obama and his minions are pathetic and useless. They can't even get this done. They can't make it where gay people can serve openly in the military. Bush started a questionable costly war in Iraq and may have been in on a 9/11 inside job. Bush was a dumbass but at least he got some done. And people don't give a if all of these problems are because of Bush. That excuse is old and used up. Obama is in charge now. He needs to step up to the plate and at least attempt to fix some of this . Obama barely tries to get done. If he can't get something done quickly, he gives up and blames it on Bush.
    don't forget to wash your uniform, mr.birther.

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    even for the immigrants who've already acquired citizenships their loyalty to this country should still be highly questionable. an army full of mercenaries will beat no enemy no matter what weapons they're armed with.

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    In any event, according to that federal court you decided had no authority - it IS time for gays to serve openly due to some do ent called the cons ution.

    Even if your bull was legit, somehow setting up separate showers is harder than securing equality. Amazing.
    Still, even if that court has the right to rule on military law, which I think they don't, it simply places the law back to gays not being able to serve. the ruling came down to a first amendment issue. Not weather or not the military can decide who can and cannot serve.

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    Yes, it is me showing my stupidity in this thread.
    When you accuse me of things I know better of, then yes. You might fool those who don't know me, but I know better you ing idiot.

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    I think it's less. You really can't count lesbian or bisexual women as gay. Most eventually get in line and got back to the other side.
    I refuse to believe you actually think this.

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    It still happens.

    I tell you, if such an inappropriate thing happened to me, I might beat someone to a pulp. Not the first time, but the second time after reporting an unprovable action happened again.

    You see, just a mention or talk doesn't justify sexual harassment. Sexual harassment actually required power of one over another, or continued/repeated overt sexual remarks that are unwelcomed.

    In a he-said-she-said situation, how do you prove anything?

    It causes bad moral.

    Like I said, when the military is ready for men and women sharing billets and showers, then it's ready for gays to openly serve too.
    Teh gays is scary!!

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    Should gay kids be allowed to take 7th grade gym class?
    That's an entirely different situation. 7th grade boys are tough enough to handle a gay guy seeing their weiner. Marines, Navy Seals, Green Berets, etc. are pretty sensitive and may not be able to do there jobs if a gay guy saw their weiner. Which threatens the security of the United States of America!

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    So if you think Obama sucks as president, you are a birther? Do you have proof that I am birther? If you can do that, I will give you a dollar. Sadly, you will not get that dollar because I have never said that Obama was not born in America. He's shown his birth certificate before and has said that he was born in America so he ain't lying.

    And you're honestly going to tell me that Obama is getting stuff done as president? What great things has he accomplished as president? How's the economy doing? What about unemployment. What about the division and polarization going on in America? What's he doing about that stuff?

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    Credit properly goes to Bill Clinton for this enlightened, progressive idea, before this thread becomes yet another all-purpose backyard pinyata.

    That is all.

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    And you're honestly going to tell me that Obama is getting stuff done as president? What great things has he accomplished as president? How's the economy doing? What about unemployment. What about the division and polarization going on in America? What's he doing about that stuff?
    It's not Obama's fault that people have become so impatient for improvement because under Bush was so ing awful. Ending combat operations is one of the toughest things ANY President can do, and he's done that in Iraq. That's at least one accomplishment that any sane person can recognize as an accomplishment, whether or not they agree we should have wasted time/lives there.

    Obama can do nothing about the polarization, it's self-inflicted and from what I can see it's pleasurable to the people that swim in it and make money off of it. It's pleasurable to be angry and stop progress of ANY kind because it makes them feel like they are being heard. Obama's mistake was buying into his own promise that people would listen to him and cooperate because the country was in such a ty situation (and still is)...and the GOP has made him pay through stalled legislation and proxy grassroot movements organized as loosely as the Al Qaeda franchises they were ting themselves over 4 years before - the same Al Qaeda that have not dissappeared since then and only gotten stronger with all the time OUR government spends ing around in a 24/7 365 political campaign and making issues out of Muslim conspiracies.

    You can't work with political opposition, not consistently enough to fix all that is wrong with the country. Right now, it's just not possible for anyone when the GOP minority party will always want to be the loudest and the Dem majority is full of pussies. He's trying to fix things, but the clock started with 1 second left and he's been out of time since the start.

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    That's an entirely different situation. 7th grade boys are tough enough to handle a gay guy seeing their weiner. Marines, Navy Seals, Green Berets, etc. are pretty sensitive and may not be able to do there jobs if a gay guy saw their weiner. Which threatens the security of the United States of America!
    They would be afraid of friendly fire?

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    lol attaching an immigration rider blocks this lol gays

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    "Republicans constantly claim to be the party that defends the Cons ution. We have no legitimate right to that claim until we get right on gay rights."

    -- GOP strategist Mark McKinnon, writing for the Daily Beast in the wake of yesterday's successful effort by Senate Republicans to block repeal of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell."

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    Many of you are saying the republicans blocked this bill because they're against the repeal of DADT - but that isn't the truth. Republicans blocked it because the democrats refused to extend the debate. Dems tried to play games - and they lost; and now they're blaming it on the republicans.
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    WASHINGTON (AP) — Maine Republican Sen. Susan Collins says she'll vote against a bill that would allow gays to serve openly in the military unless Democrats agree to extend debate so that her colleagues can weigh in on other issues.

    Collins' position is likely the last nail in the coffin for the Democratic proposal, which would have repealed the 17-year-old law known as "don't ask, don't tell."

    A moderate Republican who supports changing the law, Collins was seen as the crucial 60th vote needed to override GOP objections and advance it. The provision was attached to a broader defense bill that authorizes $726 in military spending.

    Democrats plan to allow Republicans to offer only one amendment on the bill to address their concern about the gay rights' provision.

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    Many of you are saying the republicans blocked this bill because they're against the repeal of DADT - but that isn't the truth. Republicans blocked it because the democrats refused to extend the debate. Dems tried to play games - and they lost; and now they're blaming it on the republicans.
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    WASHINGTON (AP) — Maine Republican Sen. Susan Collins says she'll vote against a bill that would allow gays to serve openly in the military unless Democrats agree to extend debate so that her colleagues can weigh in on other issues.

    Collins' position is likely the last nail in the coffin for the Democratic proposal, which would have repealed the 17-year-old law known as "don't ask, don't tell."

    A moderate Republican who supports changing the law, Collins was seen as the crucial 60th vote needed to override GOP objections and advance it. The provision was attached to a broader defense bill that authorizes $726 in military spending.

    Democrats plan to allow Republicans to offer only one amendment on the bill to address their concern about the gay rights' provision.
    thanks for telling us she'll vote against it cuz she wants to "weigh in on other issues".

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    My standard is gays can openly serve when men and women share the same shower facilities at the same time.
    Except that gay males and straight males are ALREADY integrated, whereas females and males are obviously not.

    Also, there is much more separation in our society between male/female than there is gay/straight. (Hormones, for one thing...)

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    No, they can then make remarks they wouldn't otherwise make, making others feel rather uncomfortable.
    So then punish them for unprofessional conduct, right? Shouldn't we police their ACTIONS rather than their thoughts?

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    In a he-said-she-said situation, how do you prove anything?
    They manage to do it all the time with male/female situations, by looking at the evidence, talking to coworkers, etc etc. MEO is there for a reason.

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    thanks for telling us she'll vote against it cuz she wants to "weigh in on other issues".
    she crossed back over the aisle cause the Dems tried to tack n the DREAM Act as a rider

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    The Military is not a Democracy, the judgment of Command Military Officers should be all that matters in the debate. Let them hash it out and arrive at a solution; Civilian leaders and the general population have no direct stake in the game.

    Our Nation fields troops to break and kill people with the expectation they'll do it with the least amount of harm to themselves and innocent bystanders while achieving an successful military objective. I say the Commanders should be left free to do that and not have to engage in social debates over matters that don't matter in the context of battle.

    Where's that answer on the survey?

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    The Military is not a Democracy, the judgment of Command Military Officers should be all that matters in the debate. Let them hash it out and arrive at a solution; Civilian leaders and the general population have no direct stake in the game.
    Bull .

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